(7,1,0)Mori Jin vs Superman

[joshpiece]

Superman VS Mori Jin (Both 4-B)

Hopefully, this isn't a stomp

Speed equalized

This is just for fun do not take this too seriously please.

Monkey God: 7

Some guy named Clark: 1

inconclusive: 0

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

According to their profile mori doesn't ressist BFR

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

And which 4-B key? Supreme God mori? or Ragnarok Arc mori?

 

[joshpiece]

And which 4-B key? Supreme God mori? or Ragnarok Arc mori?

Whatever one is most fair.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Whatever one is most fair.

I'm nots sure but either way i think that Superman will win or stomps but gonna wait for the supporters who is more knowledgeable than me

 

[joshpiece]

I'm nots sure but either way i think that Superman will win or stomps but gonna for the supporters who is more knowledgeable than me

Well Mori has the heavy advantage in CQC unless Superman just 1-shots due to Ap

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Well Mori has the heavy advantage in CQC unless Superman just 1-shots due to Ap

I mean since it's bloodlusted superman can BFR him

 

[joshpiece]

I mean since it's bloodlusted superman can BFR him

We can restrict that as well if it makes it unfair

 

[Bernkastelll]

We can restrict that as well if it makes it unfair

You can't restrict powers

 

[joshpiece]

You can't restrict powers

You can’t restrict BFR? I don’t care about it getting added it’s just for fun

 

[joshpiece]

And what’s the fun in winning by BFR? That’s a losers win con

 

[Bernkastelll]

You can’t restrict BFR? I don’t care about it getting added it’s just for fun

Well, the thread need to be moved to Fun and Games then

And what’s the fun in winning by BFR? That’s a losers win con

A debate doesnt need to be fun, a debate is to see which character wins against each other

 

[joshpiece]

Ok so I changed the rules a lil bit and made them both in character. Unless it is extremely in character for Superman to BFR it’s not a stomp to my knowledge.

Ah some people just try to rain on other peoples parades

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Ok so I changed the rules a lil bit and made them both in character. Unless it is extremely in character for Superman to BFR it’s not a stomp to my knowledge.

Ah some people just try to rain on other peoples parades

put in fun and games if that's the cause

 

[Confluctor]

Superman's BFR is not in character. Iirc he only did it like once or twice from 1988 - 2011. So it doesn't need to be restricted as long as it's in character.

Also the counter vibration of the planet worked because of the specific conditions. I don't think it's combat applicable since he hasn't really shown it ever in combat.


Edit: here it is

Counter vibrates a phantom planet - Adventure of Superman (1987) #617

 

[joshpiece]

Superman's BFR is not in character. Iirc he only did it like once or twice from 1988 - 2011. So it doesn't need to be restricted as long as it's in character.

Also the counter vibration of the planet worked because of the specific conditions. I don't think it's combat applicable since he hasn't really shown it ever in combat.

Thank you sm my man

 

[joshpiece]

Would you happen to know the Ap values that this Superman scales to? I would not want it to be an Ap stomp

 

[Confluctor]

I suck at numbers so I will just link the blog

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Jin is the one with the ap advantage. He is atleast 5 megafoe with his multipliers

 

[Teezar]

Superman's BFR is not in character. Iirc he only did it like once or twice from 1988 - 2011. So it doesn't need to be restricted as long as it's in character.

Also the counter vibration of the planet worked because of the specific conditions. I don't think it's combat applicable since he hasn't really shown it ever in combat.


Edit: here it is

Counter vibrates a phantom planet - Adventure of Superman (1987) #617

The battle first rule was bloodlusted.

 

[Confluctor]

Even with bloodlust, superman cannot utilise his bfr in such a manner. Unless it's shown otherwise somewhere else which I am not aware of.

 

[Teezar]

Anything superman at the moment my spirit is weak by it anyways. I don't care for now.

 

[joshpiece]

I suck at numbers so I will just link the blog

Well me too and that blog is confusing asf but thank you

Jin is the one with the ap advantage. He is atleast 5 megafoe with his multipliers

And that’s not enough to 1-shot right?

 

[joshpiece]

The battle first rule was bloodlusted.

Yes sorry I didn’t know how to make this the fairest match possible. Since his BFR isn’t really combat applicable would it be better to bloodlust them? I can always change it back.

 

[Confluctor]

If Superman is bloodlusted, he is just gonna spam his heat vision alongside his usual physical attacks. (Having read thousands of his comics, he rarely relies on his hax in these kinds of situation.)

But his physical stats are insane, albeit not as good as Mori in the situation

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Who has the AP advantage?

 

[joshpiece]

If Superman is bloodlusted, he is just gonna spam his heat vision alongside his usual physical attacks. (Having read thousands of his comics, he rarely relies on his hax in these kinds of situation.)

But his physical stats are insane, albeit not as good as Mori in the situation

Well Mori does have resistance to extreme temperatures how hot is Superman’s heatvison?

Also Mori has ice manipulation but idk how helpful that’s going to be

 

[joshpiece]

Who has the AP advantage?

Jin is the one with the ap advantage. He is atleast 5 megafoe with his multipliers

 

[Teezar]

Anything superman at the moment my spirit is weak by it anyways. I don't

Well Mori does have resistance to extreme temperatures how hot is Superman’s heatvison?

Also Mori has ice manipulation but idk how helpful that’s going to be

Superman HV has durability negation

 

[joshpiece]

Superman HV has durability negation

Ah ok well in that case he has a fair win con so this isn’t a stomp

 

[joshpiece]

Mori wins CQC by being one of the most skilled martial artists in fiction history. (I can list some of his feats if people don’t believe me)

Also he can makes clones and amp himself even more by using borrowed power ( For any people that don’t read GOH it’s just an amp where you borrow power from a god or historical figure )

The heat vision would be quite a problem as if Superman lands a clean blow with it he could injure Mori/Clones and maybe even kill him with it. Although with Mori’s prediction skill he’s more than capable of reading his moves and dodging it

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Is it safe to say that mori is more skillful than sups? then mori has an advantage on AP and skill and the longer they fight the more mori adapts to sups and most of mori's abilities superman ressists

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Mori wins CQC by being one of the most skilled martial artists in fiction history. (I can list some of his feats if people don’t believe me)

Also he can makes clones and amp himself even more by using borrowed power ( For any people that don’t read GOH it’s just an amp where you borrow power from a god or historical figure )

The heat vision would be quite a problem as if Superman lands a clean blow with it he could injure Mori/Clones and maybe even kill him with it. Although with Mori’s prediction skill he’s more than capable of reading his moves and dodging it

What's CQC?

 

[joshpiece]

What's CQC?

Close quarters combat

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Anyway mori can seal superman too if superman is weakened and or tired but i'm not sure it's in character for mori to seal someone in the gourd bottle

 

[joshpiece]

Is it safe to say that mori is more skillful than sups? then mori has an advantage on AP and skill and the longer they fight the more mori adapts to sups and most of mori's abilities superman ressists

Can I take this as a vote for Mori than?

Anyway mori can seal superman too if superman is weakened and or tired but i'm not sure it's in character for mori to seal someone in the gourd bottle

And this version of Mori doesn’t have access to the gourd iirc

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

And mori can use his clones to fight superman to gain more info on how superman fights and how strong he is

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Can I take this as a vote for Mori than?

And this version of Mori doesn’t have access to the gourd iirc

is it the supreme god mori we're using?

 

[joshpiece]

is it the supreme god mori we're using?

Yes

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Yes

Ow right the gourd bottle was destroyed before he turns into supreme god