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Raiden vs Kaneki
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raiden blitzes his ass
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How will it handle Low-High regen?
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Raiden has multiple revives, on board AI that analyzes dudes, and he can quantum duraneg in AOE or even vaporize him with some weapons like EMPs or lightning which are superior to emps that can instantly ash people.
Raiden's also well aware of regen as a problem, has built-in scanners that can detect life signals at a quantum scale so he will know immediately he isn't dead and is reforming, even if he takes damage, or is reduced to a puddle, and from there just link him as another unkillable asshole like Vamp and stop that from occuring which he has several ways to do so.
Such as the above, or worse, the bonk stick. And that's just the obvious shit.
Also Raiden is always going to be faster on the draw here, speed equal forbids loopholing, and unequal he gets omegablitzed, not withstanding Raiden has the funny 10x amp atop borderline time stop reaction amps.
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Unless dude can come back from quantum aoe or vaporization, or EE/BFR...
Raiden can do more than just cut people.
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Raiden's combat speed is FTL+. With acceleration, it's MFTL, right?
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Yeah, show me when that was his opening move against a non-cyborg.
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Currently. 10x, but he also has reactive amps that Doc notes makes it appear as if someone is nearly frozen in time. These are much shorter but aren't RM either.
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Uhhhhhh, all of MGS2/4/youth/and more?
Man don't ask if the scans are on the profile.
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Give me scans of him using it in MGR in the story. Give me scans of him using EE/BFR anywhere other than in the game mech.
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Kaneki regens
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Just to get turned into a tomato soup again and again until brobama can't regen anymore
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He attacked the Dragon with a shockwave while in a formless state. So consider ketchup using a nuclear bomb
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Uh, lad, buddy, you know the EE/BFR shit ONLY works on humanoids right? Like your question is built into the very mechanics of it.
Also nah nice try, if you actually read the profile you'd quickly find out Raiden is dangerously savvy and can and will use anything he has if it's optimal. Gotta be a few dozen statements and showings of that linked.
Also notice how you ignored half the options he has, why? Nobody said he leads with it, but he sure as hell will use it if dude starts coming back. And Raiden will always be quicker on that draw, can't even surprise him by not dying due to his updated radar.
Raiden can literally vaporize him or quantum duraneg. Puddle regen isn't helping. We are not even five posts in and you're already becoming repetitive and not explaining why, just asserting.
So how about this. Does Ken have multi-million degree heat res that's show to carbonize heat resistant characters in weaker forms and by this game is above the likes of stuff stated to instantly ash and vaporize people?
How about showing Ken can regen from a sub-atomic disintegration given Raiden can send HF waves out that can completely cover a large body
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Raiden still literally never uses this as an opening move. Show him at least trying it with Mistral, Wolf, Mr. INVINCIBLE, or Armstrong.
Show him chopping someone into atoms instead of slicing them into dozens of pieces.
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You played MGR? But what about the rest of the games? What about the codecs where they actually outline his canon fighting methods in that same game and different methods he agrees to do?
My words? Dude, this is all on the profile, I made sure if it. Instead of arguing blind, go read that first.
And not quite, you already argued Ken can one shot if given a chance.in fact you doubled down on it below.
Uh, lad, you know they ALL resist it right? Sucks for Ken but Ken doesn't have quantum resistance to a bunch of stuff. A single quickdraw dusts him. Against them it just chips away.
Also for one who said you played the game you're conveniently forgetting that Raiden LITERALLY opens up with it every fight, and at multiple points used lightning moves like thunderstrike or just amping himself with it in scripted QTEs, which lucky you, are all on profile, even made gifs for some, so read it instead of asking me to do your job for you.
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Brother, did you experience MGS with your eyes closed?
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I'm not arguing with Thunderclap and Blade Mode. I'm arguing with revivals, EE/BFR, and some of the tactics you mentioned, which were never part of the game's starting strategy.
I can clearly see that you've taken all the game mechanics and crammed them into the profile and default tactics, ignoring the game's narrative. But if that's what you've chosen, then I can't do anything about it.
If we take your words at face value, then Kaneki has no chance. Not because there are no physical ways to win, but because there's no way to execute them. Even if he theoretically kills Raiden, he'll revive and stomp him.
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Again, show me how he uses BFR/EE on Sundowner, Armstrong, and Monsoon. Why doesn't he use 100% guaranteed kill moves on enemies he wants to kill? It doesn't happen lol. So please don't tell me about his eyes being closed.
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Gotta get past those first dude.
