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  • For Last Defense Academy Scaling:

    Students with no Enhancements should be Superhuman in speed:
    -Kurara can strike 10 times faster than the human eye can react. The accepted calc for this is superhuman
    -The SDU can run to the ship, which is small enough to appear like a grain of rice, in 30 seconds. This isn’t really calculable. But I estimate this to likely fall under the superhuman running speed range.
    -The SDU can run on water. This takes superhuman speed


    Everyone with cryptoglobin should be at least Supersonic in the first timeline, and at least Hypersonic after the time travel:
    -Kyoshika’s special attack is calculated at Subsonic+. However, she makes a sonic boom during the attack, so it should be at least Supersonic.
    -This video highlights various feats that can be used for speed. Takemaru’s bike generating flames. Eito making a tornado. Both of these are subsonic. Moko’s attacker 4:06 produces flames in the air, meaning it’s at least Hypersonic. However, she doesn’t show up until Takumi time travels.
    -V’ehxness can kill commanders before the SDU has time to react.

    Lifting Strength for humans ranges from Average Human to Athletic Human:
    -Nozomi says that she works out and is fairly fit
    -Moko is a wrestler
    -I cannot find it on YouTube, but Moko has a bonding event in the library. She says how many books she can lift. I’d ran quick numbers, and she had above average human to athletic human lifting. I don’t think this evidence is necessary to put the peak humans on athletic human lifting, it just may help cement the rating

    Lifting Strength is a solid, canon Class 1 for cryptoglobin users:
    -Cryptoglobin canonically makes its users’ strength superhuman
    -The SDU leaps high into the air before battles, and after losing all health when away from the school (And Nozomi always leaps away after losing all health)
    -As you know, V’hexness routinely makes vast leaps
    -The limit of 1 ton is placed, as no one can lift the cage that weighs one ton

    (I could grab links to any of these if you need, but they’re common enough that they’re easier to find than the others I’ve linked I think)

    Humans are all street to wall level:
    -As seen in the linked video earlier, Kurara can punch Gaku into the air, and he can survive it
    -Takumi can survive an explosion. He is knocked out though, and it’s uncertain if this is real or not.
    -Takumi can survive falling backwards down a manhole. It should be noted that this didn’t actually happen, and he did later suspect it could have knocked him out.
    -I forgot where this happened. But I believe it was in route 0. But anyway, Nozomi kicks down Takumi’s door. This would be a clear wall level, although she did note that it was weaker than she expected it to be

    We can discuss exactly who scales to what, but almost everyone that uses cryptoglobin should be in the range of building to large building level in every timeline, with a few exceptions:
    -In the Hiruko light novel, we see that the invaders can break through concrete walls, and resist gunfire, taking multiple high caliber guns at once, only dying from finally bleeding out. This should make them wall level, especially paired with how they tear humans apart. They are commonly referred to as “cannon fodder” to the SDU
    -Just from looking at the video with all their special attacks, that attacks visually appear to be wall to small building level.
    -I’d have to find it, but a research paper they found mentioned how the commanders tore down humans ships and tanks. This should make them small building to building level.
    -First timeline V’ehxness survives an explosion. This actually is likely only wall level for her since she isn’t in the epicenter, however, it was amped with cryptoglobin, so it’s likely much more powerful than it appears.
    -Shion melting through the defense door was calculated to be Building level+
    -Shion ending all life on Futurum was calculated to be Small City level, requiring Building level energy per second to generate in the 100 days


    The absolute peak characters should be “At least Large Town level”, likely far higher:
    -V’ehxness was calculated to need Large Island level power to destroy the artificial satellite, and Large Town level per second to make that in time (at an absolute low ball). Her missiles we’re also calculating to be moving at Massively Hypersonic speeds
    -I forgot which timeline she did it in, but V’hexness survived Shion unloading all his missiles into her. It is worth noting, however, that he wasn’t finished putting all the power into the missiles, and also that he stated that he didn’t use his power very well
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    Queen_Dasania
    So I’m gonna go over some of the things

