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  1. Blueicemonkey

    Nekron no longer bad?!?! (DC Comics Nekron rework and potential Captain Atom upgrade)

    Going by current canon, he is just another fragment of the Great Darkness.
  2. Blueicemonkey

    25 things I dislike about VS debating (and VSB)

    The main problem this site has is its Tier System. The scaling is often wonky, varies too much, and people who often know shit of a series just agree with every proposed change. And then it is impossible to actually have an engaging vs debate because you need to do a full revision thread to...
  3. Blueicemonkey

    One Piece: Old Age God Tier Revision

    I think it's mostly a problem of determining when someone becomes 'old' in One Piece, as in when they start declining. For example, Big Mom doesn't really have any showings of old age slowing her down, and several characters seem to be in their 'prime' from their late 40s to their late 50s (see...
  4. Blueicemonkey

    Heroic spirit form key, Nasuverse

    We actually have, in Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files. Or at least the cloest we will ever be. Heroic Spirit Iskandar gets summoned and it's in the process of becoming a Divine Spirit. He looks like a lightshow that it's made from all the possible versions of Iskandar at the same time occupying...
  5. Blueicemonkey

    Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

    Going EP alone, Guy is below all the True Dragons (40 million vs the 70+ millions that all the current True Dragons have). However, Guy could defeat Velgrynd and possibly Veldora thanks to the Time Stop. And maybe Lucifer. Whenever we get the full details of that power in the LN, if it does...
  6. Blueicemonkey

    Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

  7. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

    I should also apologize for responding in the same kind instead of keeping calm. And for clogging up the thread. Speaking of FGO again, it seems that part of Arcade (the 2019 client) got leaked somehow. Not sure if it will bring out anything interesting besides models, certainly nothing on the...
  8. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

    I prefer to copy the relevant parts and highlight things rather than just calling on them, specially in a site that relies heavily on feats. If you have a problem with posting feats, as I said, you can just close the window and move to another site. Not gonna condense quotes since they are a...
  9. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

    Cry me a ******* river, man. The discussion has just been running for a few posts and this is a goddamn forum, if you don't want to read people debating about a series and power levels in its thread and bringing quotes maybe go to another site.
  10. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

    He was destroying the universe in his texture, he wasn't even going to spill outside of it. Lostbelt Artemis was already loaded with an Anti-Star/Planet NP. She didn't have the Saint Graph of a Servant. She was a full Divine Spirit with the full power of Orochi in her. Tamamo Nine Tails is...
  11. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

    12 Machine Gods + the Titan pieces was already an entire pantheon. It doesn't matter if there is a million, if the quality is lower. A Bunrei can be equal in power to the main thing. That's the entirety of the deal with Tamamo, who can grow to be equal to the GWF. They do, though? From LB...
  12. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

    There is no indication that Arjuna is stronger. Zeus is a similar composite divinity with complete control over his texture and anti-galaxy/solar system attacks that can threaten the entire star. So in capabilities they are the same, but Zeus is explictly a higher rank of existence due to...
  13. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

    I went through his profile, and it really has some scaling inconsistences. I wonder, does anyone a source for Arjuna being the strongest enemy that Chaldea faced up to LB4? I guess that will have to go anyways since LB5.5 had Sion saying that Beast I and Beast VII were the strongest recorded...
  14. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Mega CRT Part 3: God Tiers

    Gawain was also just manhandled by the Lion King who almost killed him (and sent him flying through the city unlike in the movie) from one casual shot, so his point of reference is just being utterly bodied even under his Numeral of the Saint. I mean, if people are getting scaled on the basis...
  15. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Mega CRT Part 3: God Tiers

    EDIT: Ops, I mixed things. Yeah, I will need to check the raws on that one. Here is the profile anyways: Also, the implication/theory crafting seems to be
  16. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Mega CRT Part 3: God Tiers

    Goddess Rhongo also has the feat of being on the same level as King Hassan. Divine Spirits and Goddess Rhongomyniad in the same Singularity are stated to be above the Demon God Pillars. From the Babylonia anime, only the representatives of the Demon Gods are Divine Spirit. Also, nothing...
  17. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Mega CRT Part 3: God Tiers

    That chain of scaling is messy as hell. Also probably even more confusing after Hell Mandala. Well, went back to SIN and Da Vinci does mention her being Divine Spirit-class, albeit I don't see the direct comparison with the Lion King. She should qualify for that reason, not a scaling to...
  18. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Mega CRT Part 3: God Tiers

    How does the REGEND scale to her or other Divine Spirits? Kinda iffy with the whole Ouku thing since there were a lot of conditions for everyone preforming as they were in it. Most of the event has people doing things because 'they have a conceptual advantage over the other character', who is...
  19. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Mega CRT Part 3: God Tiers

    If higher-dimensionality, a trait of both Divine Spirits, True Demons and some equivalent beings is the basis of the upgrade, I don't see why Astarte should remain 3-A. She is a divinity of the Milky Way in another universe where the Human Order expanded beyond the Solar System to cover the...
  20. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Authority Layers (and a little scalling chain).

