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Raiden vs Kaneki

Chariot190 said:
I know he can't. I'm not the dude who mentioned he just comes back thrice though.

Ong if you read the profile you would know there's like 5 statements exempting certain bosses and specifically souless machines from the effect 🗿

Like honest to god everytime you ask a question you just out that you're throwing words at the wall trying to catch something instead of fact checking, made quite evident you keep ignoring 90% of the problems anyhow but regardless... Like you gonna comment on anything else or just cling to the worst case scenario as if there isn't 10 layers of stuff to get past first?

Ask me something I didn't spend a month making sure was listed like come on, then I'll waste my time digging.

With some attacks yeah, he can make huge energy waves that just eat whatever they eat. Quickdraw is an obvious one.
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Show the Senator's BFR/EE resistance in his profile. I don't see it there.

Geez how disingenuous can you be? Like again, this is how I know you're not reading the profile, that or you deliberately misconstrued things, but either or. Time stop? Reactionary, also not time stop, don't twist words.

Your words about acceleration make it seem like everything is frozen in time. The gist of my message is clear. Don't say anything about disingenuous.


Bfr/EE? One or the other but you'd know that if you read.

Doesn't change the essence

Why are you like this?

You are asking the wrong questions
 
This match didn't need to be over a page, it's a brutal stomping, you can give Kaneki the entire Anteiku cast and he still dies with them.
 
Yeah Raiden does Ken OD bad.
Nik, don't even try against Chariot because Chariot is like one of the greatest raiden glazers of all time like you are with ken.
Only he argues better lmao.
 
NikHelton said:
Show the Senator's BFR/EE resistance in his profile. I don't see it there.
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Of course not he hasn't been updated, but you know who's profile has been?
The dude we're using here, and the scan is in there.
Why be willfully ignorant and ask shit you know the answer to?
NikHelton said:
Your words about acceleration make it seem like everything is frozen in time. The gist of my message is clear. Don't say anything about disingenuous.
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And I literally quote "borderline", I never once said it was actual time stop, I even explained what it entails, and if you read the profile you would know he has two and what it entails anyway.
NikHelton said:
Doesn't change the essence
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It does actually. It makes you objectively wrong, makes you come off as disingenuous and strawmanning intentionally if you knew, actively twisting what was said given nobody argued thst you just doubled up because???
Also proves you haven't bothered to parse the profile properly even slightly because this is explained and even shown.

Either you read it, or don't expect people to spoonfeed you.
NikHelton said:
You are asking the wrong questions
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I mean I asked a few questions, you ignored all of them and kept harping so idk what you expect here.
Foriaa said:
Cool, Raiden still fries him, it's kinda important to also account for the abilities both character have, not sure why their visual and story similarities should be the basis for the match if one of these dudes can clap the verse.
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I mean sure, but bro over here keeps arguing it, if it's hopeless that wouldn't be the case. Kind of preventing it from being a stomp.
 
Is there anyone who inverse currently has a updated profile that can also beat Raiden?
 
Chariot190 said:
Of course not he hasn't been updated, but you know who's profile has been?
The dude we're using here, and the scan is in there.
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Cool, I'm waiting for Armstrong's EE resistance in his profile, because Raiden doesn't use that sword on him. A very true story. Not a single lie.
Chariot190 said:
Why be willfully ignorant and ask shit you know the answer to?
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How do I know which profiles you've updated and which haven't? Don't speak for me. Be responsible for yourself first and foremost, and don't act arrogant.
Chariot190 said:
And I literally quote "borderline", I never once said it was actual time stop, I even explained what it entails, and if you read the profile you would know he has two and what it entails anyway.
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It still doesn't matter. The enemy still has no way to resist at this speed amp.
Chariot190 said:
It does actually. It makes you objectively wrong, makes you come off as disingenuous and strawmanning intentionally if you knew, actively twisting what was said given nobody argued thst you just doubled up because???
Also proves you haven't bothered to parse the profile properly even slightly because this is explained and even shown.
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Dude, you're just throwing around accusations and big words to make your position seem more secure. Stop this farce.
Chariot190 said:
Either you read it, or don't expect people to spoonfeed you.