    A lot if the really high end stuff like star or solar system level rely on the vacuum of space being lit up. I just personally find this too shaky of evidence. If we had more than things being lit up, maybe. But the only accepted calcs we have from actual destruction fears go up to large island level. Star level and stuff just goes too much higher

    The town level calc for Takumi waking up could work… if we used it, I’d just do my own calc for the wiki, and we’d probably scale everyone in the second timeline to it. But outside of V’hexness’s big amp after killing invaders, which almost no one really matches without poisoning her, that level of power isn’t shown by anyone else. So I think it’s iffy. Also because, in general, I think that event was really just a cool visual thing imo. It’s hard to tell if clouds were actually being moved. He also doesn’t use that level of power in combat. Also, it just feels like too big of a jump from the couple building level calcs we can reasonably scale them off, and with anti feats, like being hurt by falls and chain saws, it just doesn’t really feel applicable

    I think it’s too iffy to assume the cryptoglobin attacks move at lightspeed. And, the sub relativistic cal I did that’s listed was already rejected. So I think we still can only get them to Hypersonic due to Moko lighting on fire in her special attack

    So, while the blog is cool, I don’t think anything from it really changes any of the work we’ve done that can be applied to this wiki
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    Yeah dw i agree. The star/solar system stuff isnt viable, neither is the FTL or even electricity argument they make for speed.

    I do think the Undying Flames feat V'exhness shown when blowing up the satellite is valid and could possibly scale to CoA but will need to review over. And ofc yeah, any calcs that catch your eye just reproduce them with your own stuff.
    Only thing i somewhat find interesting is the whole 'bloodspace contains infinite timelines' and how the SDU are implied to be strong enough to break out of the timeloop with enough power by being together. But ill have to review that over cause i doubt that translates to any accessible AP.
    Queen_Dasania
    Yeah, the satellite feat works. But I already calculated it and got it approved. And got a similar result to what they got

    As for breaking free of the loop? I agree with you that I don’t think it’s accessible ap
    Rain Code Scaling:

    I won’t be as exhaustive, especially with linking feats, as you have most of those linked on existing profiles. But I’ll show some necessary evidence for scaling.

    Peak Characters should be wall level. Shinigami should be at least City Block level, at least in her God form (but likely in her normal size form too):
    -Halara can crack a soldier’s helmet by throwing a coin. This should be wall level. Especially given that these helmets are designed to withstand bullets and shrapnel
    -Halara can send people flying, and into the air. This is street to wall level
    -Shinigami’s god size puts her at wall level.
    -Shinigami can break through giant walls and kick giant balls. These feats are Building level and City Block level, respectively
    -Many Shinigami and Labyrinth Yuma feats go far higher, but usually can’t be calculated, are weird, and/or require getting correct answers


    Peak Characters should have Class 1 lifting strength. Shinigami in god form should have class 25 lifting
    -Yakou can force open an elevator door. This requires Class 1 lifting strength.
    -Halara sending people into the air, and/or sending them flying, and jumping the way she does should take between Peak Human and Class 1 lifting
    -Going back to Shinigami’s god form, it should be class 25 from size alone

    Peak Human should have athletic to peak human speed, Shinigami should have Subsonic running speed in god form, and Hypersonic flight speed:
    -Peak humans don’t have much in the way of travel speed feats. They do seem fairly fast though, hence Athletic Human to Peak Human
    -Shinigami should have subsonic speed in god form.
    -Shinigami should fly at Hypersonic speeds.

