A Hunters grasp| The Hunter (Bloodborne) vs The Player (Slap battles) | [10-2-0] (Concluded)

[Thunderman101]

I also know its not possible to redo this thread, because weve already hit grace, and although id like to have my arguments more formalized, theres nothing I can do.
dont really see where the characterless thing comes from when

In this instance the match has reached 11 pages so it isn't really a stomp match just decisive at best

90% of these arguments were arguing if slap would use his strongest weapon in character, thats not really related to the matchup



I dont think one character having zero wincons is really desicive, I would say that i could be wrong but then it looks like im trying to change my argument. I heavily disagree for the reasons the hunter winning, but the people who voted likley havent revisited this thread so theres nothing I can do to get voters

I also feel like there might be a slight bias due to roblox not being really seen as a serious verse on the wiki by some people, but im prob just reaching. Id really like this to not be added due to slaps page till we can have him at max potential.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

I also know its not possible to redo this thread, because weve already hit grace, and although id like to have my arguments more formalized, theres nothing I can do.
dont really see where the characterless thing comes from when

i'd suggest redoing it after making CRTs

90% of these arguments were arguing if slap would use his strongest weapon in character, thats not really related to the matchup

it is since it determines if slap would pull off their wincons before the hunter

I dont think one character having zero wincons is really desicive, I would say that i could be wrong but then it looks like im trying to change my argument. I heavily disagree for the reasons the hunter winning, but the people who voted likley havent revisited this thread so theres nothing I can do to get voters

Slap has wincons though...

I also feel like there might be a slight bias due to roblox not being really seen as a serious verse on the wiki by some people, but im prob just reaching.

this I kinda agree with

Id really like this to not be added due to slaps page till we can have him at max potential.

yeah

 

[Thunderman101]

i'd suggest redoing it after making CRTs

it is since it determines if slap would pull off their wincons before the hunter

Slap has wincons though...

this I kinda agree with

yeah

1.Ok that sounds good, weve currently got a bunch of slap crts pending so itll have to wait a bit.

2.I mean why wouldnt slap use his strongest weapons especially since he woulld consider the hunter to no sells all gloves since everyone in his verse no sells his one shots

3.I mean not according to the other side, theyve been constantly insiting the incap wouldnt work. Read the earlier posts i this page

 

[Delusionaltx2]

1.Ok that sounds good, weve currently got a bunch of slap crts pending so itll have to wait a bit.

2.I mean why wouldnt slap use his strongest weapons especially since he woulld consider the hunter to no sells all gloves since everyone in his verse no sells his one shots

because some of the strongest work while others don't

3.I mean not according to the other side, theyve been constantly insiting the incap wouldnt work. Read the earlier posts i this page

but you still do...

 

[Thunderman101]

because some of the strongest work while others don't

but you still do...

True, but im also arguing that the hunter has no real way to put down slap effectivley. It takes him like 2 seconds max to iuse elude to get out of there in close combat so hunter has to kill someone fighting back in less than 2 seconds. Theres no real justification for him using the bloodletter first and hunters regen negation goes up to low mid while slaps regen is mid. While some of the strongest work, if we go over the one shots that actually one shot and the "one shots", that are only one shtos because they throw the oppoents into the void (which wouldnt count cause there is no void here). THen slap has six gloves that are actual one shots one shots. The hunter meanwhile has 26 weapons. 6 vs 26, so i think slaps weapons would be narrowed down faster than hunter

 

[Delusionaltx2]

True, but im also arguing that the hunter has no real way to put down slap effectivley. It takes him like 2 seconds max to iuse elude to get out of there in close combat so hunter has to kill someone fighting back in less than 2 seconds. Theres no real justification for him using the bloodletter first and hunters regen negation goes up to low mid while slaps regen is mid. While some of the strongest work, if we go over the one shots that actually one shot and the "one shots", that are only one shtos because they throw the oppoents into the void (which wouldnt count cause there is no void here). THen slap has six gloves that are actual one shots one shots. The hunter meanwhile has 26 weapons. 6 vs 26, so i think slaps weapons would be narrowed down faster than hunter

Then all of that is also another wincon for slap

 

[Thunderman101]

Then all of that is also another wincon for slap

yes, but its also too late. people arent gonna come to a thread that says grace, and ive been arguing with one person, most have abbonded the thread and when i mass pinged everyone who voted with my summary i got 1 response and it was reaper insulting me

 

[Delusionaltx2]

yes, but its also too late. people arent gonna come to a thread that says grace, and ive been arguing with one person, most have abbonded the thread and when i mass pinged everyone who voted with my summary i got 1 response and it was reaper insulting me

gonna be honest, I think the thread has long overstayed its welcome to the point where nobody else showing up shouldn't really be a concern

A good vs thread is usually like 3 pages, maybe 4 if you wanna be lengthy, this is 12...there's been plenty of time and plenty of people

 

[Thunderman101]

gonna be honest, I think the thread has long overstayed its welcome to the point where nobody else showing up shouldn't really be a concern

A good vs thread is usually like 3 pages, maybe 4 if you wanna be lengthy, this is 12...there's been plenty of time and plenty of people

fair, ill get the crts done and try and get a rematch. Theres an ongoing thread of steve vs player so ill get that done and thattl probbaly be the last one for a while. I will be back @WeeklyBattles

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Isn’t hunter a player too? How can one assume he choose anything over the other stuff like how you said slap would?

