Flint of Steel (Steve vs. Snyderman) (3-7-0, GRACE!)

[HonestlyBored24]

Da Roolz
Speed is equalized.
Both are in-character, and start 5 meters away.
The battle takes place in the area where Snyderman and The Bat fought.
Steve has all his equipment up to 7-C, and Theatrical Cut Snyderman is being used.
This is playing during the battle.

Da Vouts
“I am building rocks and sh_t and playing f_cking minecraft!”: 3 (@AppleMaker, @noninho, @Rogue_Forge)

Scales to this and this; 0.014 Tons of TNT, up to 15.14 Kilotons of TNT with equipment​

Scales to this and this; > 57.68 Metric Tons, up to 231.6 Metric Tons with equipment​

please stop aura farming and save my life: 7 (@Keeweed, @Arkansalter2, @koopa3144, @Zyurtunder13, @Baken384, @EmbalmerMaster9000, @JustANormalLemon)

Scales to this; 56.49 Kilotons of TNT​

Scales to this; 270 Metric Tons​

Da Fakts
Snyderman has an overall 3.73x advantage in Attack Potency.
Snyderman has an overall 1.17x advantage in Lifting Strength.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Guy who lost to John EBG vs guy who got stomped by John EBG. Lmfao.
Anyways following.

 

[AppleMaker]

What is in character for Steve?

 

[HonestlyBored24]

What is in character for Steve?

Using his weapons to hit Superman and maybe drinking some of his potions to prepare for battle.

 

[Keeweed]

I imagine if they have potions they will use them since the whole reason you don’t use them much in game is due to their clunky use mechanics. Outside of game way more simple. Though Steve doesn’t resist the heat of Superman’s lasers so he can easily cut Steve apart like butter if he goes for it. Plus he has the ap and lifting strength to snap Steve’s neck

 

[Keeweed]

Steve’s resurrect is for all intents and purposes not combat applicable so easy win for Superman due to having every physical advantage

 

[Arkansalter2]

What is in character for Steve?

Since this is a player, they don't have a modus operandi of how they "work."
With that said, we assume the most skilled and strongest players as per SBA and Mr. Bambu's word.
Most often than not, the strongest players go for crystal PVP and that pro pvp type of stuff.

 

[Keeweed]

Isn’t it also often based too how the game is designed, like what the game intents for combat, in which case the game absolutely never intents for you to use crystals in PvP at all and actually kills your instantly if you don’t exploit how the game handles explosion damage

 

[Arkansalter2]

Isn’t it also often based too how the game is designed, like what the game intents for combat, in which case the game absolutely never intents for you to use crystals in PvP at all and actually kills your instantly if you don’t exploit how the game handles explosion damage

The strongest players know how to get around the crystal pvp and the blow yourself up stuff.

 

[HonestlyBored24]

Plus he has the ap and lifting strength to snap Steve’s neck

tell that to steve’s snapped neck

 

[AppleMaker]

IMO Steve High-extreme diffs cuz of totem of undying + he can use ender pearls and fishing rod to deal with Snyderman if he tries to fly

 

[Arkansalter2]

Hmm.. this can go either way. Of course, steve can do stuff like this:

And survive stuff like this.
But a singular good hit by Supes will send steve reeling so steve will have to respect his distance.

 

[AppleMaker]

IMO Steve High-extreme diffs cuz of totem of undying + he can use ender pearls and fishing rod to deal with Snyderman if he tries to fly

Basically I'm voting for Steve FRA

 

[Arkansalter2]

I'm not casting a vote for right now. This can really go either way. I'm leaning towards supes because of the AP gap.

 

[koopa3144]

Gonna note that in official animations Steve and the other player characters fight very traditionally so I'm not 100% sure if Steve is gonna be doing any crazy player created PvP moves here.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Gonna note that in official animations Steve and the other player characters fight very traditionally so I'm not 100% sure if Steve is gonna be doing any crazy player created PvP moves here.

I figured one would say that. However, they used the pvp scenarios in my thread which nobody complained over.
Plus as per SBA, we assume the most skilled version of a player character, which is including steve.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Alright. I'm going with Supes. Here are my reasons.
Mace PVP? Terrible idea. Supes will beat him the f*** up the moment Steve gets close for that.
Crystal PVP? Viable maybe. Sure, the explosions may be able to harm supes a little bit but remember.. he no sold said 56 KT feat. The explosion is like 45 KT at best according to the previous thread in between John EBG and Steve.
Withers? It's possible. They'll annoy supes a lot and that may or may not trigger AD but I'll lean towards likely because most of the DOT that Steve has would probably get thugged through.
The longer steve fights, the more resources he burns through. He would have to repeatedly eat god apples as he's getting his goddamn ass kicked so that'll cover most expenses.
Overall, all Supes has to do is constantly attack him with H2H and trying to pummel Steve. That's a 3.7x AP gap.
Supes, high diff. Steve's gapples would make him stupidly hard to kill and supes would actually have to start trying to actually kill him.

 

[koopa3144]

I figured one would say that. However, they used the pvp scenarios in my thread which nobody complained over.

I feel like peeps just tend to forget in VS threads that the MC player characters aren't just stand-ins for the player and have an actual fighting style (which is just basic MC combat stuff) in canon.

 

[Arkansalter2]

I feel like peeps just tend to forget in VS threads that the MC player characters aren't just stand-ins for the player and have an actual fighting style (which is just basic MC combat stuff) in canon.

