A Hunters grasp| The Hunter (Bloodborne) vs The Player (Slap battles) | [10-2-0] (Concluded)

[Keeweed]

This site is unusable on mobile. So much lag.
Here is the in game description “
Dangling, upside-down rune etched in one's mind. Symbol of a hunter.

BY FOCUSING ONE'S THOUGHTS ON THIS RUNE, A HUNTER LOSES ALL BLOOD ECHOES, BUT AWAKES AFRESH, AS IF IT WERE ALL JUST A BAD DREAM.”

 

[Keeweed]

It’s a mark in your mind you think about and the moon presence resets you. The hunter won’t be incapacitated by BFR or petrification, they just need to think about coming back

 

[Keeweed]

the wiki says its a consumable. And it’s hard to find a clip of it cause apparently its really bad to use for your player (even more reason why he wouldnt be using it). Could u show a clip perhps

It’s bad in gameplay, out of game there is no reason not to use it. It just resets your currency.

 

[Thunderman101]

This site is unusable on mobile. So much lag.
Here is the in game description “
Dangling, upside-down rune etched in one's mind. Symbol of a hunter.

BY FOCUSING ONE'S THOUGHTS ON THIS RUNE, A HUNTER LOSES ALL BLOOD ECHOES, BUT AWAKES AFRESH, AS IF IT WERE ALL JUST A BAD DREAM.”

. if i have my energy blast powers nullified and i still do the hand symbol to activate it, is an energy blast gonna come out?

 

[Thunderman101]

when something is nullified, jsut because you do the action to activate it wont make it work, because its nullified

 

[Keeweed]

. if i have my energy blast powers nullified and i still do the hand symbol to activate it, is an energy blast gonna come out?

You don’t need to do a hand symbol, the description says you think about it. In game you have an animation to show you are using it (as it would be goofy to just have the screen fade out). But even being generous, focusing on the mark gives you a headache and the character reacts to that, but the lore description specifically states the hunter just needs to think about it

 

[Keeweed]

when something is nullified, jsut because you do the action to activate it wont make it work, because its nullified

That entirely depends on the power null. Can slaps power null thinking, because if not the moon presence picks the hunter up.

 

[Thunderman101]

That entirely depends on the power null. Can slaps power null thinking, because if not the moon presence picks the hunter up.

it dosent matter how the action is protrayed. Its not layered so no powernull counter.
Also slaps powernull can nullify the passive effects of nightmare glove, which causes peoples sense of thinking to warp

https://roblox-slap-battles.fandom.com/wiki/Nightmare

 

[Keeweed]

That’s not nulling thoughts that’s nullifying mind manipulation. The nightmare glove would work against the mark, but slaps has no clue they would need to do that and if they cause death with it, the moon presence resets due to the death. Meaning slaps literally has no way to ever learn the particular combo they need to do before bloodletter nukes their brain

 

[Thunderman101]

That’s not nulling thoughts that’s nullifying mind manipulation. The nightmare glove would work against the mark, but slaps has no clue they would need to do that and if they cause death with it, the moon presence resets due to the death. Meaning slaps literally has no way to ever learn the particular combo they need to do before bloodletter nukes their brain

true fair, but thats not how powernull works. it dosent matter how the action is protrayed. Its not layered so no powernull counter. Hunter has no idea they need bloodletter to kill slap and considering slaps fighting style revolves around dodgins the opponent and attacking i think theyll be fine

 

[Keeweed]

Like I need to clarify, slaps has one hit, and an anti healing mist before the hunter switches to status effects, bleed and poison likely skipped due to slaps cartoonish regeneration. Meaning he has at best a flame thrower and magic before the bloodletter is coming out for the frenzy test. All that assuming the hunter isn’t already using bloodletter given they can be started with it. Slaps has very little time to go for a super big combo, and if slaps kills the hunter he loses all knowledge of the fight and has to restart

 

[Keeweed]

true fair, but thats not how powernull works. it dosent matter how the action is protrayed. It’s not layered so no powernull counter. Hunter has no idea they need bloodletter to kill slap and considering slaps fighting style revolves around dodgins the opponent and attacking i think theyll be fine

But they aren’t power nulling the right thing nor guy. The hunter doesn’t have the resurrection, the moon presence does. The hunter thinks about the moon presence, the moon presence bails them out.