The Hunter has actual cutscenes depicting him fighting without player influence

 

[Thunderman101]

The Hunter has actual cutscenes depicting him fighting without player influence

were wayyyy past that dude Im also arguing that the hunter has no real way to put down slap effectivley. It takes him like 2 seconds max to iuse elude to get out of there in close combat so hunter has to kill someone fighting back in less than 2 seconds. Theres no real justification for him using the bloodletter first and hunters regen negation goes up to low mid while slaps regen is mid. While some of the strongest work, if we go over the one shots that actually one shot and the "one shots", that are only one shtos because they throw the oppoents into the void (which wouldnt count cause there is no void here). THen slap has six gloves that are actual one shots one shots. The hunter meanwhile has 26 weapons. 6 vs 26, so i think slaps weapons would be narrowed down faster than hunter

 

[Keeweed]

Half those weapons are guns the hunter can use with the melee weapons and would drop upon seeing the mid regeneration. The mark specifically is stated to be in their mind not brain. Also if transmutation causes brain death, that is death, so the moon presence will resurrect them. He can’t power null the resurrection nor teleportation since both come from the moon presence who isn’t being hit by the power null because he’s a higher dimension away (whether that is spatial or not doesn’t matter, point is he’s not here to even be hit by it)

 

[Thunderman101]

Half those weapons are guns the hunter can use with the melee weapons and would drop upon seeing the mid regeneration. The mark specifically is stated to be in their mind not brain. Also if transmutation causes brain death, that is death, so the moon presence will resurrect them. He can’t power null the resurrection nor teleportation since both come from the moon presence who isn’t being hit by the power null because he’s a higher dimension away (whether that is spatial or not doesn’t matter, point is he’s not here to even be hit by it)

Still 6 options vs 26. Transmutation would not cause braindeath, all im saying is that the hunters ability to call the moon prsence with their mind due to focusisng their energy would be negated too because im pretty sure calling a higher dimensional entity to help you is interdimensional range which is very much a power. Theres also an ability in slap battles called golem, and you have the ability to call your own golem to help you, flexing on someone negates this

https://roblox-slap-battles.fandom.com/wiki/Golem

 

[Keeweed]

If the transmutation doesn’t kill then the Hunter calls space dad. Also I checked and the player has no resistances without items so what stops the flamethrower from cooking him since it incinerates a creature that is constantly engulfed in lightning

 

[Thunderman101]

If the transmutation doesn’t kill then the Hunter calls space dad. Also I checked and the player has no resistances without items so what stops the flamethrower from cooking him since it incinerates a creature that is constantly engulfed in lightning

slaps dealt with being engulfed in lighting:

https://roblox-slap-battles.fandom.com/wiki/Chain

https://roblox-slap-battles.fandom.com/wiki/Thundercaller

And fire:

https://roblox-slap-battles.fandom.com/wiki/Pyromania

Plus being able to interdimensionally call a being sounds alot like an ability to me. Excluding the fact that i already gave an example of the transmutation negating someones ability to call someone else for help (Golem glove)

 

[Keeweed]

The moon presence is actively watching over you. That’s why the time reversal is automatic when you die. He doesn’t need to actually call, the moon presence is the one that gives you the mark and you just need to answer, I doubt the gloves literally power null an actual thought. Plus, again, any time the player gains a foot hold he completely resets and completely forgets what he even did, meaning he has no reasons to switch strategies.

 

[Thunderman101]

The moon presence is actively watching over you. That’s why the time reversal is automatic when you die. He doesn’t need to actually call, the moon presence is the one that gives you the mark and you just need to answer, I doubt the gloves literally power null an actual thought. Plus, again, any time the player gains a foot hold he completely resets and completely forgets what he even did, meaning he has no reasons to switch strategies.