Steve is a player character so people do show the most skilled things that said player can do, as with other threads with player characters.

 

[Keeweed]

The strongest players know how to get around the crystal pvp and the blow yourself up stuff.

Yes and those are through gameplay mechanics.

 

[Keeweed]

The animations show Steve will go for basic stabs and the game would say you use potions when you have them. However Superman just grabs him and it’s completely over from there.

 

[AppleMaker]

Wait, I remembered one more thing about Steve. Netherite armor iirc gives him a heat resistance, so it would make Supes lasers completely useless, also Steve could possibly deflect Supes attacks with shield and as I said before - catch him with a fishing rod or tp to him with ender pearls if Super tries to fly to recover

 

[Keeweed]

Superman’s laser is dozens of times hotter than Steve’s heat resistance and he scales above creatures that break Steve’s guard in one hit (Warden’s)

 

[Keeweed]

The fishing rod won’t work, Superman wants to be in melee range and has vastly higher lifting strength

 

[koopa3144]

Netherite armor iirc gives him a heat resistance, so it would make Supes lasers completely useless

Supermans heat vison is 5,500° while Steve's Netherite armor resistance is 1,200 C from lava.

catch him with a fishing rod or tp to him with ender pearls if Super fly to recover

The Fishing rod isn't gonna be able to pull Superman due to the LS difference.

 

[AppleMaker]

The fishing rod won’t work, Superman wants to be in melee range and has vastly higher lifting strength

Even better, Steve could just outlast him due to totem of undying, god apples and etc. He would need to spam his melee attacks, consume few godapples, die and be resurrected by his totem of undying, possibly he could even deflect some of supes hits with a shield after losing his totem of undying

 

[AppleMaker]

The Fishing rod isn't gonna be able to pull Superman due to the LS difference.

1,17x isn't that high gap, it still would pull him back a little bit. Also as Keeweed mentioned before - Supes will go for cqc

 

[Keeweed]

Even better, Steve could just outlast him due to totem of undying, god apples and etc. He would need to spam his melee attacks, consume few godapples, die and be resurrected by his totem of undying, possibly he could even deflect some of supes hits with a shield after losing his totem of undying

By standard battle assumption he only gets one totem. Also Superman can just hold Steve still and break his neck for an instant kill.

 

[Keeweed]

1,17x isn't that high gap, it still would pull him back a little bit. Also as Keeweed mentioned before - Supes will go for cqc

That’s only with pistons. Steve is class 100 to Superman’s Class K

 

[koopa3144]

Steve could just outlast him due to totem of undying, god apples and etc. He would need to spam his melee attacks, consume few godapples, die and be resurrected by his totem of undying,

Golden Apples take time to consume, and Steve would need to swap a new totem of undying into his hand after one breaks. Superman can pretty easily kill Steve in those moments of vulnerability.

 

[Keeweed]

Actually forgot Steve has the regeneration for snapped necks, but it’s stamina based and Steve quickly gets tried from healing severe injuries so Superman would just need to do it like three times lol

 

[AppleMaker]

By standard battle assumption he only gets one totem.

That would be enough, assuming he have a shield and some godapples as well

Also Superman can just hold Steve still and break his neck for an instant kill.

I'm not sure that would work, since Steve don't have a neck

 

[Keeweed]

Steve absolutely has a neck it’s just really small, he can’t spin his head around 360. Also, again, Superman scales above Steve’s guard both lifting and ap wise

 

[Nonynho]

Laser is not going to do much against Steve, Netherite Armor+ potions.

Also, there are enchantments in the play here, so the damage may vary from the statistics presented in OP due to like Sharpness V and Protection V (and thorns) for starters

Also, not very improbable that in the standard equipment there are the materials for him to just put some blocks that make Supes CQC harder to perform while creating a scenario that favors Steve's parkour, or Summoning the Wither, whose aggro definitely isn't just on Steve, and could help out to, for example, consume non-splash potions and Notch/golden apples

Voting Steve

 

[Keeweed]

“Laser is not going to do much against Steve, Netherite Armor+ potions.”
Neither of those have high enough heat resistance, Superman’s lasers are thousands of degrees hotter and cut through ships with that level of resistance like butter.

 

[Keeweed]

And he is like a dozen times stronger than Steve, a single grab and he’s done. (Again the equipment lifting strength is only with pistons)

 

[Keeweed]

The trailers show Steve doesn’t summon iron golems or withers in combat either and if he did summon something it would obviously be a golem rather than a boss that’ll try and kill him too. Like the game intents

 

[Keeweed]

Also for thorns, Superman can heal himself. Plus if Steve does stuff to stall to heal he’ll be quickly out paced by superman’s evolution. He has to win the fight nigh immediately or get blasted past due to that and continuous sunlight

 

[AppleMaker]

The trailers show Steve doesn’t summon iron golems or withers in combat either and if he did summon something it would obviously be a golem rather than a boss that’ll try and kill him too. Like the game intents

That still would be useful, Golems would just attack Supes and make him go down faster than if Steve was doing it alone, the problem I have with a summoning strategy - it would take some time to place blocks.

 

[Keeweed]

Iron golems downscale from peak Steve who already is super far below Superman and the gap is getting bigger and bigger as the fight goes on. Ignoring that the more difficulty Superman faces the faster he grows as shown by how ridiculously fast zod grew to catch up with Superman. The time Steve takes to build them is the time Superman has already past their usefulness in strength