All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Question! Both Dragon Ball Canon and Dragon Ball Toei shares the same worldview and setting, correct? So why is Toei Goku infinite speed for crossing the Afterlife which is located within Universe 7, but Canon Whis is only Massively FTL+ speed even though he can travel from Universe 7 to Universe 6 which is bigger in size???

This is all the fault of Bulma's fans who take her half-baked interpretation as if it were absolute truth in the work, regarding things like there being a center and the earth being on the edge of the universe.

 

[AguilaR202]

because pan blitzing grand priest is funny ngl

 

[Nullflowerblush]

This is all the fault of Bulma's fans who take her half-baked interpretation as if it were absolute truth in the work

I mean. They are, aren't they? Even in the Daizenshuu, Earth's solar system is stated to be "on the outskirts of the North Area", which confirms at least half of what Bulma claims. And the other half of her claims are never disputed by any reputable source—or by any source, in fact. They even give the audience a cute li'l visual to accompany her dialogue.

 

[Breadbear83]

I mean. They are, aren't they? Even in the Daizenshuu, Earth's solar system is stated to be "on the outskirts of the North Area", which confirms at least half of what Bulma claims. And the other half of her claims are never disputed by any reputable source—or by any source, in fact. They even give the audience a cute li'l visual to accompany her dialogue.

I mean, imagining the living universe as a pizza divided into 4 slices (each one a galaxy quadrants like the north galaxy) the solar system one just implies earth is on one of the borders that each slice has, which connects to another slice

The center of the universe (pizza) is where all the galaxy quadrants (pizza slices) connect, not the borders of 2 connected galaxy quadrants

Even the "earth being in the border of the universe" just says earths is within the circumference of the northern part of the "pizza", not if it's near at all to other galaxy quadrants

 

[Huesito88]

We're doing the pizza scaling thing again

 

[Darkmon_cns]

We're doing the pizza scaling thing again

Papa Murphy vs the hut

 

[Mbpoops]

 

[Nullflowerblush]

the solar system one just implies earth is on one of the borders that each slice has, which connects to another slice

Let's think Occam's razor for a second; the Daizenshuu 7 says Earth is on the "edge; end; outskirts" (はずれ hazure) of the North Area, and later Bulma reiterates and says Earth is on the "edge; very end; far end" (端っこ hashikko) of the universe, what is more likely—the latter statement, which has yet to be officially disputed, expands upon the idea of the previous statement, or the two very similar statements are completely unrelated in concept?

 

[MichaelCalistro]

Question!! Why does Super Full Power Saiyan 4 have higher multiplier than Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken x20 (204.8 million > 160 million)?! How did we get to this level of atrocity as well!?

 

[Breadbear83]

Let's think Occam's razor for a second; the Daizenshuu 7 says Earth is on the "edge; end; outskirts" (はずれ hazure) of the North Area, and later Bulma reiterates and says Earth is on the "edge; very end; far end" (端っこ hashikko) of the universe, what is more likely—the latter statement, which has yet to be officially disputed, expands upon the idea of the previous statement, or the two very similar statements are completely unrelated in concept?

They are somewhat connected, but the "outskirts" statement still can imply at the border/edge to another galaxy quadrant, but also at borders/edges of the circumference like bulmas says

Could be both, at the border of the universe (circumference of the galaxy quadrant and the universe) and at the border to another galaxy quadrant

Not that I'm arguing about bulmas statement, but they don't have to mean the exact same thing, I believe in bulmas statement, but not that the outskirts one has to mean the same

 

[Breadbear83]

Does anyone know the source of this?

Where did you find that? Could be just an unofficial Latin American media, there's a thousands of them so if it was then near 0 chance I'd find them

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Question!! Why does Super Full Power Saiyan 4 have higher multiplier than Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken x20 (204.8 million > 160 million)?! How did we get to this level of atrocity as well!?

We stacked the Golden Great Ape amp over Super Baby 2 despite him being the equivalent to SSJ3 Goku.

 

[Breadbear83]

We stacked the Golden Great Ape amp over Super Baby 2 despite him being the equivalent to SSJ3 Goku.

Wasn't base baby already stronger than ssj3 Goku? And I recall he saying that Goku didn't got stronger at all (before becoming great ape)

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Wasn't base baby already stronger than ssj3 Goku? And I recall he saying that Goku didn't got stronger at all (before becoming great ape)

Yeah Golden Great Ape was taken as like a 8x400 multiplier cause of that, then it was applied over the 8x400 that Super Baby 2 already is.

 

[supertomioka]

Question didn't piccolo destroy the moon earlier how was it still there before Vegeta arrived and how did Vegeta miss it

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Question didn't piccolo destroy the moon earlier how was it still there before Vegeta arrived and how did Vegeta miss it

Animators forgor

 

[Breadbear83]

Question didn't piccolo destroy the moon earlier how was it still there before Vegeta arrived and how did Vegeta miss it

Moon could had come back In the near whole year that Vegeta finally arrived at earth

Don't remember, but did Vegeta like point out the moon being missing? Isn't it just there not being a full moon for great ape happening?

