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Jurassic World/Park General Discussion Thread

Dale's Indominus Paddock feat got adjusted and re-accepted. If anyone wants to try their hand at making a CRT for that then it would be a pretty decent buff.
 
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More Jurassic Park/World Upgrades

The Indominus Rex's very first on-screen feat aside from eating a guy has been calculated to be a 9-A+ and Class 50 feat altogether and thus would buff her up as well as the other beasts who scale to her like Rexy, the Mosasaur, the Giga, etc...
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A couple feats from the new season that stuck out:

  • The Giganotosaurus didn't seem to suffer any notable injury from having its back set on fire.
  • The Quetzalcoatlus was able to lift a car that appeared to be one of the Biosyn Jeep Gladiators that appeared in Dominion, which should be a Class 5 feat.
 
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I do but why can't you just put their calc in a blog on here, give them credit and get it evaluated?
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I changed my mind about that. The original creator increased the Indominus's tooth 3-4 times it's original size, which inflated the calculation to building level. I wanted to recalculate and uh, only 0.0074 tons of TNT sadly.
 
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Necro.

I'm curious. The Dilo for the movies profile is more bare bones and has contendable weak evidence. I've seen like circa 50% of the franchise and I'm dying to add more stuff and contribute to the dilo's profile.

Is no one questioning the nuance that the dilos seen in the movie canon are just... juveniles or at least inconsistent with what's implied in out-of-movie official source material? We have official sources implying the adults are far larger at 20 ft in length and another stating a length of 22 ft with 450 kg respectively. Juvenlies are 6 ft long...

There are 3 characters within the franchise that have physically contended with a Juvenlie Dilo


Verdict: In terms of tiering, the Dilo's 9-C physical rating should surprisingly be there still despite the feats showing it's limits because it can physically contend with physically fit and trained people, and some sufficiently strong men can physically contend with one. The Dilo as a Juvenlie/shorter dinosaur should not be far superior to regular people. If we can get a separate key for adults then I'd gladly push for a 9-B upgrade based on a calc, but I'll withhold until a calc is made on their KE.

For the same reasons as above the Dilo's LS should only Vary from Average to Athletic Human.
 
H3110l12345I20 said:
Necro.

I'm curious. The Dilo for the movies profile is more bare bones and has contendable weak evidence. I've seen like circa 50% of the franchise and I'm dying to add more stuff and contribute to the dilo's profile.

Is no one questioning the nuance that the dilos seen in the movie canon are just... juveniles or at least inconsistent with what's implied in out-of-movie official source material? We have official sources implying the adults are far larger at 20 ft in length and another stating a length of 22 ft with 450 kg respectively. Juvenlies are 6 ft long...

There are 3 characters within the franchise that have physically contended with a Juvenlie Dilo


Verdict: In terms of tiering, the Dilo's 9-C physical rating should surprisingly be there still despite the feats showing it's limits because it can physically contend with physically fit and trained people, and some sufficiently strong men can physically contend with one. The Dilo as a Juvenlie/shorter dinosaur should not be far superior to regular people. If we can get a separate key for adults then I'd gladly push for a 9-B upgrade based on a calc, but I'll withhold until a calc is made on their KE.

For the same reasons as above the Dilo's LS should only Vary from Average to Athletic Human.
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When I made the dilo page I hadn't seen Camp Cretaceous, nor had I see the movies in awhile, so I agree the page needs work, stuff like the venom being Paralysis Inducement and I think Acid Manipulation (I don't rember where that's shown) should have been added a long time ago
And if you make a dilo CRT I'd agree with adding a new key for adults
 
Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh said:
When I made the dilo page I hadn't seen Camp Cretaceous, nor had I see the movies in awhile, so I agree the page needs work, stuff like the venom being Paralysis Inducement and I think Acid Manipulation (I don't rember where that's shown) should have been added a long time ago
And if you make a dilo CRT I'd agree with adding a new key for adults
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I was about to make a correction to my reply in-case anyone is bothered by my Necro, and missing info. But yeah.

Species in general like in the real world vary on weight and size. That's pretty much an explanation for why Dilos are superior to most people physically and yet can be overpowered and physically contended by someone like Kenji.

Also, due to the Dilo indirectly scaling to one-up Gerry and Nima's durability, his and her durability feats should be contested from the Troodon's profile and the Scarred Velociraptor Leader's profile.

Gerry's durability feats should be a lot lower mathematically by the same precedent we have in-case someone is sent flying by a car instead of being rammed into a wall. He does tank Rexy/Roberta's attacks and Lady Margaret's charge but he should not be 9-A, 9-B is dubious, a possibly but questionable. Jurassic Park: The Game also has it's somewhat noncanonical death feats in-case the player fails, but only as an extension as the potential capabilities of each dinosaur or how the characters could've died in terms of what is canon. It's not really unbelievable that Gerry can casually get crushed by Rexy so I'd reduce Troodons to be... 9-C, possibly 9-B on that basis.

Nima on the other hand is pretty much physically on par with Billy Yoder, but she isn't framed by any stretch to tank falls from terminal velocity in the game.