I mean I asked a few questions, you ignored all of them and kept harping so idk what you expect here.

I mean sure, but bro over here keeps arguing it, if it's hopeless that wouldn't be the case. Kind of preventing it from being a stomp.
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I'm not arguing about the match, but about what you're saying.
 
Overall, I have no desire to further argue with someone who picks apart words to slap more accusations on their text.

The match is a stomp. I'm unsubscribing.
 
NikHelton said:
Cool, I'm waiting for Armstrong's EE resistance in his profile, because Raiden doesn't use that sword on him. A very true story. Not a single lie.
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Doesn't need to if it's stated not to work? What??? I mean, you'd think right?

And his profile don't matter, we're arguing Raiden or did you miss that? As long as it's on his who cares how outdated a completely different profile is.
NikHelton said:
How do I know which profiles you've updated and which haven't? Don't speak for me. Be responsible for yourself first and foremost, and don't act arrogant.
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I'm speaking for you because you objectively have not read through the profile.tgat you do know is updated. Also all profiles have a history check option.
NikHelton said:
It still doesn't matter. The enemy still has no way to resist at this speed amp.
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Then stop arguing.
NikHelton said:
Dude, you're just throwing around accusations and big words to make your position seem more secure. Stop this farce.
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My position? Big words? Honestly not sure how to comment on that, that's just kind of bafflingly if you think this is anything but me straight up telling you to read the profile properly and stop twisting words.

My position, what that Raiden wins? I mean hey you wanna argue Ken go ahead, do so in fact. Make it not a stomp I suppose.

But sure, if my position isn't secure disprove these:
  • Raiden has quantum life sensors.
  • Raiden has quantum AOE.
  • Raiden has vastly superior heat in AOE form.
  • Raiden has bonk.
  • Raiden has fifty billion detailed codecs explaining his combat methods, thought process and more.
  • Ken resists any of the above
  • Ken can react quicker than Raiden.
If any of those are true, pretty sure my position is solid.
NikHelton said:
I'm not arguing about the match, but about what you're saying.
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Oh so just arguing to argue got it.
 
Foriaa said:
I have to ask, why did the OP make this match? What about it was interesting, I don't think it has anything to do with their similar tiering considering Raiden can kill people far stronger than him due to his sword, or that he can blitz people even in equalized speed.

Why was this match made?
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Can yall stop acting like everyone is targeting Kaneki? I got like five matches in the oven for Kaneki I been working on, he's just a cool character to argue over lol.
 
Arkenis said:
Can yall stop acting like everyone is targeting Kaneki? I got like five matches in the oven for Kaneki I been working on, he's just a cool character to argue over lol.
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I don’t think he’s being targeted, 3 matches were created today and 2 came from TG supps, this match specifically is odd.
 
Yeah, stomp. Kaneki's one win-con is basically impossible for him to reach, even Cell vs Muzan was more fair because Muzan could do shit right off the bat that could hurt/incap/kill Perfect Cell.
 
Foriaa said:
we can do mgs4 raiden vs alucard
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Stats of both are outdated. But also Class T TK yet 8-B despite the calc giving 7-C GPE???

MGS4 Raiden's supposed to be 7-C and Class T months from now, don't know about the latter, but the difference between the AP and LS is jarring and contradictory.
 
LegendariumOfLies said:
He usually has some resistances to the Enemy's Kit, LS, Speed or literally any other advantage initially to help him get there. Dude has none of the shit here.
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He's got AP and can aoe it apparently 🤷
 
LegendariumOfLies said:
So you're telling me Kaneki's single win-con is him to AD and Danmaku against a guy who attacks at the molecular level and whose blade casually exhausts heat that is nearly 50x Kaneki's current heat limit with a 10x speed boost?
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Sub-atomic actually...
LegendariumOfLies said:
Like bro what is my man supposed to do? Be the victim?
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Also yes.
LegendariumOfLies said:
When He ADs, how is he supposed to AD as atoms, bro is only Low-High?
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They were arguing Raiden would lead with basic cuts and then Ken instant spikes and AOEs as a puddle so like 🤷‍♂️
 
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