    Most characters should have High Hypersonic reactions and/or combat speed:
    -Fubuki can react to a bullet.
    -Fubuki can react to a machine gun bullets. Is likely faster than her existing feat, just obviously no way to calculate it.
    -Fubuki can react to explosions. Was calced at Supersonic+, but rejected due to the vague nature of the feat
    -Yuma can react to bullets
    Akudama Drive scaling:

    Everyone should fall under “at most Building level” with the likely exception of the kids:

    -Courier has building level durability from enduring this. He later dies, hence the “at most” rating.
    -Master can harm Courier
    -Pretty much the whole cast can survive missiles hitting them, without enough power to break the floor. This feat should be around small building level
    -Master can hit Brawler through several metal doors . Being hit through metal walls/doors in this fashion should be around small building level
    -Several characters endure this explosion. This should be about Small Building level
    -Brawler claims to be able to knock a train off the tracks. Assuming he can do this head on while it’s in motion, this is potentially up to Building level
    -Master outright says Brawler is strong. This implies Brawler is likely stronger than Master, just lacks the skill or strategy to actually use his strength effectively
    -You could def find more evidence for this. But the cast in general all seem to be at least comparable AP and durability wise


    Courier’s Rail Gun should be City Block level
    -As you saw in my calc earlier, it matched the ship’s cannon, which created the City Block level explosion
    -It liquified this door. This should be about building level.
    -It brought down this building. This could be argued to be anywhere from Small Building to Building level due to the manner with which it performed this feat.
    -It destroyed a tank. This should be Small Building to Building level. Same as when it downed this jet.
    -It’s definitely far above the cast. From what I can see, no one endures an attack from it.

    The cast should be Subsonic in travel speed:
    -Only real evidence I have for exactly this rating comes from episode 3, I believe. When they’re trying to get last the pillars. She’s panicking, and darting across the room in an instant. I unfortunately couldn’t find the video

    Courier’s bike should be Supersonic:
    -It outruns missiles.
    -It chases down a jet.
    -It can swerve to avoid gunfire.
    It does whatever this is.
    Anyway. All this points to Supersonic.

    The group as a whole should have High Hypersonic+ combat speed:
    -Execution Division Master can deflect a bullet that’s millimeters from his face. This is calculated to be High Hypersonic+
    -He can throws his blade fast enough to overtake a bullet. I calculated this to be High Hypersonic. It isn’t evaluated, but this clearly works as a supporting feat.
    -Master has so many bullet deflection feats. Just look at any of his fights with Courier
    -Brawler can catch a bullet in his teeth.

    Most characters don’t have much in the way of lifting feats. And I’d say some could just be classified as average human. Let me get some feats we can use though:
    -Brawler can stop Courier’s bike from moving forward. To put it into perspective, motorcycles weight between 300 and 800 pounds. So this should be an Athletic Human to Peak Human lifting feat.
    -Brawler can jump onto a blimp. This is hard to calculate, but is definitely in the Superhuman lifting ranges.
    -Brawler can lift stone pillars. This will be class 5 if my calc is accepted.
    -Brawler can throw a robot. Don’t know how calculable this is. But it’s def superhuman to some degree.
    -He can throw the car or a Ferris wheel.
    Ferris wheel cars can weigh 13 tons, which might classify this as a class 25 feat or higher. I’m just unsure if that applies to these cars, they seem fairly small.
    -Master can throw Courier’s bike. You already know this is at least Athletic to Peak Human lifting, probably higher since he’s throwing it.
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    Queen_Dasania
    Yeah, I saw rubble on a second watch. But it still looks just Wall level to me unfortunately

    And yeah! Hacker’s tech achieves small building level from that for sure. I mean, I’m pretty sure it’s implied it could vaporize Brawler if I’m not mistaken, so it could just outright scale to Small Town level

    And yeah. She could scale potentially. But you’re right that the comment only necessarily scales her above the average person he’s used to killing
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    I doubt its Small Town level. Hacker hasnt got the battle iq and he himself cant fathom or believe Brawlers sheer power so he wouldnt know. If anything Brawler was unphased by the threat completely.

