A Hunters grasp| The Hunter (Bloodborne) vs The Player (Slap battles) | [10-2-0] (Concluded)

[Thunderman101]

Speech to text sorry..

I feel like disregarding my attempt to create a comprehensive argument on why I think slap wins as a desperate attempt to switch the votes is not only an ad hominem, but incredibly rude. If someone can give me scans of the moon presence itself forcefully reviving the hunter when he's incapped instead of dead without the hunter intitwtiing it I will gladly stop arguing that's all youd need to topple my argument

You're welcome to leave this thread any time. In fact I'd rather have you stayed gone

 

[DaReaperMan]

You're welcome to leave this thread any time. In fact I'd rather have you stayed gone

Then don't quote me if you don't want me around, Thunder. I am 5% through making a character who has over a thousand ******* spells in his arsenal spread across more sources than Slap has gloves, I could not care less about muh big long "please stamina debate me" shit, and giving that thing a skim, literally nothing new is said that wasn't already said across the over 300 other posts on the thread. Ya just worded it differently. There isn't much difference between "I don't give an FDA-Certified ****" and "I don't give a rat's ass", it's just a different way of saying the same thing. You invited Sassy Reaper and you got Sassy Reaper, and then you complain when you get him. Lovely.

Go make a match against JoJo if you want to debate in a wall of text.

Also disrespected is better than Hell's greatest dad

I'd rather not hear an irritating voice screeching in my ear for an entire song, TBH.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

1.How can slap counter the moon presence revival?

Pretty simple, something like the flex or megarock will get the job done. They're transmutation that doesn't technically kill the user, as well as power nulling them so hunter can't force himself to revive. The player being killed and their body dissapearing after transmutatingg in slaps verse can be equated
to game mechanics, as not only do the banners for flex and megarock directly contradict it (the litterql obtainment for megarock is to stay as a rock for 10 hours, and the banner shows a transmutated person. As for flex, the banner shows a golden throne made of flexed people which wouldn't be possible if the bodies dissapeared instantly). The hunter would not be able to force himself to revive due to powernull, and while he does resist transmuation, he cannot resist the actual effect, he can slow and even prevent himself from turning into it sure (which wouldn't be able to do cause of powernull), but he can't actually stop himself from being partially transmutated, and only stops himself from being fully due to actively fighting ng against it.

Wont work, the moon presence would just rewind time if the hunter gets transmuted and has done so before

Another thing I want to point out is that it's the moon presence that's rewinding time not slap and all the support is for Hunter have tried to that the moon peasants can revive Hunter while he's incapacitated and not just when he's dead. I've repeatedly asked for scans of this and just get annoyed when my topic deflected back at me, which I find to be really upsetting. One of the supporters said and it's probably there, but I don't feel like booting up to get the scans so you just going to have to trust me which for obvious reasons I feel like that's not valid.

Its literally on his profile

2.But slap has no combat style

Yes, they actually do, it's just difficult to decipher. Let's go over this peice by price

1.Slaps combat experience

Slap is a warrior to say the least. While nowhere as skilled as the hunter , they've fought master swordsman (swordighters glove obtainment), entities that have existed since the stone age (the eternal bob), beings with knowledge of timeless beings (dodecahedron Dave). And etc

Show any semblance of lore or any cutscenes of this happening.

Now weekly has tried to argue that because it's not cutscenes based, it doesn't count, so he's basically saying that if the story based gameplay doesn't have cutscenes it won't count. I don't think I have to explain how many verses would be kicked off if we did that.

If they would get kicked off then they deserve to be kicked off

The funny thing is, slap actually does have a combat style, in the official slap battles trailer, the player can be seen doing what other players do in game mostly, jumping, flicking and trying to slap their opponent. This is an official trailer, (timestamp is 0:17) and if the other side says it doesn't count, I want to point out that dareaper man in a previous thread tried to argue the same problems with slap don't apply to someone like Steve because at least they have trailers, sooo.

The trailer you posted is just characters using random gloves. That is the opposite of a combat style.

