Godzilla SP: Living the Dream

[Arceus0x]

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[Arceus0x]

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[Firestorm808]

"Countless" mathmatical dimensions seems fine.

How would the High 1-B/High 1-B+ Tiering Justification be worded on the profiles?

I am unsure about the Tier 1 dream layer recursion.

@Ultima_Reality

@Agnaa

Your input is appreciated.

 

[Arceus0x]

"Countless" mathmatical dimensions seems fine.

That's something already accepted in general

How would the High 1-B/High 1-B+ Tiering Justification be worded on the profiles?

I was thinking of adding it to the current cosmology page and writing it out there as I did with my CRT.
The only thing scaling to High 1-B+ would be the hax range (and potency for spacetime stuff).
I think the paradox universe destruction would on SHIVAs profile would scale, with it being something along the lines of
"Could cause a big bang with one of its paradoxes. The universe in this case is this big" with 'this' linking to the cosmology blog.

The SP itself is Low 1-A as per my proposals the justification of which would be something along the lines of
"Is described as a hole given from outside the metaphorical TV screen, reality being the "show" inside. Affecting the Singular Point from within space-time is described as impossible. Entering the Singular Point causes time to become effectively irrelevant."

I am unsure about the Tier 1 dream layer recursion.

Well i kinda gave up on it. Unless you saw the argument and think I gave in too soon, it doesn't matter no more.

 

[CitRusReality64]

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[Firestorm808]

To clarify, you are proposing that a singular universe has these countless mathematical dimensions?

 

[Arceus0x]

To clarify, you are proposing that a singular universe has these countless mathematical dimensions?

yes, there is a clear understanding throughout the book that the archetype molecules (which are connected to at least countless mathematical dimensions) as well as the higher-d bodies of the red dust creatures entered the universe and exist within it, the singular point creating the molecules in question and that SP being a hole given from outside of space-time.

 

[Arceus0x]

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[Arceus0x]

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I'mma be real with you chief you might have to evaluate this yourself

 

[CitRusReality64]

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[Firestorm808]

I'mma be real with you chief you might have to evaluate this yourself

Tier 1 stuff needs multiple staff.

 

[Arceus0x]

Tier 1 stuff needs multiple staff.

Planck and DDM already agreed as well as Vietthai

 

[Arceus0x]

Like im being for real, as far as standards go I need one more vote from an admin and that is basically it.

 

[Auaurora0107]

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[Imaginym]

I was asked to comment here.
This seems to concern with Tier 1 stuff & Godzilla, neither of which I am especially knowledgeable on.
I'm not sure, but perhaps it may help to summarize the stances & clarify what needs to be done &/or what can be done.

 

[Firestorm808]

yes, there is a clear understanding throughout the book that the archetype molecules (which are connected to at least countless mathematical dimensions) as well as the higher-d bodies of the red dust creatures entered the universe and exist within it, the singular point creating the molecules in question and that SP being a hole given from outside of space-time.

And throughout the book, it's only been ever referenced that there is 1 universe? A multiverse/parallel universes of sorts do not exist in this cosmology?

 

[Auaurora0107]

And throughout the book, it's only been ever referenced that there is 1 universe? A multiverse/parallel universes of sorts do not exist in this cosmology?

The book mentions David Deutchs time machines for parallel worlds and computations:

のは、多世界を利用したへの通信を利用した「超時間計算」の構成は有川ユンの独創で はない。世に最も知られた列計算の提唱者として知られるデイヴィッド・ドイッチの提案 したタイムマシン利用計算である。

The construction of "super time calculation" using communication to the past is not an original idea of Yun Arikawa. The most well-known is the time machine calculation proposed by David Deutsch, who is known as the proponent of column calculation using multiple worlds

David Deutsch’s Many-Worlds Theory proposes that new possible/parallel worlds exist, and time travel (via a time machine) allows communication or computation across them and effectively splitting or branching time.

This is made evident in the anime, BB and Mei Kamino use remote sensing to calculate the OD code capable of preventing the apocalypse. However, the number of possible future outcomes suddenly multiplies dramatically starting from 3 million to 3 billion which then continues to increase exponentially. As a result, the time remaining until destruction is drastically reduced to just three hours.

