Naruto: Shuriken & Kunai Dodging Recalcs

[Lilybitdun]

I had brought up this problem in this Q&A thread where several low tier feats of dodging shuriken and kunai are wanked by using bow speed for the thrown projectiles when it was chosen arbitrary

I gave plenty of time for KingTempest to update his blogs, over 4 months, but it still hasn't been done so I'm doing it myself

Here's a compiled blog of all these feats with a corrected projectile speed that just needs to be evaluated

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Lilybitdun/Naruto:_Shuriken_Recalcs

If this thread passes a follow up CRT will be made to update the low tier speed ratings

Agree (2): M3X_2.0 (Removing the og calcs, not adding the replacement. Comment), Floxy178 (Removing the old ones, Comment)
Disagree:
Neutral:

 

[Lilybitdun]

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Can we get some CGM attention on this?

 

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[M3X_2.0]

There is no point adding these calcs given the result. They already scale higher than what your calcs have.

 

[Lilybitdun]

There is no point adding these calcs given the result. They already scale higher than what your calcs have.

Did you even read the OP

The og calcs are faulty cause they assume bow level speed for the projectiles for no reason

Ofc the og calcs are higher cause they are wanked

 

[M3X_2.0]

Did you even read the OP

The og calcs are faulty cause they assume bow level speed for the projectiles for no reason

Ofc the og calcs are higher cause they are wanked

And did you read my reply? The calcs with these values are useless, the original ones aren't even in the verse page, the only one used is for Zaku who wouldn't even need it. You can "replace" the original ones with yours, but ultimately, they are all useless with these values as characters scale higher than that, so no point in adding superhuman calcs there. Just remove the Zaku one from his profile and scale him to Sakura.

 

[Lilybitdun]

And did you read my reply? The calcs with these values are useless, the original ones aren't even in the verse page, the only one used is for Zaku who wouldn't even need it. You can "replace" the original ones with yours, but ultimately, they are all useless with these values as characters scale higher than that, so no point in adding superhuman calcs there. Just remove the Zaku one from his profile and scale him to Sakura.

It's not just Zaku

Sasuke's first key also uses one of these faulty calcs for his Subsonic+ rating

Sasuke Uchiha (Part I)

Sasuke Uchiha is one of the last surviving members of Konohagakure's Uchiha clan. Since his childhood, he made it his goal to exact revenge against his older brother, Itachi, who had slaughtered their entire clan. He was assigned to Team 7, alongside Naruto Uzumaki, Sakura Haruno, and Kakashi...

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Subsonic+ (Comparable in speed to a held back Haku, who performed this feat during their battle)

Shino's part 1 speed also comes from Zaku's faulty subsonic+ calc

Just because the superhuman level calcs are useless doesn't mean they aren't a necessary replacement, them being useless is a scaling thing

The whole point of this is a blatant CALC issue, hence why it's a CALC group thread. These og calcs are blatantly false and were even self-admitted by the person who made em to be arbitrary

The whole "just scale em to sakura" would be covered in a follow up thread, like I DIRECTLY SAID IN THE OP

If this thread passes a follow up CRT will be made to update the low tier speed ratings

Now, would you agree that these og calcs need to be removed?

 

[Nierre]

(yes yes yes let's nuke Naruto speed next)

following

 

[M3X_2.0]

Just because the superhuman level calcs are useless doesn't mean they aren't a necessary replacement, them being useless is a scaling thing

It does, you can't just put superhuman speed calcs for subsonic characters, remove them but a downgrade is not necessary, Naruto has a subsonic feat, Shikamaru has his own.

Now, would you agree that these og calcs need to be removed?

From the profiles, yeah. Adding the new ones, no.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Also chill tf out now, quit with caps lock, and stop the stress.

 

[Lilybitdun]

It does, you can't just put superhuman speed calcs for subsonic characters, remove them but a downgrade is not necessary, Naruto has a subsonic feat, Shikamaru has his own.

I never suggested nerfing them to superhuman speed tho, already knew about the other subsonic feats

Just removing these faulty projectile dodging calcs

From the profiles, yeah. Adding the new ones, no.

Literally would just be supporting feats on the verse page but whatevs

Also chill tf out now, quit with caps lock, and stop the stress.

Mb, waiting for over a month for a response to relatively simple thread for a popular verse spiked my cortisol

 

[M3X_2.0]

I never suggested nerfing them to superhuman speed tho, already knew about the other subsonic feats

Just removing these faulty projectile dodging calcs

You can remove them and also add the Naruto calc to the verse page too cause it's not there, and any other calc used in profiles but not in the verse page.

Literally would just be supporting feats on the verse page but whatevs

Not really, they instantly jump to Hypersonic so I don't think it can be.

You can remove the calc from the profiles.

 

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[Lilybitdun]

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Recently found out that there's another shuriken dodging feat that uses bow level speed

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:KingTempest16/Sasuke_Swipes_Shuriken_(SSS)

 

[Lilybitdun]

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Updated the recalc blog with the sasuke feat

 

[Floxy178]

Idk who scales to what but removing old ones at least seems pretty straightforward.

 

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