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One Piece: Planet Size Discussion Rule

Kachon123

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This has been a long time coming.

Permission from @KingTempest

The size of the One Piece planet has been a heavily discussed topic on this website for years. There have been many threads about it, including several multi-page discussions going back as far as four years ago. Over time, the accepted calcs + supporting arguments have been examined and defended in detail. Despite this, downgrade threads about the planet’s size continue to be made repeatedly, often reusing the same arguments that have already been addressed multiple times before, usually without bringing any substantial new evidence to the table. This has led to the same circular debates happening over and over again.

At this point, I believe the topic has been discussed enough for the matter to be considered settled unless genuinely new evidence is presented. I propose that a discussion rule be put in place regarding attempts to downgrade the accepted size of the One Piece planet.

There has been sufficient discussion regarding attempts to downgrade the size of the One Piece planet for the matter to be considered settled and excessively controversial to revisit. As such, threads attempting to downgrade the accepted size of the One Piece planet are not allowed unless prior staff approval has been granted.
  • Arguments based on the travel speed of ships are not considered valid grounds for revisiting the accepted size of the One Piece planet. It has already been established that Eiichiro Oda consistently portrays ships as moving far faster than their real-world counterparts in order to dodge similarly fast projectiles and traverse vast distances within short timeframes
  • Arguments based on personal incredulity regarding the accepted size of the One Piece planet are not considered valid counterarguments. Claims that the planet’s accepted size is unreasonable without evidence that contradicts the accepted calculation are not sufficient grounds for reopening the discussion.
  • The overhead shot of Alabasta remains valid for planetary size calculations, as it is currently one of the most viable methods for measuring the size of the One Piece planet. Attempts to dismiss or invalidate this method without new accepted evidence are not permitted.
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The overhead shot of Alabasta remains valid for planetary size calculations, as it is currently the only viable method for measuring the size of the One Piece planet. Attempts to dismiss or invalidate this method without new accepted evidence are not permitted.
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Technically there exists a horizon calc that gets planet size to ~330k km in diameter. It's just it doesn't contradict with Alabasta shot because the reasoning is "absolutely minimum size" so result is more like "size is >330k km".
 
If it has mostly been repeated arguments, with minimal substantial differences outside of wording, I am fine with disallowing repetitive deliberation until new evidence is provided that sufficiently contradicts current interpretations. Personally, if I can say my opinion here, I believe in also including an additional clause stating an exception if an individual proposes a new set of arguments using preexisting material. I dislike completely stifling debate, even with preexisting and already discussed material, especially when a different person could have an entirely new view of the evidence, that could influence how we understand it.
 
Deceived3596 said:
If it has mostly been repeated arguments, with minimal substantial differences outside of wording, I am fine with disallowing repetitive deliberation until new evidence is provided that sufficiently contradicts current interpretations. Personally, if I can say my opinion here, I believe in also including an additional clause stating an exception if an individual proposes a new set of arguments using preexisting material. I dislike completely stifling debate, even with preexisting and already discussed material, especially when a different person could have an entirely new view of the evidence, that could influence how we understand it.
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That possibility has already been made with this section:
As such, threads attempting to downgrade the accepted size of the One Piece planet are not allowed unless prior staff approval has been granted.
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Guys, this is staff thread, a reminder that you guys need perm to post

Kachon123 said:
Despite this, downgrade threads about the planet’s size continue to be made repeatedly, often reusing the same arguments that have already been addressed multiple times before, usually without bringing any substantial new evidence to the table. This has led to the same circular debates happening over and over again.
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Well, it is better for you to links those threads and arguments, posts for us to see to determine is it neccessary for a discussion rule.
 
Vietthai96 said:
Guys, this is staff thread, a reminder that you guys need perm to post


Well, it is better for you to links those threads and arguments, posts for us to see to determine is it neccessary for a discussion rule.
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2 threads where many arguments were made have already been linked. I also linked the most recent one.
 
Two of the threads you linked are actually the proposal of the large planet size, one is when it was brought up, the other is the conclusion of the first with methods being discussed for the calc. Only the third is actually someone contesting it. There is also the fact that the manga is still ongoing, I doubt Oda would make a character say "Hey actually our planet has a diameter of..", but he can still give more hints and statements for distances and sizes for different things that can support a larger planet, or even release a full map some day with the circumference or a direct diameter statement.

Granted, if 11 pages weren't enough to remove and/or debunk the size, I doubt the topic is gonna be revived anytime soon, cause those people reviving it would give the reasons you guys lack to make it a discussion rule. I know it's boring and bothersome to discuss the same topic a few times over and over again, but it's necessary for a discussion rule.
 
I agree with Damage. There's only one thread that went behind 10 pages, and one that reached 7. The other one is just 2 pages long. Plus there's a whole difference of 4 years between the 7-page discussion and the 11-page discussion.

I don't think that's enough for a Discussion rule. It would be one thing if threads like that kept popping up every now and then (in the monthly range or less) but this is not enough at all.
 
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