Another thing they've argued is slap cant pick whatever he would in his arsenal, because there are 250 options. However, considering how battle experienced slap is, we need to assume he at least has common sense. You see, theain point of slpa battles is to knock people into the void, on top of this, the value we scale slap to us no selled by everyone in his verse. Most Gloves are meant to kill by knocking people off the map or are just straight up useless, so during a fight in New york city (SBA), I don't see why slap would pick the knock back glove instead of the you die glove (hyperbole). And to back this up:

1:there is an entire game mode to seperate one shots from non one shots, so the player would have a general idea of his most potent gloves, which includes the flex.
2.slap would likely use the one shots as he considers the hunter to be equal to him is what would most likely happen. There are several game modes and slap battles. Will you 1b1 someone and they're shown to be equal to you several times like the slap tournament and the default only arena. So during another one again was a seemingly normal player. I don't see why slap would not just do something like use his one shots
3. In the slap battles menu there are there's a priority in which gloves decide to go first and which ones decide to go last. So there's paid gloves. Then it makes a bad gloves and regular gloves. One of the gloves that slap can use to transmutate is called custom which is basically mega Rock but you can choose what the rock looks liek. It's one of the first ones that'll pop up so he's going to be immediately alluded to it

You are applying human-chosen loadouts to a character that has no reason to choose them. This is no different from if i were to argue that the Hunter has 'common sense' so he would automatically use a minmaxxed meta weapon that would just oneshot Slap from across the battlefield. Slap has no character and no standard battle tactic, so you cannot viably argue that he would lead with any one weapon in particular.

3.hunter has no consistent way to put down slap

So another thing I want to bring up is that the hunter has no realistic way to put down the slap efficiently with a slap eventually uses one of his one shots for the reason stated above.

Stop has mid-wegen and can survive like limbs. Blown off pretty much everything except his torso and can survive those without skin (see beatdown and smiler glove). Well the hunter does have mid regen addiction. I mean low mid. It's not necessarily going to be able to disable slap due to his regeneration being much more potent. While the hunter is more skilled in close combat, he would actively need to skin slap alive in order to effectively put him down for good is going to take at least a couple seconds to do that and by the time the hunter is starting to get his groove on so I can just use something like elude to instantly teleport out of there which takes 2 to 3 seconds to maximum in order to use. So no the hunter cannot just get slapped in a close combat corner and be done with it. Slap also has gloves that can effectively instantly heal in the full HP towards attack reflect (see the elgato glove). And while there is something that could put down slap for good in the hunter's inventory like his regeneration negation (which el gato wouldn't be affected by and is only low mid), she wouldn't necessarily be able to use them first. And like I said, even if you argue he use them first by then, I'm pretty sure slap will be able to get his one shots out first. the only thing that can immediately really affect the slap majorly is blood letter and if slab gets into close combat with Hunter starts to get hurt. Realize is this guy can hurt him and teleports away with a elude before the hunter can get rid of him and he's not going to get close until absolutely necessary without using something like a stun like time stop or stun glove because he knows that he can hurt him and most people can't usually hurt him so I'm pretty sure that would spook him off a little. So yeah, the blood lighter does have madness manipulations but it's in a very short range so I don't really think that the hunter would be able to get that often time before slap can do his thing. All he needs is like time stop then Flex glove or just camp on his invulnerable mega Rock until the hunter touches it and gets transmutated.

ANy one attack from the Hunter would kill Slap. The Hunter has Low-Godly regen nullification.

They've also asked me to prove that the transmutation has last forever. This is a really weird argument because well first of all there was enough transmutation for them to make a throne. So obviously it's going to last for a very long time. There's absolutely no indication that they would turn back. And asking me to prove that the transmutation doesn't eventually wear off when it shows no signs of doing so is like asking me to prove unicorns dont exist.

I hope I've addressed everything on why I think John slap wins. If you have any questions then you can just ask me and I'll provide an explanation.

You havent addressed anything, youve just regurgitated the same points youve been arguing the entire thread without acknowledging why theyre wrong or any of the things that have been brought up debunking them

 

[Thunderman101]

Wont work, the moon presence would just rewind time if the hunter gets transmuted and has done so before

Its literally on his profile

Show any semblance of lore or any cutscenes of this happening.

If they would get kicked off then they deserve to be kicked off

The trailer you posted is just characters using random gloves. That is the opposite of a combat style.

You are applying human-chosen loadouts to a character that has no reason to choose them. This is no different from if i were to argue that the Hunter has 'common sense' so he would automatically use a minmaxxed meta weapon that would just oneshot Slap from across the battlefield. Slap has no character and no standard battle tactic, so you cannot viably argue that he would lead with any one weapon in particular.

ANy one attack from the Hunter would kill Slap. The Hunter has Low-Godly regen nullification.

