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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

RedReaper616 said:
No they were in U10. They just “left” their U10 Supreme Kai World and went into Living World U10 so they can observe from far away with the Scepter. If they went to U7, they wouldn’t have been able to make it (it takes significantly longer than 30 minutes to make it from U7 to U10, and the rewind only does 3 Minutes at max.)
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But sense the living world and supreme Kia world are fundamentally separate from eachother in the same way the universes are, (just nearer to eachother/orbiting said universe) shouldn't that still mean the time travel was affecting the shard timeline?
 
Darkmon_cns said:
But sense the living world and supreme Kia world are fundamentally separate from eachother in the same way the universes are, (just nearer to eachother/orbiting said universe) shouldn't that still mean the time travel was affecting the shard timeline?
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I mean not really? You’d just be affecting the U10 Macrocosm. That’s also still a separate thing from affecting the Space-Time of a Universe from another, totally separate, Universe. Personally, I think Whis does affect the Hypertimeline—Given how his time manipulation was stated to skew the overall axis similar to Time Travel if overused, but that's neither here or there.

I’m just clarifying the events and circumstances of that moment.
 
it's a matter of lacking evidence. i do personally think Whis can manipulate the Hypertimeline but we just dont have the explicit evidence needed for a CRT. maybe in the future
 
RedReaper616 said:
I mean not really? You’d just be affecting the U10 Macrocosm. That’s also still a separate thing from affecting the Space-Time of a Universe from another, totally separate, Universe. Personally, I think Whis does affect the Hypertimeline—Given how his time manipulation was stated to skew the overall axis similar to Time Travel if overused, but that's neither here or there.

I’m just clarifying the events and circumstances of that moment.
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I would still disagree, even though the Kia relam is counted among the universes, there is none universe space distance between it and the universe proper, by all accounts it is as separate from the universe as a different universe.
 
Darkmon_cns said:
I would still disagree, even though the Kia relam is counted among the universes, there is none universe space distance between it and the universe proper, by all accounts it is as separate from the universe as a different universe.
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It should at least give the time rewind A multi universal range
 
Omegabronic said:
there is a cosmology page linked in the verse page, that explains it better than i can
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I do not see it anywhere where it mentions why it is wrong.
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Ben 10 Cosmology

It is a big Universe, Ben, full of wonder and variety and... yes, incredible grossness.Rook to Ben This page will cover Ben 10 Terminology and Cosmology. This page will use statements from the Ben 10 series, Novels, and Other verified information from secondary sources that are supported by the...
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Ben 10

For detailed information about this franchise, visit the Ben 10 Wiki. Ben 10 is a cartoon series created by Man of Action and Cartoon Network. Four series (Ben 10, Ben 10: Alien Force, Ben 10: Ultimate Alien and Ben 10: Omniverse) exist as well as several movies. The series follows the...
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Aaaaa11112222 said:
I do not see it anywhere where it mentions why it is wrong.
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why.....what is wrong?
 
Okay so if we agree scouters worked by measuring how big someone's ki is

Are they unable to read someone with god ki? It's an unanswered question in universe but I don't think they would
 
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If God Ki is so controlled that even Earth's most skilled mortal warriors cannot sense it, then a Scouter may literally explode upon entering the vicinity of God Ki, suppressed or not. Not even because of the pressure.
 
I assume the scouter measures the ki surrounding outside of someone. But since Godki was all about keeping your ki contained and not letting it leak out at all, the scouter can't gauge it. The only time it exploded was because the power level far exceeded it's reading capacity. Which it can't do with godki. Because remember when tarble was measuring base goku's power level that version was leagues above saiyan saga goku who could make scouter not work. Yet it exploded after he powered up and leaked ki.
 
Sus said:
so is daima and super canon to each other? or do we not know so far
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We have no reason to assume it's not atm. Opponents were trying to argue Kibito Kai being separated to prove it's not canon, but that was probably a preemptive attempt to make sure any potential cosmology upgrades wouldn't apply to Super.
 
Trying to discard a plot hole that could discredit DB Daima being canon to Super as a "try to make any potential cosmology upgrade not apply to Super" truly is something
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
As for now, it is a plot hole. Maybe later on the series they fuse again, we don't know. But for now saying it's not a plot hole is just denial.
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That's not how that works. The series isn't over, we aren't even a quarter of the way through. Just because something hasn't been explained yet in an ongoing series doesn’t make it a plot hole, that's a nonsensical arguement.

It's not being 'in denial', it's not jumping to extreme conclusions.
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
That's not how that works. The series isn't over, we aren't even a quarter of the way through. Just because something hasn't been explained yet in an ongoing series doesn’t make it a plot hole, that's a nonsensical arguement.

It's not being 'in denial', it's not jumping to extreme conclusions.
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JustANormalPerson01 said:
As for now, it is a plot hole. Maybe later on the series they fuse again, we don't know. But for now saying it's not a plot hole is just denial.
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This is semantics, I think everyone knows what is meant by "plot hole" even if the precise definition of plot hole isn't agreed on.

No need to start an argument over it.
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
We have no reason to assume it's not atm. Opponents were trying to argue Kibito Kai being separated to prove it's not canon, but that was probably a preemptive attempt to make sure any potential cosmology upgrades wouldn't apply to Super.
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It's sad stuff like that happens
 
But I should also say being around the DB community that wasn't just a stunt alot of people actually did question around the time if this was retconing super or if it was canon to super
 
I sometimes like thinking about a composite dragonball character. It's awesome- imagine a guy as big as super shenron with forced sprite fission and instant transmission that can move through time easily. That's only counting canon characters as well, granted you don't actually add that much using extended universe stuff.
 
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