I gotta work, again, I will see how the last votes needed land (voting Hunter to make it clear)

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Kinda hard to tell who wins here, but I'm leaning more towards the Hunter. First off, he takes both AP with being around 14 kilotons, which is double the Player's. He also wholly outclass in lifting strength. Beyond that though, the Hunter's immortality greatly exceeds nearly any power of the Player, and is also far more skilled than them. At most they die once or twice, but more than likely once they get in melee range he's able to just take him out.

so ur voting?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Hunter FRA

Hunter FRA but I may change my vote later

we've hit grace

 

[Thunderman101]

so ur voting?

leaning is not voting

Like I need to clarify, slaps has one hit, and an anti healing mist before the hunter switches to status effects, bleed and poison likely skipped due to slaps cartoonish regeneration. Meaning he has at best a flame thrower and magic before the bloodletter is coming out for the frenzy test. All that assuming the hunter isn’t already using bloodletter given they can be started with it. Slaps has very little time to go for a super big combo, and if slaps kills the hunter he loses all knowledge of the fight and has to restart

he dosent need a super big combo, just deadass needs to hit him with the flex or wait for hunter to touch the megarock

But they aren’t power nulling the right thing nor guy. The hunter doesn’t have the resurrection, the moon presence does. The hunter thinks about the moon presence, the moon presence bails them out.

I gotta work, again, I will see how the last votes needed land (voting Hunter to make it clear)

the hunter thinking about the moon presence needs to happen because he focuses his thoughts on the rune.

1.He wont even have the rune in his brain due to it being gold
2.The rune will be powernulled.
3.The hunter teleporting will be powernulled

 

[Thunderman101]

we've hit grace

:/ once again my arguments are strawmanned and ignored. Weekly deadass lied and his arguments and several time and i was ghosted by people who voted earlier when my arguments were fully compiled. Seems kinda unfair to me

 

[Delusionaltx2]

But they aren’t power nulling the right thing nor guy. The hunter doesn’t have the resurrection, the moon presence does. The hunter thinks about the moon presence, the moon presence bails them out.

I gotta work, again, I will see how the last votes needed land (voting Hunter to make it clear)

Thanks for clarifying (counted)

 

[Thunderman101]

can this even be added? if we go by the other sides logic slap has zero win cons (Do not try and twist this into me changing my argument, i disagree with slap losing but if hunter wins for the reasons the other side states is an unfair matchup. If its going to be like this every thread with people using the "slap wouldnt know what to do argument", instead of actually debating powers and abilites i dont even thing he should be in threads anymore" I was also ghosted yet again half this thread.)

Thanks for clarifying (counted)

 

[Thunderman101]

i asked several people who said hunter fra when i compiled my arguments to explain why and was yet again ghosted. Im honestly done with this, planning on working on different roblox projects maybe

 

[Delusionaltx2]

can this even be added? if we go by the other sides logic slap has zero win cons (Do not try and twist this into me changing my argument, i disagree with slap losing but if hunter wins for the reasons the other side states is an unfair matchup. If its going to be like this every thread with people using the "slap wouldnt know what to do argument", instead of actually debating powers and abilites i dont even thing he should be in threads anymore" I was also ghosted yet again half this thread.)

The arguments extend towards hunter just using bloodletter before slap uses the right set of gloves...

I don't think this is a stomp per say

 

[Delusionaltx2]

i asked several people who said hunter fra when i compiled my arguments to explain why and was yet again ghosted. Im honestly done with this, planning on working on different roblox projects maybe

pizza game/parry is open (I could use supps)

 

[Kellex]

i asked several people who said hunter fra when i compiled my arguments to explain why and was yet again ghosted. Im honestly done with this, planning on working on different roblox projects maybe

I've read most of the """""new""""" arguments from both sides and I'm still keeping my vote for the Hunter.

 

[Thunderman101]

The arguments extend towards hunter just using bloodletter before slap uses the right set of gloves...

I don't think this is a stomp per say

not nessecarily. Im not saying slap would use the right set of gloves, just that he would use the flex. Bloodletter has no evidence it would be used first compared to me providing several justifications to why slap would use one shots first and eventually the flex due to it being a one shot itself. I asked for evidence of the hunter coming back from incap and was ignored before weekly decided to switch the subject. This entire thread has been my arguments being overcomplexified into something i did not say at all so its easier to attack

pizza game/parry is open (I could use supps)

sure why not

I've read most of the """""new""""" arguments from both sides and I'm still keeping my vote for the Hunter.

hunter has no counter to the flex??

bloodletter has a pretty short range, and considering how slaps fighting style is dodged based he should be able to ddoge it at least a couple times

 

[Delusionaltx2]

not nessecarily. Im not saying slap would use the right set of gloves, just that he would use the flex.