You havent addressed anything, youve just regurgitated the same points youve been arguing the entire thread without acknowledging why theyre wrong or any of the things that have been brought up debunking them

Ok guess we're doing this. I'll respond to each of your points individually

1.then as I asked before, provide scans of it being in incap and not death, that's all you need to do
2.same as the first point
3i showed the official trailer and even gave a timestamp (0:18). People have used trailers to argue for Alex and Steve so I don't see why this isn't fair game.
4.Not relevant to the debate just about profiles so I'll ignore it
5.I gave a timestamp 0:17
6. I am not arguing that slap would use a very complex build, I am arguing that he would likely use his strongest weapons first, its not as complex as what your referencing. False equivalence. It's unfortunate Roblox games work like this but I can't control it, you just gotta work with what you get.
7. You addimeted early in the thread that it was you can't come back after death resurrection and not actively hurting the regeneration. There's also the fact that the hunter has to kill slap in less than 2 seconds before he can teleport out of there

 

[Thunderman101]

The former, but he can null up to Low-Mid in combat with Numbing Mist

Don't even try to deny my seventh point. This is what @Arkansalter2 said to what u replied with above

Does it stop people from healing back up after death or does the regen neg work via "haha I hit you, you can't regen anymore"
Because mind you, if it's the latter, El Gato takes care of that by a mile.

 

[Thunderman101]

Wont work, the moon presence would just rewind time if the hunter gets transmuted and has done so before

Its literally on his profile

Show any semblance of lore or any cutscenes of this happening.

If they would get kicked off then they deserve to be kicked off

The trailer you posted is just characters using random gloves. That is the opposite of a combat style.

You are applying human-chosen loadouts to a character that has no reason to choose them. This is no different from if i were to argue that the Hunter has 'common sense' so he would automatically use a minmaxxed meta weapon that would just oneshot Slap from across the battlefield. Slap has no character and no standard battle tactic, so you cannot viably argue that he would lead with any one weapon in particular.

ANy one attack from the Hunter would kill Slap. The Hunter has Low-Godly regen nullification.

You havent addressed anything, youve just regurgitated the same points youve been arguing the entire thread without acknowledging why theyre wrong or any of the things that have been brought up debunking them

Also YOU of all people getting annoyed when someone refused to admit they're wrong is the funniest thing I've seen in a while. Anything weekly has to say will likely be responded to tommorow. If you're watching this I just request you take a look at my large paragraph thing before coming to a final verdict

 

[Thunderman101]

On his profile it says the moon presence will constantly revive the hunter if they are KILLED. Not incapped, Killed

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ok guess we're doing this. I'll respond to each of your points individually

1.then as I asked before, provide scans of it being in incap and not death, that's all you need to do
2.same as the first point

Reaper already did

3i showed the official trailer and even gave a timestamp (0:18). People have used trailers to argue for Alex and Steve so I don't see why this isn't fair game.
5.I gave a timestamp 0:17

Yes and its literally him just using random shit

6. I am not arguing that slap would use a very complex build, I am arguing that he would likely use his strongest weapons first, its not as complex as what your referencing.

You have no evidence that he would use his strongest weapons first.

False equivalence. It's unfortunate Roblox games work like this but I can't control it, you just gotta work with what you get.

Yes you gotta work with what yuo get. So when you have nothing like this, you go off the assumption that they will not use any one thing over the other. Thats how it works on this website. If you dont like it make a CRT.

7. You addimeted early in the thread that it was you can't come back after death resurrection and not actively hurting the regeneration.

No, it is low-godly regeneration negation. Literaly on his profile

There's also the fact that the hunter has to kill slap in less than 2 seconds before he can teleport out of there

Which he's fully capable of doing

On his profile it says the moon presence will constantly revive the hunter if they are KILLED. Not incapped, Killed

That is incorrect

 

[Thunderman101]

Reaper already did

Yes and its literally him just using random shit

You have no evidence that he would use his strongest weapons first.

Yes you gotta work with what yuo get. So when you have nothing like this, you go off the assumption that they will not use any one thing over the other. Thats how it works on this website. If you dont like it make a CRT.

No, it is low-godly regeneration negation. Literaly on his profile

Which he's fully capable of doing

That is incorrect

1. No he did not, he provided scans of the hunter coming back from death because i made a spelling error in the scans i asked.
2.No Its not look at the timestamp. To back my point up even more, the character staring is guide, a character in the story whos constantly being hunted, look at the poster on the glove of the player flicking back and forth. You can make an argument for it being can
3.I am literally saying an experienced warrior would likley use his strongest weapons first. Not to mention my whole argument about the void and how theres no void here. Theres literalluy a whole gamemode that seperates the one shots from the non one shots.
4.Not exactly, one shot gloves are expressed as being strong in the story context, look at the guy saying overcringe, its a refrence to a one shot named overkill
5.Then why did you directly contradict yourself earlier. You said it was you cant come back after you die negation, not regeneration negation. From my understanding in the example he cant stop the beasts from regenerating, just from getting back up when he lands a good hit, which he would have to do in 2 seconds.
6.Prove it
7.Immortality (Types 2, 4 & 8; Able to function unimpeded after receiving injuries as severe as being impaled through the skull and torso and having organs ripped out.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Hunter_(Bloodborne)#cite_note-Visceral-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a> Reliant on the Moon Presence and the Hunter's Dream,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Hunter_(Bloodborne)#cite_note-Hunter's_Dream-7"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Hunter_(Bloodborne)#cite_note-Hunter's_Mark-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a> the Moon Presence will constantly revive the Hunter if they are killed)