    Plus Hacker completely dips saying he doesnt wanna die in the hotel fight and lets the others take on the executioners

    I do notice tho that everyone gets easily pierced by bladed weapons, but can tank anything concussive of blunt easily
    Queen_Dasania
    Fair enough. But yeah, he definitely is at least small building level. And once that calc is evaluated, we can have all regular humans at wall level

    And yeah. That’s very true, and common in fiction
    Alright, so the Massively Hypersonic+ calc for Last Defense Academy was rejected, which is ok. We both knew it was an iffy calc

    Anyway, with that said, we can list their speed as hypersonic due to Moko’s special attack making flames! At least Hypersonic for their second timeline selves. For the first timeline, I think they’re at least Supersonic due to Kyoshika’s attack making a sonic boom

    For Rain Code, I think we can upgrade them to transonic. Given that Fubuki could activately see a bullet in slow motion
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    Jinx666
    That'd be super appreciated thank you! All the calcs would go on their respective Verse Pages
    Queen_Dasania
    I don’t really think there’d be any other calcs for even Last Defense Academy. A lot of the feats are the same. I remember a lot of them, and I can link them:)
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    True, it'd just be piecing together the logic past the calcs too, since Hundred Line does have a lot of inconsistency (especially in regards to the Undying Flames)

    I'll need to lab formatting of the pages too, given we'll be including Alternate versions from separate routes in the same profile. The standards in CoA for example will change
    Well yeah its happened now, but this should've have happened far sooner with what was got. It only took a huge enough public stir up obviously. The ban happened (finally), but then we got people trying to reconsider and turn it back just because there are reactionary comments that Sean's own hubris created.
    Leniency is everything Sean has got, but proved he didnt deserve.

    Its all well and good its happened now, but lets not pretend like this couldnt have been done sooner, i recall two times beforehand Sean kept being brought up and discussed only for it to fizzle.

    Im not being mean or 'like Sean' just because im voicing my concern. I just bring reinforcement because now it seems like people are harbouring sympathy despite him being a complete narcissist. And thats affected a lot of peoples moods and interaction on the site, so theres a valid reason to call it out.



    Anyway unfollowing thread

    Responding here to avoid further derailment:
    but then we got people trying to reconsider and turn it back just because there are reactionary comments that Sean's own hubris created.
    This is incorrect. Sean attempted an appeal because he believed the ban justification included incorrect information and Ant brought it up just in case. After being given the proper justification, that fizzled out.

    Its all well and good its happened now, but lets not pretend like this couldnt have been done sooner, i recall two times beforehand Sean kept being brought up and discussed only for it to fizzle.
    I recall couple of cases, but until Medeus brought up he was supposed to have had a final warning, I at least did not know that beforehand. I'm sure other staff members would've pushed for a ban sooner had they known that too.
    I just bring reinforcement because now it seems like people are harbouring sympathy despite him being a complete narcissist.
    And it quite frankly just looks like your hatred of Sean is blinding you to what was actually being discussed.
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    Id rather we didnt need to talk about it publically tbh, i unfollowed the thread for a reason and said all i needed to. If you desperately need me to respond then go to DMs.

    But im not just saying things because of my public disliking for Sean (and my very good reasons for doing so). He...actually breaks the rules and peace of the wiki, and the response to dealing with that finally over enabling has been too slow and too lenient imo. Sorry if you think thats 'mean' but its the truth of how i feel and I have a right to call out.
    Hey! You made any progress on getting last defense academy or rain code calcs accepted?
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    Hey
    Unfortunately not, ive had life stuff so i took a break from wiki (and to avoid burnout). I bumped Rain Code calcs the other day but you know this wiki...stuff takes ages. Idk if you know anyone you could message directly about it?
    I have pretty much completed Yakou's page, i just need to add references and stuff

    Im only just now updating another verse and then im likely to get back on stuff after. Hundred Line is a huge dedication though and I'd have to replay all over again to get it completely accurate to current wiki standards.
    Queen_Dasania
    That’s all good! No worries. I think I got lucky that I got the majority of LDA’s calcs in a time period where evaluations were happening quickly. Normally it’s slow like this though

    Definitely take tests when burnout happens💕. Hope you’re feeling better!
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    Im all good now yeah! thinking abt getting back to Rain Code soon or at least start mapping Yuma/rewatching Chapter 5. Might require a whole re-playthrough
    HEY! you seem to be a shuumatsu connoisseur, can I resolve a question about the verse here and then what can I do in the future with the verse?
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    I mean i definitely think it scales higher than 7-A but theres nothing yet to justify