Except the hunter is not dying here, so the moon presence will not auto revive. and what do you mean you dont activley need to call look at what you were saying 10 minutes ago. He will not even be able to respond because power null, you cant switch your argument when its conivenient. The hunter activley neds to focus all their thought and energy on the rune to interdimensionally respond to the moon presence. And the player will only reset his mind if the hunter dies

If the transmutation doesn’t kill then the Hunter calls space dad. Also I checked and the player has no resistances without items so what stops the flamethrower from cooking him since it incinerates a creature that is constantly engulfed in lightning

 

[Keeweed]

Again, prove to me the player’s power null literally stops thinking. Because that’s all the Hunter needs to do for the presence to notice. Be back in 30 to 40 minutes

 

[WeeklyBattles]

A list of the weekly things that have been claimed with no proof

1.The hunter can kill someone with mid regen in less than 2 seconds

the Hunter has an over 2x AP advantage, Low-Godly nullification, and aims for vitals in-character

2.The hunter can come back from being incapped

He can yes, and youre leaving out the part were in order to incap the Hunter, Slap has to use one of three specific gloves out of 250+, and then make physical contact with the Hunter despite him constantly dodging attacks in-character

3.I showed no timestamp for the slap fightstyle (0:18 of the trailer)

I literally said that his profile said the moon presence only helps the hunter if he gets killed. Weekly quite literally replied with "that is incorrect". I gave a direct quote from the profile and he hasnt replied and is still getting votes. Ive taken the time to get all my arguments compiled so id like a proper rebbutal which isint just people claiming things with a lack of proof. I know i dont have scans either but i am happy to provide them

Yes, as i said, the current profile is incorrect, The Moon Presence helps the Hunter even when he is incapped.

 

[Thunderman101]

the Hunter has an over 2x AP advantage, Low-Godly nullification, and aims for vitals in-character

He can yes, and youre leaving out the part were in order to incap the Hunter, Slap has to use one of three specific gloves out of 250+, and then make physical contact with the Hunter despite him constantly dodging attacks in-character

Yes, as i said, the current profile is incorrect, The Moon Presence helps the Hunter even when he is incapped.

will respond soon

 

[WeeklyBattles]

from the trailer, slaps main fighting style is jumping up, flicking and trying to avoid the opponent while slapping at the same time. Theres only a handfull of gloves that are really one shots (half the gloves in one shot mode are ones that just knock you into the void, and in a scenario like this slap wouldnt use gloves that knock you into the void because there is no void)

The gloves are:

• Reaper 3,500 (Void)
• Killstreak 5,000 (Void)
• Sbeve 44,000 (easy incon)
• Doomsday 45,500 (Void)
• Error 50,000
• God's Hand 65,000 (Void, but good for stuns)
• The Flex 100,000
• OVERKILL 450
• bus
  
  (Void)
• bob
  
• Detonator
  
  (Void)
• Link
  
• Leash
  
  (void)
• Berserk
  
  (Void)
• Psycho
  
  (Void)
• rob
  

so like you said, slap has like 6 gloves. But if he uses anything other than the flex first and realizes hgunters isint gonna die, heel just sue something like flex to incap him

So, im going to be extremely generous to Slap here. If he does somehow manage to kill The Hunter, Slap will not remember doing so. The Hunter's time rewind rewinds EVERYTHING, including the opponent's memories of previous fights. The Hunter is the only one who keeps memories of the fights.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

yes but theres no evidence to say the hunter would start with bloodletter.

He doesnt need to, ay one of the Hunter's weapons would kill Slap

ive explained several times why slap would start with his. Also bloodletter can be dodged, i heard the madness manip was aoe but asked for clips and got none

Three people have posted clips of the AoE attack my guy

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It is an aoe that has more range than slaps you can just look up a weapon’s showcase it would take two seconds.
Also the hunter has a reason to go for the particular weapon that works and even random its a 1/12 chance. Slaps has 1/100.

Thats the thing, all of the Hunter's weapons would work, he doesnt specifically need the Bloodletter to win here. So in reality its 12/12 vs Slap's ~10/250

 

[WeeklyBattles]

dosent he need to activley hold and use the item. hard to do that as a statue

another thing i want to point out is that being petrified would just take all the hunters equipment like it does for gloves in slap battles. From my understanding the hunters mark is an item and not a built in abilit

No, its not a physical item, its a rune embedded in his subconscious, its literally part of his mind

 

[Thunderman101]

He doesnt need to, ay one of the Hunter's weapons would kill Slap

Three people have posted clips of the AoE attack my guy

That Is the most pathetic aoe attack I've seen

So, im going to be extremely generous to Slap here. If he does somehow manage to kill The Hunter, Slap will not remember doing so. The Hunter's time rewind rewinds EVERYTHING, including the opponent's memories of previous fights. The Hunter is the only one who keeps memories of the fights.

IAM NOT ARGUING THAT HE WILL KILL THE HUNTER, HE WILL TRANSMUTATE INCAP HIM HACE YOU BEEN READING NOTHING

the Hunter has an over 2x AP advantage, Low-Godly nullification, and aims for vitals in-character

He can yes, and youre leaving out the part were in order to incap the Hunter, Slap has to use one of three specific gloves out of 250+, and then make physical contact with the Hunter despite him constantly dodging attacks in-character

Yes, as i said, the current profile is incorrect, The Moon Presence helps the Hunter even when he is incapped.