 

[AyOgUyS]

Hunter FRA but I may change my vote later

 

[Thunderman101]

weeklys rebbutals are him stating things that are false about the hunter, i repetably ask for proof of the hunter being revived from incap and yet he ignores it. He literally said that the hunter dosent come back from being killed and incapped so hes just straight up lying, yet he still gets votes? I honestly give up, not gonna reply to this unless someone asks me something or weekly replies. Not trying to sound toxic, just frustrated

 

[Thunderman101]

gonna bump my summary one last time

Why I think john slap wins



Apologies for my lack of scans, I'm on a phone and don't feel like switching tabs constantly. If you have questions about a lack of a source I will be happy to provide them



1.How can slap counter the moon presence revival?



Pretty simple, something like the flex or megarock will get the job done. They're transmutation that doesn't technically kill the user, as well as power nulling them so hunter can't force himself to revive. The player being killed and their body dissapearing after transmutatingg in slaps verse can be equated
to game mechanics, as not only do the banners for flex and megarock directly contradict it (the litterql obtainment for megarock is to stay as a rock for 10 hours, and the banner shows a transmutated person. As for flex, the banner shows a golden throne made of flexed people which wouldn't be possible if the bodies dissapeared instantly). The hunter would not be able to force himself to revive due to powernull, and while he does resist transmuation, he cannot resist the actual effect, he can slow and even prevent himself from turning into it sure (which wouldn't be able to do cause of powernull), but he can't actually stop himself from being partially transmutated, and only stops himself from being fully due to actively fighting ng against it.

Another thing I want to point out is that it's the moon presence that's rewinding time not slap and all the support is for Hunter have tried to that the moon peasants can revive Hunter while he's incapacitated and not just when he's dead. I've repeatedly asked for scans of this and just get annoyed when my topic deflected back at me, which I find to be really upsetting. One of the supporters said and it's probably there, but I don't feel like booting up to get the scans so you just going to have to trust me which for obvious reasons I feel like that's not valid.



2.But slap has no combat style

Yes, they actually do, it's just difficult to decipher. Let's go over this peice by price

1.Slaps combat experience

Slap is a warrior to say the least. While nowhere as skilled as the hunter , they've fought master swordsman (swordighters glove obtainment), entities that have existed since the stone age (the eternal bob), beings with knowledge of timeless beings (dodecahedron Dave). And etc

Now weekly has tried to argue that because it's not cutscenes based, it doesn't count, so he's basically saying that if the story based gameplay doesn't have cutscenes it won't count. I don't think I have to explain how many verses would be kicked off if we did that.

The funny thing is, slap actually does have a combat style, in the official slap battles trailer, the player can be seen doing what other players do in game mostly, jumping, flicking and trying to slap their opponent. This is an official trailer, (timestamp is 0:17) and if the other side says it doesn't count, I want to point out that dareaper man in a previous thread tried to argue the same problems with slap don't apply to someone like Steve because at least they have trailers, sooo.

Another thing they've argued is slap cant pick whatever he would in his arsenal, because there are 250 options. However, considering how battle experienced slap is, we need to assume he at least has common sense. You see, theain point of slpa battles is to knock people into the void, on top of this, the value we scale slap to us no selled by everyone in his verse. Most Gloves are meant to kill by knocking people off the map or are just straight up useless, so during a fight in New york city (SBA), I don't see why slap would pick the knock back glove instead of the you die glove (hyperbole). And to back this up:

1:there is an entire game mode to seperate one shots from non one shots, so the player would have a general idea of his most potent gloves, which includes the flex.
2.slap would likely use the one shots as he considers the hunter to be equal to him is what would most likely happen. There are several game modes and slap battles. Will you 1b1 someone and they're shown to be equal to you several times like the slap tournament and the default only arena. So during another one again was a seemingly normal player. I don't see why slap would not just do something like use his one shots
3. In the slap battles menu there are there's a priority in which gloves decide to go first and which ones decide to go last. So there's paid gloves. Then it makes a bad gloves and regular gloves. One of the gloves that slap can use to transmutate is called custom which is basically mega Rock but you can choose what the rock looks liek. It's one of the first ones that'll pop up so he's going to be immediately alluded to it

Speaking of the menu...

