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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

I feel like keeping hostility to a minimum would be nice, after all the whole point of these forums are interpreting given source materials for a power-level, if we cant get the verse to 5D from what we have there's no need to maul eachother over it. Also we might need a practical translation as the wiki suggests not using MTN methods
Telling someone they don't know what they're talking about isn't hostile?..
As this guy quite literally does not know what he's talking about.
Im just stating objective facts.

Im not going to waste my time explaining something extremely simple that he himself can find by simply searching up the difference, since my explanation obviously didn't suffice, and i cba explaining / spoonfeeding further.
 
you do not what you are talking about, Infinite is not infinitely expansive no matter what semantics or worldplay.
we cannot change each others stances so agree to disagree.
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I feel like keeping hostility to a minimum would be nice, after all the whole point of these forums are interpreting given source materials for a power-level, if we cant get the verse to 5D from what we have there's no need to maul eachother over it. Also we might need a practical translation as the wiki suggests not using MTN methods
There is a good chance we might get 5D timeline but it's uncertain if Almighty scales to it.
 
There is a good chance we might get 5D timeline but it's uncertain if Almighty scales to it.
If not anything Almighty def does, being the omnipotent/omniscient ability that perceives the past and future while manipulating the causality/events of all possible timelines with a perspective that makes everything "grains of sand" in his eyes is enough for it imo
 
you just making things up and being semantic. What i said and what you said are no different
Extend infinitely is not Infinite.
It literally is. Also, there is not even a single mention in the entire manga, anime, or guidebook that the Garganta is somehow a structure that is currently expanding, instead of an already-created structure, as it is presented.

Can’t you see that you are forcing your own logic and interpretation by claiming it is somehow currently expanding to infinity, instead of accepting what the text literally says: that it is infinite?
 
It literally is. Also, there is not even a single mention in the entire manga, anime, or guidebook that the Garganta is somehow a structure that is currently expanding, instead of an already-created structure, as it is presented.

Can’t you see that you are forcing your own logic and interpretation by claiming it is somehow currently expanding to infinity, instead of accepting what the text literally says: that it is infinite?
i disagree extending infinitely(finite) is NOT infinite, lets just agree to disagree like i did with the dude above.
 
viz is prone to having mistranslations that affect such scalings, so a revaluation wouldn't hurt
The point here is that the text supports both interpretations, and since the official translation opted for one of them, it has become necessary to reject the other option.
furthermore, Garganta contains Muken.
so, with all due respect, your opinion doesn't matter here.
 
Infinitely expanding : the extension continues over time, and the size is not infinite.



Infinite expanse : the size is already infinite, and the term is used merely to describe the vastness, nothing more.
 
If not anything Almighty def does, being the omnipotent/omniscient ability that perceives the past and future while manipulating the causality/events of all possible timelines with a perspective that makes everything "grains of sand" in his eyes is enough for it imo
viewing an infinite amount of possibilities from a higher point/ high above sounds like textbook definition 5D to me. It still baffles me that he and Adnyeus dont have, at least, 2-A range via The Almighty. Ik it was a thing afew years ago but i dont know why it got removed.
 
viewing an infinite amount of possibilities from a higher point/ high above sounds like textbook definition 5D to me. It still baffles me that he and Adnyeus dont have, at least, 2-A range via The Almighty. Ik it was a thing afew years ago but i dont know why it got removed.
I have already presented evidence of the existence of hyper-timelines but the selectivists ignore the debate surrounding them
 
The point here is that the text supports both interpretations, and since the official translation opted for one of them, it has become necessary to reject the other option.
furthermore, Garganta contains Muken.
so, with all due respect, your opinion doesn't matter here.
highly doubt if Muken is even accepted for infinite-size as we speak, and if we're going to present said 5D scalings in the CRTs we should have enough reasoning and justifications so dont rush it
Plus the official translations from Viz mentioned "Endless", which could potentially ruin the premise knowing the strict rules this wiki follows. cough
 
highly doubt if Muken is even accepted for infinite-size as we speak
I dare anyone to argue otherwise. I have a mountain of evidence to back this up.
if we're going to present said 5D scalings in the CRTs we should have enough reasoning and justifications so dont rush it
great, present your doubts
Plus the official translations from Viz mentioned "Endless", which could potentially ruin the premise knowing the strict rules this wiki follows. cough
infinite expanse = endless expanse Both sentences are used to describe the vastness of something that is infinite
 

@ichimojii Will proving that muken is infinite pose any challenge?
 
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