The former, but he can null up to Low-Mid in combat with Numbing Mist
Does it stop people from healing back up after death or does the regen neg work via "haha I hit you, you can't regen anymore"
Because mind you, if it's the latter, El Gato takes care of that by a mile.
And slap has mid regen. Out the window. NEXT.
Sorry you dont like the standards this site has? I dont know what else to tell you.
Yeah we have AGAR io on the wiki dude.
The indexing isnt the problem, the problem is arguing what a character's starting move would be when they have no concrete fighting style or set ability that they lead with
I mean... play the game? I don't know what else to tell you.
If the only way to gauge what a character can/will do in a vs thread is by playing the game, and it has no cutscenes or depictions of the character fighting on their own without player interaction, then you cannot viably argue that they would lead with any one specific thing in their arsenal
John Slap doesn't really have an "in-character" modus operandi for how players work in-combat. The game's main goal is for players to fight each-other and collect slaps. They obtain shards and gems by slapping/killing one another or via collecting them on slapple island (which, again, requires fighting other players). Because of this, it can be assumed that they'll just "kill" in-character because the game rewards them for it.
Thats what I mean, since the only method of combat is player-influenced with no reference to how the player would fight on their own, it is basically impossible to say for certain what the player would lead with when fighting on there own without being controlled. It doesnt help either that they have literally hundreds of abilities to choose from.
Ok I can't believe I have to say this again. But common sense. The main point of this is we need to assume that he has common sense. For example, the main point of slap battles is to knock your opponent off, and slap and the people in his verse no sell most of their value. So if slap sees someone who he assumes to be equal to them, and there's no way to knock his opponent off. Do you really think he's going to use a glove for knocking his opponent off (which he can't do) that he thinks the hunter will no sell. Or will he use his strongest gloves with bypass durability. We can use the same logic for the hunter, it's impossible to see if heel start with his high level weapons first because no cutscenes, and you know that anti Regen mist you brought up? Can't be used.
We can use this logic for the hunter. No proof hed use his high level weapons so therefore he can't??? Obviously he'd use his high level weapons because he has common sense. As for the hundreds of weapons excuse do you really think slap is going to use the glove that makes him spin in a circle against a foe he believes to be equal to him, there's also a clip in the official slap battles ttailer of a player fighting similarly to how others would
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Bro don’t spam. You just did 5? comments in a row?
while this is fair, dosent change my points about slap. Even if you wanna realllly stretch it and say that slap would not use his strongest weapon for some reason (even though in story strong gloves like overkill "or overcringe in this case", are aknowledged as being strong). Then the hunter really dosent have any effective way to permakill slap other than maybe bloodletter. And the hunter would not know specificlly to use bloodletter (also want to point out how i asked several times for clips of the weapon instead of a random ass wiki page and got nothing). The hunters fighting style being concrete would not make their weapon choice concrete
Thunder. The Hunter is immortal. Unless you just **** over the Moon Presence's shit or can instant gib him every time for eternity, he is GOING to pull this shit out eventually. It's not if, it's when. And Slap's power null has no proof of working on ******' time reversal
I already explained how the flex and megarock transmutation would technically keep him alive to prevent death revival, and powernull him to prevent him from forcing a revive but ok man. From my understanding the moon presence only revives the hunter when hes dead so unless u wnna argue the moon presence will revive the hunter even when hes not dead (i asked weekly for a clip nearly 4 times, and when he finally replied he switched the subject to (ok maybe slap can incap the hunter but....))
So in other words, quite ******* LITERALLY nothing preventing the Moon Presence from reversing that shit due to nothing against time reversal, got it.
just because he can dosent mean he would. Show scans of the moon presence interfering when the hunter is incapped instead of dead, or your argument is null,
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Damn, didn't know your shit had Causality Manipulation.
my argument was the flex could incap and powernull. You need to show proof of the moon presence interfering when the hunter is incapped instead of dead. My dislexic ass said dead instead of incapped
no theyre not. Im going to explain this again, the reason i doubt that they would use anything other than their dura neg gloves, is the other gloves are going to esentially going to be useless because theres no void to knock the player in to, so why would slap use a glove specifically meant to knock players into the void when there is no void? And yet again, the hunter has a lack of a consistent way to put down slaps superior regen and their ability to instantly heal with el gato and other gloves.
Could you try to keep it in a single post or two please? It's filling up the thread with pages.
Circular argument on powernull. Prove it works on time reversal
As for incapped, when you're kidnapped by I think the snatchers, you can just say **** it and go to the Hunter's Dream.
And oh, how long does this last? Mmmm, right, not forever. Try again. Ketheric Thourm style.
Yeah sure, thats my bad, i usually get new ideas after i post my stuff and then deicde to make a all new post because i dont want my points to be missed
we can use your logic for the hunter too, bloodletter from what ive seen is the only thing that can consistently put down slap. Hunters gonna be pulling out of a hat too. And again, the 250 glove argument dosent hold up because hes not going to use something like default glove against someone he belives to equal to him. Regurgitating the same points over and over wont make you more correct
Just because thats an optimal thing for a person playing the game to use does not mean its something that the character would be guaranteed to use on their own with zero player influence. Thats like arguing that the Hunter is going to be exclusively using the strongest meta builds right off the bat, like a minmaxed Lost Whirligig Saw with perfect scaling blood gems
Literally any of his weapons can kill Slap. He doesnt need a specific ability or weapon to kill him, any of his weapons can.
you cant just say i think you need solid evidence. And them powernulling the hunter dosent even matter, it prevents them from using hunters mark to auto revive sure. but slap dosent even need to power null time reversal as its not the hunter isint the one rewinding time, the hunters dream is