3.hunter has no consistent way to put down slap

So another thing I want to bring up is that the hunter has no realistic way to put down the slap efficiently with a slap eventually uses one of his one shots for the reason stated above.

Stop has mid-wegen and can survive like limbs. Blown off pretty much everything except his torso and can survive those without skin (see beatdown and smiler glove). Well the hunter does have mid regen addiction. I mean low mid. It's not necessarily going to be able to disable slap due to his regeneration being much more potent. While the hunter is more skilled in close combat, he would actively need to skin slap alive in order to effectively put him down for good is going to take at least a couple seconds to do that and by the time the hunter is starting to get his groove on so I can just use something like elude to instantly teleport out of there which takes 2 to 3 seconds to maximum in order to use. So no the hunter cannot just get slapped in a close combat corner and be done with it. Slap also has gloves that can effectively instantly heal in the full HP towards attack reflect (see the elgato glove). And while there is something that could put down slap for good in the hunter's inventory like his regeneration negation (which el gato wouldn't be affected by and is only low mid), she wouldn't necessarily be able to use them first. And like I said, even if you argue he use them first by then, I'm pretty sure slap will be able to get his one shots out first. the only thing that can immediately really affect the slap majorly is blood letter and if slab gets into close combat with Hunter starts to get hurt. Realize is this guy can hurt him and teleports away with a elude before the hunter can get rid of him and he's not going to get close until absolutely necessary without using something like a stun like time stop or stun glove because he knows that he can hurt him and most people can't usually hurt him so I'm pretty sure that would spook him off a little. So yeah, the blood lighter does have madness manipulations but it's in a very short range so I don't really think that the hunter would be able to get that often time before slap can do his thing. All he needs is like time stop then Flex glove or just camp on his invulnerable mega Rock until the hunter touches it and gets transmutated.

(Proof that they said the scans are probably there but just trust me bro).

They've also asked me to prove that the transmutation has last forever. This is a really weird argument because well first of all there was enough transmutation for them to make a throne. So obviously it's going to last for a very long time. There's absolutely no indication that they would turn back. And asking me to prove that the transmutation doesn't eventually wear off when it shows no signs of doing so is like asking me to prove unicorns dont exist.

I hope I've addressed everything on why I think John slap wins. If you have any questions then you can just ask me and I'll provide an explanation.

 

[Deadguy999]

Yes and its literally him just using random shit

Isn’t hunter a player too? How can one assume he choose anything over the other stuff like how you said slap would?

 

[Thunderman101]

Just a question isn’t hunter a player too? How can one assume he choose anything over the other stuff too?

im not even sayign that slap would use anything too specific. Just that he would use his strongest weapons (his one shtos), first. Theres a whole gamemode seperating one shots and non one shots so i dont see why he wouldnt know what ones they are

https://roblox-slap-battles.fandom.com/wiki/Slap_Battles_-_NO_ONESHOT_GLOVES

 

[Naito-desu]

Hunter FRA

 

[Thunderman101]

Hunter FRA

could you at least provide reasoning, ive expalined several times and rebbuted weekly to the point where he deadass lied about the hunter. I really dont understand how hes getting votes and this is starting to feel like an fra train

 

[Thunderman101]

A list of the weekly things that have been claimed with no proof

1.The hunter can kill someone with mid regen in less than 2 seconds
2.The hunter can come back from being incapped
3.I showed no timestamp for the slap fightstyle (0:18 of the trailer)

I literally said that his profile said the moon presence only helps the hunter if he gets killed. Weekly quite literally replied with "that is incorrect". I gave a direct quote from the profile and he hasnt replied and is still getting votes. Ive taken the time to get all my arguments compiled so id like a proper rebbutal which isint just people claiming things with a lack of proof. I know i dont have scans either but i am happy to provide them

 

[Thunderman101]

also since no one bumped yet bump

Saying my summarization yet again

gonna bump my summary one last time

 

[Keeweed]

Isn’t hunter a player too? How can one assume he choose anything over the other stuff like how you said slap would?

Because bloodborne as a game has set mechanics that dictate how you are supposed to play. Fast and aggressive while abusing enemy weaknesses when they find them. That’s the point of the game. If they see slap regenerate they would go for the mist, since the mist doesn’t work they would go for status effects including madness which will literally explode slaps head the half second he grazes it.