    We ARE looking at Low 2-C upgrades again with the revealing of Primordials and Arche, alongside many other statements and Titan scaling, but the wiki is waiting till we know more about that (which Odin vs Kintoki should give us)
    GAGGamerTheOverlord
    GAGGamerTheOverlord
    oh yes, of course, I've already seen this low 2-C thing, I really don't want to be annoying, it's just that since I'm really new to power scaling so really my question (and I'll try to get to the point) is if can increase power based on scaling chain, I really see that with the example I gave of Thor's chain I could give between 1 Gigaton or more
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    Yeah i get that its fine!

    There is a RoR discussion thread that might be able to give you some more answers from others. I personally think it would be safe (and that Thor can even stretch Planet level with his statements) but the wiki has to be really skeptical with assumption based chain scaling too, when it can be portrayed as a 'likely higher'
    Heyyy. About to play rain code. Should be much quicker than last defense academy. Then I’ll do necessary calcs, and help you make profiles
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    Queen_Dasania
    Definitely. Only real one we’re waiting on is the massively hypersonic+. Every other necessary calc is good
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    Nice, Im thinking about what character to try and start drafting a profile for in that case (to also set the standard) and play with a format.
    Gaku as my fave character probably fits but it'd be weird for him to be the first 😭 Maybe Hiruko would fit well
    Queen_Dasania
    It’s up to you!
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    Jinx666
    Hey
    Idm if you send anything you might have done now first, and then maybe you can cycle back to the other things if you want later? Ive pretty much done two upcoming profiles for the verse, but want to wait to see if these calcs can update the stats at all
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    bump?
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    Hey, sorry to necro a bit but wondered if there was still any gap in your schedule to do these?

    Verse just got a decent feat in their Magic AP scaling that i wanna look into more.
    Use of Masters EX scaling which is considered non canon, despite profile creator being told not to use it without making a CRT.
    Hey could you send the post where it was decided Masters was non canon?
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    It was never considered canon to the mainline in the first place. We established this when the first Gloria and Calem pages were out and literally everyone else except the Pazdera guy takes issue with it.

    Idk where else it was discussed but it’s quite obvious it’s a separate continuity or ‘parallel world’ or w/e compared to the mainline
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    Masters EX is not mainline canon on that page no.

    It’s a secondary crossover gacha game that takes place separate to main canon. If people want to make Masters Ex variants of characters then they need separate profiling as opposed to trying to retcon main canon storyline games
    You are a supporter of Overwatch. Can you give thoughts here?

    You are a supporter of Assassination Classroom. Can you help us reach a verdict?

    Artorimachi_Meteoraft
    Artorimachi_Meteoraft

    May you take a look at this overwatch matchup I made? Thanks
    Artorimachi_Meteoraft
    Artorimachi_Meteoraft
    Also may you help with this rwby matchup too


    Thanks
    Could you please express your opinion, Mr. Jinx

    Hi jinx, I want you to check out the Shindou takuto profile I'm working on right now.

    If you think it's good, I'll continue.

    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    I still gotta rewatch all of Go, I was planning on making this main trio's profiles and properly fixing up the scalings. As well as decide how we want to do Go Galaxy (The Ozrock profile is old and needs srs fixing)