You said earlier the nullification was just stopping people from reviving, not from regeneration himself, I'm happy to pull the clip up

I've already explained why slap would use his one shots. I will put this step by step yet again

1.Everyine in slaps verse no sells his value, so when put up against an opponent he would likely believe to be equal because of said no sell, why would be used a glove like stick. So we can eliminate all the useless gloves
2.Most of the combat applicable gloves are no selled by people's in slaps verse, so slap wouldn't likely use them. We can narrow even more
3.now we have the one shot gloves, most one shot gloves are one shots because they can knock their opponent off the map easy, there is no map to be knocked off here, so slap wouldn't use it, so we can count those out.

So lastly, all we really have is the gloves that actually one shot and maybe some outliers. Can the hunter supporters stop circle jerking for a sec

 

[Thunderman101]

No, its not a physical item, its a rune embedded in his subconscious, its literally part of his mind

Still, interdimensional communication with an Eldritch entity sounds alot like an ability to me

 

[WeeklyBattles]

the wiki says its a consumable. And its hard to find a clip of it cause apparently its really bad to use for your player (even more reason why he wouldnt be using it). Could u show a clip perhps

Thats the Bold Hunter's Mark, not the Hunter's Mark

Bold Hunter's Mark

Bold Hunter's Mark Bloodborne Wiki » Items » Consumables » Bold Hunter's Mark Source ❘ Edit ❘ ...

www.bloodborne-wiki.com

Hunter's Mark

Hunter's Mark Bloodborne Wiki » Items » Consumables » Hunter's Mark Source ❘ Edit ❘ Sitemap ...

www.bloodborne-wiki.com

 

[WeeklyBattles]

true fair, but thats not how powernull works. it dosent matter how the action is protrayed. Its not layered so no powernull counter. Hunter has no idea they need bloodletter to kill slap and considering slaps fighting style revolves around dodgins the opponent and attacking i think theyll be fine

They dont need the bloodletter to kill slap, any one of their weapons would kill him

 

[Thunderman101]

They dont need the bloodletter to kill slap, any one of their weapons would kill him

Hey can you adres what I'm saying now

 

[Thunderman101]

Again, interdimensional communication with a hde sounds alot like an ability to me. Keeweed you have consistently been arguing that it's the hunter calling the moon presence (which wouldn't work because of power null, an ability being thought based would not make it immune to powernull). And now you randomly switch up and say it's the moon cell calling the hunter?

From this

If the transmutation doesn’t kill then the Hunter calls space dad. Also I checked and the player has no resistances without items so what stops the flamethrower from cooking him since it incinerates a creature that is constantly engulfed in lightning

To this

The moon presence is actively watching over you. That’s why the time reversal is automatic when you die. He doesn’t need to actually call, the moon presence is the one that gives you the mark and you just need to answer, I doubt the gloves literally power null an actual thought. Plus, again, any time the player gains a foot hold he completely resets and completely forgets what he even did, meaning he has no reasons to switch strategies.

 

[Kachon123]

Hunter clearly wins this. Voting Hunter FRA.

 

[Thunderman101]

Hunter clearly wins this. Voting Hunter FRA.

I'm just arguing for the fun of it idc if the hunter wins this lol.

 

[Thunderman101]

And I love how people ignore the constantly shifting arguments of the hunter side, as well as their lack of appeal to provide scans.

 

[Kachon123]

And I love how in every thread where a Roblox character loses you immediately accuse the other side of underhanded tactics without fail. Very classy.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Hunter clearly wins this. Voting Hunter FRA.

counted

 

[Thunderman101]

And I love how in every thread where a Roblox character loses you immediately accuse the other side of underhanded tactics without fail. Very classy.

Dude, you are doing the definition of an underhanded tactic. In the Steve threwd you're saying that he can ressurect, but the justification is "he can respawn after being killed". You know the justification is shit and wrong, I know it. But you're rulesharking on the shaky definition that it's there.

 

[Kachon123]

Point proven I guess?

 

[Thunderman101]

Point proven I guess?

Dude, you're using the justification for an ability you know Steve doesn't have on the justification that it's there even though you damn well know he doesn't have it. That's the definition for an underhanded tactic and saying "heh, point proven!" instead of addressing my argument is not helping your case

 

[Kellex]

Why tf are we talking about Steve here???

 

[Keeweed]

Thinking about a symbol in your head, and having someone in your mind notice, is not an ability in the normal sense no. Plus if that connection is severed why would the moon presence not assume the player is dead and reset. The moon presence isn’t a process, it’s a guy that needs you.