Slaps going for kill moves is likely, but the hunter can resurrect most of them and thus slaps has like six weapons before the hunter gets to bloodletter and slaps dies horribly. And this is being generous assuming the magic weapons don’t explode him or the elemental weapons don’t kill him. The Hunter’s heat resistance scales to lightning

 

[Thunderman101]

Because bloodborne as a game has set mechanics that dictate how you are supposed to play. Fast and aggressive while abusing enemy weaknesses when they find them. That’s the point of the game. If they see slap regenerate they would go for the mist, since the mist doesn’t work they would go for status effects including madness which will literally explode slaps head the half second he graces it.

Slaps going for kill moves is likely, but the hunter can resurrect most of them and thus slaps has like six weapons before the hunter gets to bloodletter and slaps dies horribly. And this is being generous assuming the magic weapons don’t explode him or the elemental weapons don’t kill him. The Hunter’s heat resistance scales to lightning

Yes but, all slap has to do is something like timestop, and petrification. Thats it, hunters ressurection is helpfull but i doubt slap would get close when he escapse the hunter close combat, as in his verse getting hurt is very very rare. Best case scenario, hunter uses his weapon, slap gets away, and then slap might decide to go in, but only with a stun like bind. I know he dosent have a character, but he knows several combat technuqies so we neeed to assume he knows things like disarming his opponent, avoiding attacks, etc

 

[Keeweed]

If the petrification doesn’t kill him, the hunter can thinking about the charm and let the moon presence take them. If it does kill him, the moon presence needs him and brings him back

 

[Keeweed]

Also being very generous with petrification gg when the hunter can be started with the bloodletter and instantly win

 

[Thunderman101]

from the trailer, slaps main fighting style is jumping up, flicking and trying to avoid the opponent while slapping at the same time. Theres only a handfull of gloves that are really one shots (half the gloves in one shot mode are ones that just knock you into the void, and in a scenario like this slap wouldnt use gloves that knock you into the void because there is no void)

Yes but, all slap has to do is something like timestop, and petrification. Thats it, hunters ressurection is helpfull but i doubt slap would get close when he escapse the hunter close combat, as in his verse getting hurt is very very rare. Best case scenario, hunter uses his weapon, slap gets away, and then slap might decide to go in, but only with a stun like bind. I know he dosent have a character, but he knows several combat technuqies so we neeed to assume he knows things like disarming his opponent, avoiding attacks, etc

The gloves are:

• Reaper 3,500 (Void)
• Killstreak 5,000 (Void)
• Sbeve 44,000 (easy incon)
• Doomsday 45,500 (Void)
• Error 50,000
• God's Hand 65,000 (Void, but good for stuns)
• The Flex 100,000
• OVERKILL 450
• bus
  
  (Void)
• bob
  
• Detonator
  
  (Void)
• Link
  
• Leash
  
  (void)
• Berserk
  
  (Void)
• Psycho
  
  (Void)
• rob
  

so like you said, slap has like 6 gloves. But if he uses anything other than the flex first and realizes hgunters isint gonna die, heel just sue something like flex to incap him

 

[Thunderman101]

Also being very generous with petrification gg when the hunter can be started with the bloodletter and instantly win

yes but theres no evidence to say the hunter would start with bloodletter. ive explained several times why slap would start with his. Also bloodletter can be dodged, i heard the madness manip was aoe but asked for clips and got none

 

[Thunderman101]

If the petrification doesn’t kill him, the hunter can thinking about the charm and let the moon presence take them. If it does kill him, the moon presence needs him and brings him back

??? I think you made a spelling error, what do you mean thinking about the charm. Also if this has anything to do with any sort of ability the petrification has passive power null sooo

 

[Thunderman101]

and so far ive asked for several clips of the hunter being able to revived from being incapped and not dead. Ive been ignored every single time

??? I think you made a spelling error, what do you mean thinking about the charm. Also if this has anything to do with any sort of ability the petrification has passive power null sooo

It does not kill him, it incaps him

 

[Thunderman101]

if you wanna see slaps fighting style just search up slap battles trailer 2024, and go to 0:18. I know its not much to go off but its an offical trailer, and i feel its very fair to do this especially since alex and steve has people arguing for them using their trailers so this is entirley fair game. ive pinged people who have voted and asked them to take a look at my summary as i feel my points have been scattered

 

[Thunderman101]

Also being very generous with petrification gg when the hunter can be started with the bloodletter and instantly win

i dont see how this works. The hunter in close combat would have to kill slap in less tham 2 seconds. I understand that slaps uncharacteristics dont really help but he does have some semblance of a fighting style in the trailer. Slap would likley use his one shots because theyre his strongest weapons. And i asked weekly and reaper several times to provide scans of hunter comming back from incap, not death, and got nothing back. Timestop plus petrefication is an instant gg, and weekly has straight up lied several times.