 

[Arceus0x]

And throughout the book, it's only been ever referenced that there is 1 universe? A multiverse/parallel universes of sorts do not exist in this cosmology?

They do, but there is no indication that the plot within this contained story extends beyond this single space-time. We are explicitly told the higher-D entities are invading this universe and the singular point specifically lets them invade universes because it is a point of contact, a place whete the 1-A "It" touched it.
Since we know "It" has destroyed thousands of worlds, we also know that this is one of the many worlds and the SP was placed inside of it.

Basically there is some 1-A reality where "It" (Godzilla's true form) flows. It makes contact with the universes it "dreams" of and those points of contact are the Singular Points. Through those points archetype molecules and red dust creatures get in.

 

[Arceus0x]

I was asked to comment here.
This seems to concern with Tier 1 stuff & Godzilla, neither of which I am especially knowledgeable on.
I'm not sure, but perhaps it may help to summarize the stances & clarify what needs to be done &/or what can be done.

As of rn

-There is evidence (in OP) that higher-D archetype molecules are uncountably infinite dimensional rather than countless dimensional as it was believed before.
-Those archetype molecules and entities that are made of them are located within the universe, meaning that the universe and anything that can affect it is also High 1-B+.
-The source of them is a Singular Point. The SP is a construct that is beyond space-time as a whole, you can't affect it from inside of space-time and being inside it makes time irrelevant, there being only one time dimension binding all the space dimensions. This makes it Low 1-A.
-A few minor ability changes mentioned in the end.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Everything makes sense, the only thing I'm not agreeing with is 1-A+

 

[Arceus0x]

It has been 3596 days. The water has nearly run out and we don't have much time left. We will die of thirst before we die of hunger and yet we must still continue our duty. We must still strike the bell to call upon the ones that rule us in hopes that maybe, just maybe they'll one day hear our heed. We shall strike until the end - bump, bump... Bump

 

[That_moron2]

It has been 3596 days. The water has nearly run out and we don't have much time left. We will die of thirst before we die of hunger and yet we must still continue our duty. We must still strike the bell to call upon the ones that rule us in hopes that maybe, just maybe they'll one day hear our heed. We shall strike until the end - bump, bump... Bump

Its not that deep

 

[Auaurora0107]

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[Firestorm808]

They do, but there is no indication that the plot within this contained story extends beyond this single space-time. We are explicitly told the higher-D entities are invading this universe and the singular point specifically lets them invade universes because it is a point of contact, a place whete the 1-A "It" touched it.
Since we know "It" has destroyed thousands of worlds, we also know that this is one of the many worlds and the SP was placed inside of it.

Basically there is some 1-A reality where "It" (Godzilla's true form) flows. It makes contact with the universes it "dreams" of and those points of contact are the Singular Points. Through those points archetype molecules and red dust creatures get in.

To clarify, it's being proposed that there are no other larger dimensions between the limits of the universe and the 1-A border?

 

[Arceus0x]

To clarify, it's being proposed that there are no other larger dimensions between the limits of the universe and the 1-A border?

Not sure what exactly you mean.

I am proposing that the universe is High 1-B+ because it can contain High 1-B+ objects, something impossible for anything below that size. We know it is specifically the universe that can contain them and the hole made in the universe, that being the Singular Point, is a construct that exists explicitly beyond space and time as a whole, being effectively unreachable from within them. We don't know anything beyond that, all we know is that there are some unknown parallel universes. We don't know where or how they exist. We know that the story itself takes place within the boundaries of the universe in question, that includes the H1B+ entities that appear within it.

 

[Auaurora0107]

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[Arceus0x]

 

[Firestorm808]

I think the paradox universe destruction would on SHIVAs profile would scale, with it being something along the lines of
"Could cause a big bang with one of its paradoxes. The universe in this case is this big" with 'this' linking to the cosmology blog.

I suppose this is fine.

The SP itself is Low 1-A as per my proposals the justification of which would be something along the lines of
"Is described as a hole given from outside the metaphorical TV screen, reality being the "show" inside. Affecting the Singular Point from within space-time is described as impossible. Entering the Singular Point causes time to become effectively irrelevant."

This is fine.

 

[Arceus0x]

I suppose this is fine.

This is fine.

Thank you. I shall begin applying it tomorrow.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Doneso! Arceus0x and I applied the updates to the respective pages; this can be closed now.