If Vegeta did point the moon being missing, then that would be an animation error

 

[supertomioka]

Don't remember, but did Vegeta like point out the moon being missing? Isn't it just there not being a full moon for great ape happening?

Part of the reason why he created his "artificial moon" to turn ape

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Question didn't piccolo destroy the moon earlier how was it still there before Vegeta arrived and how did Vegeta miss it

The animators have become the Akira Toriyama of the world in terms of forgetting their own history.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Moon could had come back In the near whole year that Vegeta finally arrived at earth

Don't remember, but did Vegeta like point out the moon being missing? Isn't it just there not being a full moon for great ape happening?

If Vegeta did point the moon being missing, then that would be an animation error

In the manga the moon was gone

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Question didn't piccolo destroy the moon earlier how was it still there before Vegeta arrived and how did Vegeta miss it

Illusion wore off.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Oh, hey, genki is the "energy of all matter".

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Wait, who the **** told whichever dweeb made the Ki Manipulation page "Genki is the energy/life force that is projected in ki"??????

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Dragon Ball Lifting Strength Revision

This CRT is for revising Dragon Ball lifting strength based on the manga's direct lifting / weight / gravity-training progression, statements, and the like. The main goal here is straightforward: Dragon Ball's direct lifting strength progression is much lower than people would expect from how...

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LS is la ded

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

The funny thing if it goes through is that Kid Goku couldn't do this lol

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

The funny thing if it goes through is that Kid Goku couldn't do this lol

Nice picture

 

[SomebodyData]

Like before, I'd recommend working on arguments here first before posting them in the thread. Last time we almost got the thread moved back to staff-only because of some of the responses.

 

[Breadbear83]

The funny thing if it goes through is that Kid Goku couldn't do this lol

"I know it's literally the first chapter of the manga but trust bro is not up until long after that characters have superhuman LS"

 

[Fezzih_007]

The funny thing if it goes through is that Kid Goku couldn't do this lol

Not the worst DB CRT If we are being honest...

 

[Breadbear83]

Not the worst DB CRT If we are being honest...

Nah bro you gotta share those "worse" CRTs

 

[M3X_2.0]

Actually, yeah, I agree, I think Toriyama writing a lifting strength progress in the manga with stated values is wrong, I'd rather have Goku lifting a car, it's cooler. And yeah I agree the CRT is one of the worse.

Lmao yall are a joke.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Lmao yall are a joke.

You could try a little better than just basic ass sarcasm, 2/10.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Like before, I'd recommend working on arguments here first before posting them in the thread. Last time we almost got the thread moved back to staff-only because of some of the responses.

Tbh it is pretty weird that DB CRTs seem to be the only one held up to "Can't go past the first page" standard, cause practically every Hazbin, Deltarune, JJk CRTs have similar momentum and putting them as Staff Threads was never really even considered.

 

[M3X_2.0]

You could try a little better than just basic ass sarcasm, 2/10.

I actually tried harder with the thread, at least you can comment this time

 

[Baken384]

Dragon Ball Lifting Strength Revision

This CRT is for revising Dragon Ball lifting strength based on the manga's direct lifting / weight / gravity-training progression, statements, and the like. The main goal here is straightforward: Dragon Ball's direct lifting strength progression is much lower than people would expect from how...

vsbattles.com

LS is la ded

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

There ain't much you can respond with, besides Ig listing a compilation of all the dozen or so LS feats in every arc Ig?

Like less than Class 1 Pre-Saiyan Saga characters does contradict the Giant Piccolo flipping feat, Yajirobe throwing a boulder, Tao's pillar throw, hell the fodder Bear that Goku one-shots in like the first few chapters has a Class 25 feat.

But like still the whole weighted clothing/gravity training stuff is also pretty important to the plot, even if it contradicts literally every showing lol

So it's down to vibes really, do we like feats or stated values more? Which the wiki flip flops on anyway (See the Flash show vs JJK)

 

[KingTempest]

the flash has idiots as writers. jjk does not. different battles

 

[Breadbear83]

The less controversial thread starting as staff discussion, while the absurdly more controversial one starting as CRT

See things going the other way around with this CRT being changed to staff discussion

 

[Fezzih_007]

I actually tried harder with the thread, at least you can comment this time

I think the logic itself is fine. DB characters have shown considerable more lower LS feats when It comes to training. The Anti-feats are very much a problem.

Is like the Mach 20 Korosensei hardcap, which kills most of his High speed scaling.

But again, Dragon Ball is super incosistent with LS, so It mostly just vibes..

 

[SomebodyData]

Tbh it is pretty weird that DB CRTs seem to be the only one held up to "Can't go past the first page" standard, cause practically every Hazbin, Deltarune, JJk CRTs have similar momentum and putting them as Staff Threads was never really even considered.

I see where you're coming from and I don't mean to offend when I say this but, with those examples (most recently coming from the Deltarune thread) there were good arguments back and forth.

The last DB thread, admittedly had four pages but a good chunk of it wasn't really debate. And had some fairly 'interesting' comments if you go back to it.