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Time to see if Goku can stand up to skillslop - Goku vs Garou equal stats

Rutæhh

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The Hope of the Universe vs The Human Monster​





I want to have this as fair as possible for both participants. Please also try and not be toxic.
Keys:
Parallel Timeline
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Ultra Instinct -Sign- (Third Awakening) - Perfected Ultra Instinct

Conditions:
SBA
Location: World of Void with TOP rules (so no killing, win via ring out and no flying) and participants are at the edges of the arena.
Equal Stats
No nuclear fission, Radiation, Fear hax, AD and Power Copying for Garou
Both participants are fully rested when they fight and Goku starts in UIO3

The winner gets an all you can eat buffet and the glory to fight a Re:zero skillslop character
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Votes:
Goku restores Hope to the universe:
Garou becomes Absolute Evil:
Reid oneshots both (Incon):​
 
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I would like to say that Goku has better senses and ways to gain info from Garou (via Ki Radar, Air Movement, Hostility sensing [though im pretty sure garou can do that as well] and just his general saiyan biology) and equal Analytical Prediction to garou with the Hit feat.

also his stealth mastery might be cause garou trouble as well
 
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why are you using the most skilled form of Goku but not the most skilled form of Garou
 
Phoenks said:
why are you using the most skilled form of Goku but not the most skilled form of Garou
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cuz of the radiation and stuff. goku gets cooked alive by nuclear fission


would dbz goku be better?
 
done

garou power mimcry and AD might cause goku trouble lowkey but Goku could try making up new moves and plans to get a ring out
 
I mean tbh if you just want skill debate you'd have to make the match a bit more specific.

If you still allow other powers Garou has, he just ends up winning through AD and copying. Goku will never be able to do anything that Garou can't also do.
 
Phoenks said:
I mean tbh if you just want skill debate you'd have to make the match a bit more specific.

If you still allow other powers Garou has, he just ends up winning through AD and copying. Goku will never be able to do anything that Garou can't also do.
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ok ill restrict that as well

is Garou's copying supernatural in nature or just a juiced up version of his previous stuff
 
in terms of pure martial art versatility Garou has better stuff like Fist of Biting Fangs, Killing Dragons and Heart Liberation to amp himself. i dont think Goku would be overwhelmed by such since he makes it a point to study his opponents habits to find a way around them or maybe throw a ki blast if that doesnt get reflected
 
Rutæhh said:
maybe throw a ki blast if that doesnt get reflected
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He can deflect energy type attacks.

Garou is capable of moving in air, so it'd be harder for him to fall compared to Goku who can't fly.

Is Goku's usage of UI limited? since that version has a time limit.
 
Rutæhh said:
in terms of pure martial art versatility Garou has better stuff like Fist of Biting Fangs, Killing Dragons and Heart Liberation to amp himself. i dont think Goku would be overwhelmed by such since he makes it a point to study his opponents habits to find a way around them or maybe throw a ki blast if that doesnt get reflected
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goku actually just gets killed by a graze by the way. he lacks resistance to vibrations.
 
MrTayman616 said:
He can deflect energy type attacks.

Garou is capable of moving in air, so it'd be harder for him to fall compared to Goku who can't fly.

Is Goku's usage of UI limited? since that version has a time limit.
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yeah his usage is limited to the transformation and omen and it can just turn off randomly. goku could always use IT to teleport back in and even use it as a way to kick him out like he did with jiren
 
Goku skill is one of the most overrated things in fiction his entire verse at this point is mostly stats based rather then some Jesus level skill people like garou are far beyond him and would trash him in a skill contest
 
I made a thread like this a while ago. It had 34 pages before it got closed.
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Goku vs. Garou (Martial Arts Battle)

This thread is to compare Goku (Dragon Ball) and Garou (One-Punch Man) to find out who is likely going to win in a contest of pure hand-to-hand combat. Rules: Hand-to-hand combat only. Stats equalised No knowledge of each other Goku cannot use ki in any way, shape, or form No regeneration...
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You could probably just take the arguments from there and post them here again lol.
 
Kin201 said:
I made a thread like this a while ago. It had 34 pages before it got closed.
vsbattles.com

Goku vs. Garou (Martial Arts Battle)

This thread is to compare Goku (Dragon Ball) and Garou (One-Punch Man) to find out who is likely going to win in a contest of pure hand-to-hand combat. Rules: Hand-to-hand combat only. Stats equalised No knowledge of each other Goku cannot use ki in any way, shape, or form No regeneration...
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You could probably just take the arguments from there and post them here again lol.
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alright ill have this locked then since its not interesting if garou can just dura neg him
 
Rutæhh said:
alright ill have this locked then since its not interesting if garou can just dura neg him
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No, why?

DB supporters are not here yet. I mean in that same thread, dura neg was also argued, but still it lasted that long.
 
Kin201 said:
I made a thread like this a while ago. It had 34 pages before it got closed.
vsbattles.com

Goku vs. Garou (Martial Arts Battle)

This thread is to compare Goku (Dragon Ball) and Garou (One-Punch Man) to find out who is likely going to win in a contest of pure hand-to-hand combat. Rules: Hand-to-hand combat only. Stats equalised No knowledge of each other Goku cannot use ki in any way, shape, or form No regeneration...
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You could probably just take the arguments from there and post them here again lol.
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I can't even find where the conclusion is :d
 
And there will never be since neither side will admit it.
There could be a popularity contest though.
 
we will just have to wait and see. hopefully we can have a chill discussion despite it being mostly a popularity contest

what aspects of martial arts should be compared to determine the winner.
 
Doesn’t Garou’s vibration-based attacks do damage by harming someone’s internal organs and sidestepping their external durability? Hence why he used it on Saitama?

If that’s the case, there’s a thread right now that’s about to pass that’d give Goku resistance, as were shown that the ordinary Ki Defense of DBS Broly allows him to survive an explosion of Ki (from someone STRONGER than him) inside his very body.

So Goku’s internal durability and external durability should be comparable.
 
RedReaper616 said:
Doesn’t Garou’s vibration-based attacks do damage by harming someone’s internal organs and sidestepping their external durability? Hence why he used it on Saitama?
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That's Fa Jin. Which is dura neg cus targeting internals.

I'm talking about Roaring Qi Fist, which is vibrations that break every bone in the body.
 
Also, this is Parallel Timeline Garou. Everything he does is actually based on martial arts including GRB, black hole, portals etc.
 
Kin201 said:
Those are obviously restricted.

I think the OP should make it clear that only hand-to-hand techniques are allowed. So no things like Kamehameha or Time Travel.
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I know, i was just showing that Garou's restrictions are nowhere enough rn :d

Btw, All of those are hand to hand techniques.
 
how should i express that in OP?

"No Supernatural stuff for both Goku and Garou; Pure Hands Only" ?
 
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