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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Ichigo pls resist fate with your Bankai
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That will come out, so out of nowhere. The only way I see this happening is if they give him a "Almighty" version exclusive for him. 4th' pupil?Ichigo pls resist fate with your Bankai
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The things i would give to see this happen smh, cause he is like the only god tier with no relevant haxIchigo pls resist fate with your Bankai
Wtf do you mean that will come out from no where, it would make perfect sense
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AP merchant was getting hax folded in front of his girl, stop. I can't bear to watch ichigo getting clapped for the fourth time in a row in the next cour bro i just can't.AP >> hax
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CFYOW Kenpachi says Hi.
(Okay but yeah outside of the CFYOW trio + Ginjo's nuke attack you are right that Ichigo is the haxless god tier atm).
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surely you are not talking about ''i can cut anything'' zaraki kenpachi and ginjo is a bum when compared to actual god tiers (funny how cyfow lowkey implies this) and i don't talk about bums.
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universal zaraki ?
NeonTxme
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I might be hallucinating, and I cant rlly find the blog w my current wifi connection-
but wasnt a clock tower presented in the anime revision for reiyoku-sereireiti distance?
NeonTxme
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it was also mentioned Azashiro was trying to merge w Garganta...so that means 5D Zaraki and 5D FBB ichi, gg
universal zaraki ?
Soulking22334
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so it's a legit feat??
plus can you give me the scans of azashiro and zaraki cutting the walls of garganta
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What has been Ichigo's zanpakutou power from the beginning? What has been his moveset?
Is like saying, Goku, you were never a Saiyan, you're a Quincy! Now you have access to all this hax abilities! That will be your new powers, and never again do Kamehameha! Cringe.
NeonTxme
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forget abt allat lets make ichigo past supersonic firstLet‘s get the verse to 2-C first before we handle the Higher Dimensional stuff
NeonTxme
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his bankai was pretty much implied to be some kinda fate shattering thingy via both his monologue from vol23 (ch0 side-A) and all those buddhasim symbolisms, even yhwach mentioned that in the manga with those grain of sand anology when he explained the almighty and all its glory with statements like "you have changed the fate many times when I wasnt there now Im the fate itself come do smth to me yadayada"
We also know for a fact that Ichigo was having his False Bankai throughout the series, and his training in Reiyoku pretty much implied him gettting some new powers as he had SK powers injected in him for Ichibe to see his capabilities of transcending a Shinigami or not, there was even a scene where he gained a cross on his eyes and 4 pupils, sooo... Ion'no, its kubo being kubo ig.
NeonTxme
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I remember Arc once scaling Azashiro off destroying Dangai's walls and comparing it to Senna's blank energy, then he debunked the same feat via Brave Souls which gave us their position of fighting within the Dangai and not outside of it-- Also I have read a faulty translation from some random google drive, might not be 100% accurate
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he didnt have gran rey cero and blut vene in the beginning yet he has them now, so what is the point supposed to mean?
Who says the fate abilities needs to come from his quincy abilities?
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This is just wrong, Aizen never showed fate resistance, in fact he was even fate haxed by his own Hogyoku even after his transcendence, same for Ichigo. And Kototsu doesn't have any fate hax.
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Is Brave Souls considered canon? Even if it were canon, manga and novels can contain inconsistencies.
Soulking22334
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it's an easy work
Assuming that the satellite is in geo-stationary orbit and that the beam took 119 nanoseconds to reach the satellite, we find that the beam is traveling at the speed of light.
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"Novels, save me novels!!!"it's an easy work
Assuming that the satellite is in geo-stationary orbit and that the beam took 119 nanoseconds to reach the satellite, we find that the beam is traveling at the speed of light.
that's just a little bit more than being generous
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Getting the verse to FTl isn't really a problem, tbh
Soulking22334
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It's not really because the Ciro was presented in the story as an attack based on light
So, in this context, that makes perfect sense
What's the problem with using novels? They're legitimate.