    Other than that, try to fix up the formatting and grammar in comparison to the other published profiles. Would need better images of Shindou in his Raimon uniform, his Miximax, his Keshin Armed and his Galaxy uniform
    Hirotoswnn1x
    Hirotoswnn1x
    I'll wait for you to do it. I'm not very good at calculating,all of this is information from Mr. Shadow
    Can you comment on this thread? Thank you
    Can you comment on this thread? Thank you.
    Hi Jinx666, I was a little wondering if we could use a better looking multiplier for Inazuma Eleven. From the description of Ultimate Thunder, we know that the soccer ball acts as an energy receiver. Therefore, I will give an example: when White Hurricane = 181.80 Teraton of TNT, Zero Magnum formed by the combined power of Shuu and Hakuryuu should be twice as strong, which is equal to 363.6 Teraton of TNT, and we also have additional evidence for explanation. Fire Tornado DD is said to be the combination of two Fire Tornadoes and their power is doubled. What do you think?
    Shadow_x007x
    Shadow_x007x
    That's right, there are a lot of things we can use as multipliers. Even splitting Fei's Dupli could give us a 10 multiplier for him, considering that any Dupli could still compete with Protocol Omega. But since I've been thinking about it, So, does this make Inazuma Eleven a story where the multiplier is too high? That's what I'm not sure about.
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    Not really. With the unclear power system that is hissatsu, theres very little actual feats to pull from (unlike Hakuryuu's hurricane, not every hissatsu can be taken as literally as they are usually just a visual effect), so multipliers seem to be the only way to go to measure Inazuma's progression. They're similar to Dragon ball's power system in that the characters continuously get stronger via multipliers and power anyway.

    We already know by Galaxy that the characters get to at least Solar System through the black hole feat, so as long as multipliers dont get too crazy to that extent, then they'll be fine. The multipliers we use are huge lowballs anyway and sparingly throughout the series.

    I wouldn't count Fei's Dupli tbh, Dupli are just duplicates that Fei can remotely control that still act as his power meanwhile Ghost Miximax is literally transferring your own power and energy to your teammates. Fei's issues with Dupli come with remotely controlling and sharing out his strength with them regardless as opposed to giving them power (They are just essentially him). You wouldnt give normal duplication users a power mutliplier just for being able to make duplicates.
    Shadow_x007x
    Shadow_x007x
    Ok, as you said, this is the only way to find Inazuma Eleven's increased results.

    I'll try to calculate Doing as many calculations within a subject as possible to facilitate scaling. Because we still lack the proper lift and speed for this. (Although it is difficult to find a Scaling that can be calculated)
    Jinx666 can you help go over the scans of the Dr stone crt to see what powers why man would get?
    Hey there. This isn't a warning but just a heads-up that while arguing passionately is good, coming across too strongly or vehemently can appear aggressive. I know it can be pretty frustrating on here sometimes but in general try to take a couple steps back from threads, avoid enging other users too directly and remain level-headed.

    Just delivering this advice in the hopes that future threads go smoothly and that people don't have any reason to complain.
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    Thank you, though I could very much say the same for the person likely 'complaining'.

    And have asked them to discuss it with me personally rather than liking the post.
    Damage3245
    Damage3245
    Nobody liking my post asked me to post this. I'll just leave it at that and hope you don't mind the words.

    The same message goes out to anyone else reading this post.
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    I dont mind the words Its fine
    (though the other person I have in mind it essentially applies the same to.)
    If you need help with Inazuma Eleven I will gladly help you

    But we use the games or the anime? My knowledge is from the anime
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    We use sort of a composite mix, since the games and anime are always awkward with what comes first/go into different continuities.

    The anime is definitely the main use though, while the games help delve into abilities and some statement feats etc. (Not the crazy ones like busting planets etc.)
    Shadow_x007x
    Shadow_x007x
    I don't know if I'm writing in this is appropriate or not but I need some help I've set up this forum.
    Are you interested in helping me edit the new Inazuma eleven profile once the CTR passes?
    Shadow_x007x
    Shadow_x007x
    I've fixed the Calculation section of the Inazuma eleven cover profile.
    Hi, I specially registered to contact you.
    I want to discuss something with you, do you have a Discord?
    Can you send me your nickname number so I can add you?
    Jinx666
    Jinx666
    Whats it regarding?
    Wooops15
    Regarding the topic - Alucard (Hellsing) major CRT, and your participation in this.
    I'll tell you and show you some info, and ask questions. Maybe it will help something for the topic, maybe not.
    But I would like to invite you to Discord for this, it's more convenient.
    Wooops15
    Thanks
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