1.He claimed the hunter could kill someone with type 2 immortality in less than 2 seconds before they teleport out while they fight back
2.He claimed that the hunter could come back from incap yet showed no scans
3.He calimed slap wouldnt use his strongest weapon first yet claimed that the hunter would use bloodletter fast for an instant gg
4.He said the trailer i showed him showed random scans when i provided an exact timestamp
5.He said i was incorrect when i said the hunter can only be revived by the moon presence after being killed, and when i said the profile contradicts him he just never replied to me

reaper even said the hunter probably could, but he didnt feel like getitng it, and i dont even have to explain how that dosent work.
when i tried to summarize my points, he called mee desperate and made fun of me

 

[Deadguy999]

mechanics

Alr who said slap battle has no play style? This dude tells you how to play the game. But it’s just that he’s removed. Well, not entirely. In the lore, he is just dead and his dead body is in the game

 

[Thunderman101]

If the petrification doesn’t kill him, the hunter can thinking about the charm and let the moon presence take them. If it does kill him, the moon presence needs him and brings him back

one mroe thing i want to add.

Hunter FRA

So because his opponent shows the ability to fight hes gonna pull out the one weapon that can conviently instantly kill his opponent (that he dosent know would kill), despite him having no prior knowledge and slaps just gonna not fight back? I do agrree with you on the profile that needs to be reworked. Saying he would use one ashots first because in the story and dialouge one shots are displayed as being strong



In this context, theyre refrencing overcringe, another word in the community for overkill, a glove players get frustrated by due to it being strong. This is offical story content.
Theres also a whole mode that seperates one shots from non one shots, so slap would know what to use. Combine that with the fact that most of the "one shots", are only one shots because they throw your opponent into the void (which dosent exist in this context). I dont see how slap wouldnt use the ones that one shot that arent void relate because there is no void in this context.

When this match is over i plan on revamping slaps profile

 

[Keeweed]

yes but theres no evidence to say the hunter would start with bloodletter. ive explained several times why slap would start with his. Also bloodletter can be dodged, i heard the madness manip was aoe but asked for clips and got none

It is an aoe that has more range than slaps you can just look up a weapon’s showcase it would take two seconds.
Also the hunter has a reason to go for the particular weapon that works and even random its a 1/12 chance. Slaps has 1/100.

Also if you are counting bfr slaps, the hunter can teleport across worlds and dream worlds. He’ll be back. For petrification the hunter can just think on the hunter’s mark and be back. So slaps pretty much has to bfr him cartoonishly far or knock him out. But the hunter has specifically woken up repeatedly from being knocked out in less than an hour and if it goes over the night the moon presence really needs him so would likely restart it (being very generous not saying he absolutely would because like there is no reason to ruin his own plans)

 

[Thunderman101]

It is an aoe that has more range than slaps you can just look up a weapon’s showcase it would take two seconds.
Also the hunter has a reason to go for the particular weapon that works and even random its a 1/12 chance. Slaps has 1/100.

Also if you are counting bfr slaps, the hunter can teleport across worlds and dream worlds. He’ll be back. For petrification the hunter can just think on the hunter’s mark and be back. So slaps pretty much has to bfr him cartoonishly far or knock him out. But the hunter has specifically woken up repeatedly from being knocked out in less than an hour and if it goes over the night the moon presence really needs him so would likely restart it (being very generous not saying he absolutely would because like there is no reason to ruin his own plans)

i already explained why it would be narowed down to the small haandfull oneshot glovs and not every glov. Do you thin k slaps gonna use the stick glove against someone he belives to equal to him.

Im not counting bfr, im taking about petrification. The ones i talkd about the void are ones that the glove is only usefull because it sends u to the void, and theres no void in this case so its pratically useless. Being petrified with powernull is not the same as being knocked out. Incap only needs 12 hours, and you need to show scans of the hunter being incapped and the moon prsence helping him. We cannot apply the story context of bloodborne into this of the moon presence needing hunter cause this is a versus battle. If you stand in a dungeon or something for 12 hours in bloodborne does the moon presence help you out?