I see most of the JP: The Game's feat profiles on-site are overrated and taken out of context when they should have a 9-C, possibly 9-B rating. In which case since Nima is involved, the Dilo should be just... 9-C, possibly 9-B for it's Juvenlie key
 
H3110l12345I20 said:
I see most of the JP: The Game's feat profiles on-site are overrated and taken out of context when they should have a 9-C, possibly 9-B rating. In which case since Nima is involved, the Dilo should be just... 9-C, possibly 9-B for it's Juvenlie key
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If I understand right, you're saying movie Dilo should uses Jurassic Park: The Game sacleing, but due to JPTG's iffy Canon that likely wouldn't work

The rest of what you said makes sense
 
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Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh said:
If I understand right, you're saying movie Dilo should uses Jurassic Park: The Game sacleing, but due to JPTG's iffy Canon that's likely wouldn't work

The rest of what you said makes sense
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I feel like the answer is more complex. But thanks for giving me a legit source to JPTG's iffy canon (I've BEEN (Uppercase intended) dying to find how canon it really is).

JPTG has internally consistent canon dedicated only to their internal canon (implying JP TG characters should really be CRTed in their own right, I mean they are on this site there). would make something noncanonical here for the rest of the franchise regarding the Dilo is if those soft canon feats actually contradict what has been established about the canon of JP/JW. I don't wanna hold my argument on an ad hominem technicality, but I do see your point as valid considering telltale can be very weird with the narrative powerscaling consistency of dinos against the survivors in JPTG.
 
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Question to everyone here, if even Kenji doesn't get spat at and blinded in close quarters combat with a Dilo, why do Dilos in wrestling and close quarters just... don't blind their opponent when they're right in-front of them in a wrestling match?

I'm planning to note down the Dilo's standard tactics in combat since we have a plentiful data set for even Juvenlies, but this is a peculiar pattern I noticed. There has to be a case where an opponent has been attempted to be blinded while the Dilo is trying to overpower their prey.
 
H3110l12345I20 said:
Question to everyone here, if even Kenji doesn't get spat at and blinded in close quarters combat with a Dilo, why do Dilos in wrestling and close quarters just... don't blind their opponent when they're right in-front of them in a wrestling match?
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Likely would be a waste for venom when you already have pery that close
H3110l12345I20 said:
I'm planning to note down the Dilo's standard tactics in combat since we have a plentiful data set for even Juvenlies, but this is a peculiar pattern I noticed. There has to be a case where an opponent has been attempted to be blinded while the Dilo is trying to overpower their prey.
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Maybe this? or this?
 
Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh said:
Likely would be a waste for venom when you already have pery that close

Maybe this? or this?
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Understandable, although the main difference is that in a lot of the cases where a Dilo tries to use it's blinding spit...
  • The opponent is at a distance
  • It's not in a wrestling match
And come to think of it, Dilos do work in a group but I'm not sure if they use their group thinking well. They literally had Nima (assuming the later films don't directly contradict Jurassic Park: The Game) in their grasp and were probably doing very well against physically fit people and Darius' group.

I'll list the pattern for their standard tactics:
  • At a distance, they generally act like any carnivorous animal. Judging by how Nedry treated his Dilo, it's likely he may have accidentally challenged the Dilo by putting his hood on.
  • When hunting/attacking, they generally try to pin down their opponents with their sheer weight on them and try to blind their eyes. If they get into a grappling match they generally try to persistently push into it's prey and not use their venom. They frequently concentrate injuries on a person's upper body, ranging from the upper back, arms, neck and heads on human victims.
    • When trying to blind their prey, they usually hiss and open up their frails (if I'm describing them right)
    • The best group feat I've seen them do is corner Darius' group. But disclaimer, I haven't watched camp cretaceous' later seasons so I'll need to find proof beyond the JP wiki for where I got this from.
      • I'll interject on the JP the Game canonity but it seems to be partially canon; Harding and most of the dinos from Telltale are present in Ingen's 1994 reports of the 1994 clean up if you're interested. But regardless I find it hard to believe the Dilos just held themselves back and let Nima survive even if we assumed the dinos and/or environment transported the canister into the mainland from the old docks. I mean you don't have to debate this if you don't want Nima's part to be canon but if you do, why do you think the Dilos held themselves back against Nima?
 
Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh said:
It will be nice to have some more Human Characters, I wish you luck
And feel free to share if you want any help, I'm basically the only person actively working on JP pages
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I have this 90% done for Nima; you can also follow the page to see and read up on any other changes for Gerry, Oscar and Billy.

Also, I think for film profiles linking feats to JP: The Game, we should probably leave a note regarding what is canon and accepted since a lot of the Dilo's feats will come from JP: The Game. Like "if a part of JP: The Game doesn't contradict the films, the feats from the canon parts of JP: The Game can be considered canon." The only way I see Nima and the canister plot being canon is if she died with the canister in her hands, then nature/dinos returned the can intact deep within the jungle.
 
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Anyone here interested in a potential CRT for characters and dinos from Jurassic Park: The Game and a calc for the Dilo? I feel like their 9-B rating is just too... weak and wanked.
 
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