He kinda has too though...? And I imagine he would switch between gloves especially after seeing the hunters varying set of abilities combined with the fact he can harm them

Bloodletter has no evidence it would be used first compared to me providing several justifications to why slap would use one shots first and eventually the flex due to it being a one shot itself. I asked for evidence of the hunter coming back from incap and was ignored before weekly decided to switch the subject. This entire thread has been my arguments being overcomplexified into something i did not say at all so its easier to attack

again argue with voters ig (I would read but I don't have the time to keep up with a 11 page thread)

 

[Thunderman101]

the only argument you can make for the hunter effectivley putting down slap is one where he kills slap in less than 2 seconds in close combat before he equips elude and teelports away. Hunter has anti heal mist but that goes up to low mid at best, and his regenratio negation dosent stop the regeneration, just prevents you from getting back up from death.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

sure why not

tell me which one ur interested in ig

 

[Thunderman101]

tell me which one ur interested in ig

pizza guy seems pretty cool

 

[Thunderman101]

tell me which one ur interested in ig

either way slap needs to get standard tatics added and a bunch of other stuff because im tired of people using the same excuses to debunk slap for something that has nothing to do with the fight. First it was travis and then now again

 

[Delusionaltx2]

pizza guy seems pretty cool

Tell me when you're done with the game in roblox discussion

i should warn you tho...pizza game is hard

 

[Thunderman101]

Tell me when you're done with the game in roblox discussion

i should warn you tho...pizza game is hard

does it have mobile support? ill check it out when i can

 

[Delusionaltx2]

does it have mobile support? ill check it out when i can

yeah it does (its harder on mobile tho)

 

[Thunderman101]

yeah it does (its harder on mobile tho)

uh oh. What do i do if i cant beat it.

also on a side note: I was thinking of learning how to calc so i dont have to annoy people all the time for calculations, do u have any advice on where to get started

 

[Delusionaltx2]

uh oh

you could just do parry instead (it also has mob supp)

 

[Thunderman101]

you could just do parry instead (it also has mob supp)

do we plan on adding this? The hunter won because the other side said slap has no way to put him down. While i disagree with this is one side has no wincon is it not a stomp

 

[Thunderman101]

do we plan on adding this? The hunter won because the other side said slap has no way to put him down. While i disagree with this is one side has no wincon is it not a stomp

Also i dont really want any other slap matchups to happen till his profile is better, though i have no control over it

 

[Delusionaltx2]

do we plan on adding this? The hunter won because the other side said slap has no way to put him down. While i disagree with this is one side has no wincon is it not a stomp

Well if the other side thinks slap has a wincondition then by wiki rules it isn't really a stomp iirc

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Also i dont really want any other slap matchups to happen till his profile is better, though i have no control over it

Alright (I agree with this too)

 

[Thunderman101]

Well if the other side thinks slap has a wincondition then by wiki rules it isn't really a stomp iirc

U sure, i dont see that anywhere on the stomp thread page

 

[Thunderman101]

The definiton of stomp:Whether it is through a difference in statistics, abilities or even (in very rare cases) skill between the two parties, these matches are heavily one-sided and provide little to no challenge or danger for the winning character.

pretty sure the hunter not being able to die would count as no danger.

I also feel like most of the votes came from a time where the argument that slap has no tatics, and by the time that was disproved it was already too late/they wouldnt change thier mind

(I also really dont want slap to start stacking up losses)

• Both characters are otherwise evenly matched in terms of statistics and abilities, but one has regeneration that the other can possibly, but not easily, surmount (if we go by hunter sides logic slap Cannot bypass hunters regen)

All im saying is theres usually a majority wins rules for these types of threads, so even if a minority disagrees for the reasons would that really matter

 

[Delusionaltx2]

U sure, i dont see that anywhere on the stomp thread page

• Unlike a match which is decisive in one character's favor, stomp matches very rarely leave any room for debate, with their outcomes coming across as predictable to anyone with even cursory knowledge of the combatants and their abilities.

In this instance the match has reached 11 pages so it isn't really a stomp match just decisive at best

Edit: in fact at one point someone actually voted for slap and then switched to the hunter and then kept switching until they settled on voting hunter so yeah its decisive