 

[Keeweed]

So you are just going to keep ignoring the literal unstuck / escape incapacitation mechanic Bloodborne has with the hunter’s mark. The entire point is if the hunter is stuck they can think about the moon presence and get bailed out. If he’s power nulled the moon presence isn’t, if he is petrified and not dead he thinks about the moon presence and it gets him out. If he’s bfr’d, he thinks about the moon presence returns to the dream and comes back

 

[Thunderman101]

So you are just going to keep ignoring the literal unstuck / escape incapacitation mechanic Bloodborne has with the hunter’s mark. The entire point is if the hunter is stuck they can think about the moon presence and get bailed out. If he’s power nulled the moon presence isn’t, if he is petrified and not dead he thinks about the moon presence and it gets him out. If he’s bfr’d, he thinks about the moon presence returns to the dream and comes back

dosent he need to activley hold and use the item. hard to do that as a statue

 

[Thunderman101]

So you are just going to keep ignoring the literal unstuck / escape incapacitation mechanic Bloodborne has with the hunter’s mark. The entire point is if the hunter is stuck they can think about the moon presence and get bailed out. If he’s power nulled the moon presence isn’t, if he is petrified and not dead he thinks about the moon presence and it gets him out. If he’s bfr’d, he thinks about the moon presence returns to the dream and comes back

another thing i want to point out is that being petrified would just take all the hunters equipment like it does for gloves in slap battles. From my understanding the hunters mark is an item and not a built in abilit

 

[Deadguy999]

Also, the blood letter may not be able to just dura neg the player. It’s ability is

forces the target to process information incomprehensible to humans, such as information about the Great Ones and Eldritch Truth, which results in them going insane and often taking lethal damage to their psyche as well as physical damage

The player from slap battles had actually faced quite some madness and eldritch horrors before like the Elude Maze

Or The Null Zone, a place accessible after light and dark cancels out

Or that The player can enter The Limbo, only accessible when a paradox (Reverse vs Reverse) occurs. The Limbo has an area that is making the player go insane. The madness player endure was so intense there that it literally granted them access to the psycho glove (telekinesis power).

They also has insane willpower like completely not moving for 10 hours or fighting bob in complete darkness while also getting hallucinations and the world is black and white

Also, as long as the player still has some sanity left he can just reverse the madness with El Gato.

Finally, the information is just incomprehensible to normal humans and would kill them. To someone like the player who endured those mentioned, if he doesn’t resist it then the effect will still definitely be minimized

 

[Keeweed]

dosent he need to activley hold and use the item. hard to do that as a statue

The mark is in the mind

 

[Thunderman101]

The mark is in your mind

the wiki says its a consumable. And its hard to find a clip of it cause apparently its really bad to use for your player (even more reason why he wouldnt be using it). Could u show a clip perhps

 

[Thunderman101]

Also, the blood letter may not be able to just dura neg the player. It’s ability is

The player from slap battles had actually faced quite some madness and eldritch horrors before like the Elude Maze

Or The Null Zone, a place accessible after light and dark cancels out

Or that The player can enter The Limbo, only accessible when a paradox (Reverse vs Reverse) occurs. The Limbo has an area that is making the player go insane. The madness player endure was so intense there that it literally granted them access to the psycho glove (telekinesis power).

They also has insane willpower like completely not moving for 10 hours or fighting bob in complete darkness while also getting hallucinations and the world is black and white

Also, as long as the player still has some sanity left he can just reverse the madness with El Gato.

Finally, the information is just incomprehensible to normal humans and would kill them. To someone like the player who endured those mentioned, the effect will definitely be minimized

while your el gato part is correct, getting struck by lighting isint the same as madness manipulation

 

[Thunderman101]

Also, the blood letter may not be able to just dura neg the player. It’s ability is

The player from slap battles had actually faced quite some madness and eldritch horrors before like the Elude Maze

Or The Null Zone, a place accessible after light and dark cancels out

Or that The player can enter The Limbo, only accessible when a paradox (Reverse vs Reverse) occurs. The Limbo has an area that is making the player go insane. The madness player endure was so intense there that it literally granted them access to the psycho glove (telekinesis power).

They also has insane willpower like completely not moving for 10 hours or fighting bob in complete darkness while also getting hallucinations and the world is black and white

Also, as long as the player still has some sanity left he can just reverse the madness with El Gato.

Finally, the information is just incomprehensible to normal humans and would kill them. To someone like the player who endured those mentioned, the effect will definitely be minimized

while your el gato part is correct, getting struck by lighting isint the same as madness manipulation

So you are just going to keep ignoring the literal unstuck / escape incapacitation mechanic Bloodborne has with the hunter’s mark. The entire point is if the hunter is stuck they can think about the moon presence and get bailed out. If he’s power nulled the moon presence isn’t, if he is petrified and not dead he thinks about the moon presence and it gets him out. If he’s bfr’d, he thinks about the moon presence returns to the dream and comes back

bit confused here. While the hunters mark is passive, it is still doing the act of teleportation (ignoing the fact that his mind would be gold). And even if the hunter focuses his thoughts on the no longer there rune, it wont matter as the teleportating will still be nulled as its the hunter doing the initiation of the hunters mark. if i have my energy blast powers nullified and i still do the hand symbol to activate it, is an energy blast gonna come out?