Apollonir.Scale
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Regarding the statement in the Cero databook, what I heard was that it's made of light, not that it travels at the speed of light. I understand this is refuted by saying that being made of light doesn't mean it will travel at the speed of light.
Guacamolefletcher had a blog about this. I'll leave it here in case he finds something useful.
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Bleach: Brave Souls is not canon, but it's collab event with Bleach: Spirits are Forever with You is the closest we have to a full translation of the books, as far as I know.
Soulking22334
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It is literally described as light rays or flashes of light
You have to use mental gymnastics to claim that it isn't traveling at the speed of light
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Ceros are not light speed and were never presented as such
non sequitur
I'm just goofing around lol
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These are not shinigami/zanpakutou abilities. A. These are Hollow/Quincy abiliites. B. These are are fused abilities and the abilities of his zanpakuotu? Weird. But still doesn't give him hax.
Nobody mentioned that. But why would a shinigami's power change?
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I change my future every day, is called, making decisions.
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maybe get the verse definitively FTL before trying to make it universe level, bleach being universal ap but MHS speed is hilarious
im not a powerscaler but that sh** doesnt even sound right lmao
im not a powerscaler but that sh** doesnt even sound right lmao
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Average LEO Satellite distance = Mach 10500 or 0.012cit's an easy work
Assuming that the satellite is in geo-stationary orbit and that the beam took 119 nanoseconds to reach the satellite, we find that the beam is traveling at the speed of light.
Average MEO Satellite distance = Mach 184000 or 0.21c
Average GEO Satellite distance = Mach 347000 or 0.4c
Timeframe 0.3 seconds.
It is very easy to get Bleach above the laughable speed rating it has now.
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The game itself no. It's just that we don't have official translations for SAFWY and the game does a decent adaption of the story, so people use it instead of reading a half translated novel.
LEO = 55% = 160 km to 2,000 km
MEO = 10% = 2,000 km to 36,000 km
GEO = 35% = 35,786 km
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Average Distance = (0.55 * (160 + 2,000) / 2) + (0.10 * (2,000 + 36,000) / 2) + (0.35 * 35,786) = 15,019.1 km = 15,019,100 m
Time = 1 s
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Cero Speed = 15,019,100 m/s = 0.05c (Sub Rel+)
If u use the Bala multiplier:
Bala Speed = 0.05c * 20 = 1c (SOL)
Idk why this feat isn't on the verse page
PizzaDante67
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I used an average of 1000 km for LEO, 18,900 km for MEO and obviously 35,700 km for GEO.
Also, the average time to blink is 0.3 seconds. May i ask why you used 1 second as a timeframe?
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It's more accurate to also account for how many Satellites are LEO, MEO or GEO with the procentages giving in the site https://aerospace.csis.org/aerospace101/earth-orbit-101/
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Arc7Kuroi/Cien's_Cero -old accepted calc
Pretty sure VSBW almost never allows 0.3 seconds for "in the blink of an eye", you'd have far better luck with using 1 second
Soulking22334
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【虚閃】大虚が口から放つ、滅びの光線のこと。
It is literally described as a ray.
"flash of light"
"―というか今、誰かどさくさに紛れて弾って
ペッシェのツッコミは、最後まで口に出す事は疎か、頭の中で言い切る事すらできず、閃光と砂塵の中に掻き消された。"
They are described as beams or flashes of light in more than one situation
to deny that they are traveling at the speed of light is to act in bad faith
Humans can blink in 0.4 to 0.1 seconds. Yes, they can blink in 100 milliseconds.
An average person can blink in 100 milliseconds. What's the problem with that?
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I am pretty sure there is the title card statement of Senjumaru's reiatsu travelling from the soul king palace to the soul society and human world. So that could easily be FTL for the top tiers. The satellite feat with Arc's accepted end would be good for anyone who scales to or above Fullbring arc Kenpachi which includes Unohana ig.
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