Literally automatic as long as he has nanopaste. They're noted in Codec outright as something he has.
Read the profile instead of asking.
All on profile.
You're outright wrong actually, bonk stock is noted useful for quick title routes. And nice vague "tactics", which ones? Surely you don't mean basic attacks he literally uses that his foes all resist and Ken doesn't have that luxury?
Oh you mean the mechanics that are explained in depth in Codec and lore and acknowledged as canon?
You're ignoring both ironically enough.
You literally, on god, this thread asked why Raiden didn't do something like quantum AOE to the likes of Armstrong. They literally say he's immune, they all are, and he does anyway.
Of course not, you'd have to actually know what you're talking about first.
And yet you've argued past that and are continuing to argue.
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Should be closed, Kaneki's main win con from taking damage can't be applied here to Raiden being the faster character, so AD blitz amps aren't allowed. His swords heat value is also much higher than Kaneki's 30,000 c resistance. He also has electricity that scales far above in volts compared to what Kaneki is shown resisting.
It's probably hard to find matches where Raiden isn't stomping, but both being tier 7 doesn't make this match close if the dude can **** kaneki's regen and probably vaporize his whole body.
It's probably hard to find matches where Raiden isn't stomping, but both being tier 7 doesn't make this match close if the dude can **** kaneki's regen and probably vaporize his whole body.
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Kaneki can reconstitute his body from RC cells and function while in a state of liquid, he can't ******* come back from quantum shit
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Did they talk about BFR/EE resistance there?
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Wait does Raiden reduce literally the entirety of a person to such a level?
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Yeah uh, Raiden stomps I'd say. He just has so much shit, everything's on his profile.
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kaneki has AD and shockwaves as wincons
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I haven't played much from this verse, but going off his profile, this is what it says
- Durability Negation, Matter Manipulation & Vibration Manipulation (Quantum with HF weaponry: Disrupts atoms, causing electron clouds to shrink via quantum decoherence at the Planck scale, thus electrically severing the atomic binding)
Must I remind us what Arima did to this dude Kaneki, it looks very similar to what's happening in that gif.
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I know he can't. I'm not the dude who mentioned he just comes back thrice though.
Ong if you read the profile you would know there's like 5 statements exempting certain bosses and specifically souless machines from the effect
Like honest to god everytime you ask a question you just out that you're throwing words at the wall trying to catch something instead of fact checking, made quite evident you keep ignoring 90% of the problems anyhow but regardless... Like you gonna comment on anything else or just cling to the worst case scenario as if there isn't 10 layers of stuff to get past first?
Ask me something I didn't spend a month making sure was listed like come on, then I'll waste my time digging.
With some attacks yeah, he can make huge energy waves that just eat whatever they eat. Quickdraw is an obvious one.
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Which, according to the comments above, he doesn't use, since Raiden stops time, cuts it into quarks, erases it from reality and sends it to the BFRkaneki has AD and shockwaves as wincons
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I have to ask, why did the OP make this match? What about it was interesting, I don't think it has anything to do with their similar tiering considering Raiden can kill people far stronger than him due to his sword, or that he can blitz people even in equalized speed.
Why was this match made?
Why was this match made?
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Blade Mode is time dilation, the cuts are just normal swings. Also that's Sam. Who ironically gas sword beams but that's besides the point. Also actually scroll down to technique section my dude. Or god forbid the featbox.I haven't played much from this verse, but going off his profile, this is what it says
He has something called Blade Mode that can do this
- Durability Negation, Matter Manipulation & Vibration Manipulation (Quantum with HF weaponry: Disrupts atoms, causing electron clouds to shrink via quantum decoherence at the Planck scale, thus electrically severing the atomic binding)
Must I remind us what Arima did to this dude Kaneki, it looks very similar to what's happening in that gif.
If you wanna argue, do everyone a favor and don't strawman the literal hell out of everything.
Geez how disingenuous can you be? Like again, this is how I know you're not reading the profile, that or you deliberately misconstrued things, but either or. Time stop? Reactionary, also not time stop, don't twist words.
Bfr/EE? One or the other but you'd know that if you read.
Who said Raiden doesn't cut him first? He would, that was said, if you read. The problem is Raiden would know he isn't dead then use stuff that would work in response, given he's quicker he reacts first.
Why are you like this?
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Raiden has a win against a 5-A character and absolutely no one voted for the 5-A character.
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Id assume white hair, red eyes, black outfits, both lost their humanity in inverse ways, both wear masks, etc.
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