    I wouldn't say that syncretism is the same as being a 'composite' god. It's just like how Mars also counts as Ares. But for Amaterasu scaling we have this from Casko's Matrix in Extra: Basically due to syncretism Amaterasu is also the astral body of Shakyamuni. Which also ties with this...
  21. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

    What did Vlad do to earn himself a spot at the top? I would also say that Caster Gil, while lacking Ea, is not that so far away from the bottom. He was still capable of fighting Kingu and trade blows with Ereskighal in the Underworld after dying. Plus having the Cup of Uruk.
  22. Blueicemonkey

    Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

    He probably shouldn't have any of the skills that Ciel arranges for Rimuru's subordinates since those were created by them and Ciel's efforts (using Rimuru's data) instead of being skills that Veldanava had.
  23. Blueicemonkey

    Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

    It is before Veldora gets released as an Ultimate Skill and Soul Corridor was stablished. So dying in there would still count as death as everyone but Veldora.
  24. Blueicemonkey

    Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

    I don't remember the exact chapter, but here:
  25. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Revisions Part 2: Root Scaling

    Alright, my main problems (besides the other scaling stuff that it's only relevant in relationship with the Greater Grail) is this from the OP: This is not correct. The process of Wish Granting is not tied to the process of reaching the root via the Holy Grail War ritual. First, there is the...
  26. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Revisions Part 2: Root Scaling

    And in Fuyuki Cu also says that the war was restarted after the humans vanished. Even if whatever the Seraphix was doing altered the timeline, Cu was still a part of the war and there were seven servants. I posted the counter arguments and quotes that confirm that there were seven servants, and...
  27. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Revisions Part 2: Root Scaling

    At which point was this stated? Cu says that he needs to be killed for the war and the singularity to end: He also states multiple times that he was there before the was deviated: In the anime: In the manga version (Turas Realta): In the manga version (Mortalis Stella): Cu is also...
  28. Blueicemonkey

    Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

    It's fundamental enough that they might die, but not enough that they won't be able to resurrect. Veldora's Diaries already talked about True Dragons having no problem to come back even from concept destruction.
  29. Blueicemonkey

    Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

    Something related to the True Dragons. Losing it may mean death, but not a permanent one for the True Dragons, and by stealing it, Michael gained a lot of power (enough that he has the current highest known EP barring Rimuru). We know that it is distinctly separated from the Soul and the...
  30. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Revisions Part 2: Root Scaling

    The Greater Grail doesn't require anything relared to root to grant wishes. It can function partly with 5 souls, and grant wishes without activating the function to make a path into the Root at 6 souls. Already posted the process of open the hole to the root in my previous post, which I don't...
  31. Blueicemonkey

    Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

    Yeah, but in the WN he said that even with that, actually managing to pull the Time Stop/Frozen World was quite hard. A lot of his subordinates got that sub-skill thanks to Ciel using Rimuru's own skill to empower them, but Rimuru said in the WN that probably the only ones to manage the Frozen...
  32. Blueicemonkey

    Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

    One thing that I'm surprised with is that even with all the upgrades that Ciel got in the LN, she didn't give Rimuru timestop and she is supposed to still be analysing it after 6 months, while in the WN she just gave it to Rimuru in the first usage of Azathoth to compete witg Chloe.
  33. Blueicemonkey

    Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

    EoS characters have both Endless Regeneration (will regenerate as long as they have mana), multilayered barriers and time stop. Being FTL by vol 15 is already enough.
  34. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Revisions Part 2: Root Scaling

    Your Salter is the one from Fuyuki. It says so in her materials entry: Servants can be resummoned and be destroyed, just to be resummoned again. It's quire literally what happens to Jalter in Salter's Quest. Also, nobody knows why Fuyuki keeps poping up. It was destroyed at the end of it...
  35. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Revisions Part 2: Root Scaling

    The problem with that argument is that all servants get defeated by the point you end the Singularity, and Lev uses the Holy Grail at that point, so the Greater Grail was completed and Chaldea recorded that: So the later references to the Fuyuki Holy Grail should not be discarded on the basis...
  36. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Authority Layers (and a little scalling chain).

    The Sapphire Galaxy and the Primordial Universe were the same thing, unless I'm misremembering things. Zeus had the Authorities of the Titans too via the Khronos Crown. It gives him the Authorities of Khronos and Uranus. Khronos and the Titan ships were stated to be on a league of their own...
  37. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Authority Layers (and a little scalling chain).

    If we are going merely on Authority (as in which Authorities would override which and scale), shouldn't it be something like this? Space Isthar (Authority over the Primordial Universe) > Amaterasu (her Authority comes from the Universe, not from the Earth, can override the Moon Cell from...
  38. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Authority Layers (and a little scalling chain).

    Later we also got that Zeus can shatter the universe from Douman: Which is also said at the intro video that I posted earlier. Seems basically the same feat as Arjuna Alter via Shiva. Also, Super Karna is weaker than the full composite, but he could face an already weakened God Arjuna thanks...
  39. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Authority Layers (and a little scalling chain).

    They actually say that he is more powerful. I guess you are talking about this: It says it has the potential to be the last Lostbelt... But Lostbelt 5.2 also makes clear than originally only Atlantis was planned, and that it was due to to Kirsch's insistence that the others were even made...
  40. Blueicemonkey

    Nasuverse Authority Layers (and a little scalling chain).

    Isn't one of the first things said in Olympus that Zeus is more powerful than Arjuna because his composite divinity doesn't rely on wordship to be substained? And thus he can't be depowered if he lacks it (and the power of frienship). Surtr may be able to win against the other composite...
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