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Beerus buff/nerf 2 the Beebus strikes back

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1.Beerus has regen,low I think. https://youtu.be/9BhBTN4DM90 at 3:58

2.Beerus has resistance to toonforce/reailty warping https://youtu.be/7kFh8ca0te4 at 2:37 "Carful, arale. That stuff dosent work on beerus." This is also backed up by everyone yelling at beerus to not destroy arale (even her creator) and arale not trying to fight back.

3. Beerus say hes can "destroy" zamasu even after hearing hes immortal. So beerus should proably get something on his profile which says he is able to bipass the immortalitys that future zamasu has. https://youtu.be/ju21rqwvEyM

4. Idk why beerus has matter manipulation and transmution / immunity to poison when one was from the bog movie ,and the other is from the manga and this profile is for anime beerus from my understanding. So those should proably be removed.

Heres the old thread if anyones needs to look at it for some reason. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1131211?useskin=oasis
 
As I said in the previous post, I think it makes sense, the only uncertain thing is point 2.
 
Kami95 said:
As I said in the previous post, I think it makes sense, the only uncertain thing is point 2.
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Oh yeah, I was gonna respond to you but then I got side tracked and before I knew it my thread was closed lol.

But anyways

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Arale's toonforce is pretty strong. Like I mentioned earlier in that thread she can cut out the manga page with a pair of scissors, and dick on universe busters. So if beerus can resist that like gokus statment implied, and sense arale wasent confident to even try and fight beerus. Then its shows beerus resistance to toonforce/reality warping is pretty strong.
 
Well, you reasoning makes sense. The problem is that Toon Force doesn't lol

I mean, the whole point of TF is that it doesn't make sense, so a TF user could just use TF against someone who can resist is because he doesn't have to care about logic. However, if both resistance to reality warping and resistance to logic manipulation are a thing, resisting to TF should also be possible.
 
Kami95 said:
Well, you reasoning makes sense. The problem is that Toon Force doesn't lol

I mean, the whole point of TF is that it doesn't make sense, so a TF user could just use TF against someone who can resist is because he doesn't have to care about logic. However, if both resistance to reality warping and resistance to logic manipulation are a thing, resisting to TF should also be possible.
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I remember I thought about that too. But then it popped in my head that if someone is resistant to toonforce and a toonforce force user trys over ride that resistance then it still wouldnt work because there still resistant lol.

But yeah if theres resistance to those things you listed then resistance to toonforce is also possible sense all of thoses things are fairly simular.
 
Yeah that was addressed in another thread. A bunch of dragon ball threads are being closed with a vague "we should close this" with one person agreeing, then closed. Or just like above, a staff goes "no" then closes.
 
Akreious said:
Yeah that was addressed in another thread. A bunch of dragon ball threads are being closed with a vague "we should close this" with one person agreeing, then closed. Or just like above, a staff goes "no" then closes.
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Also hype, transmution/ matter minpululation got removed. Which was one of the things I asked for. Next step is to give beerus regen and resistance to toonforce.
 
Aizenishere said:
Wait what? Why? That's not very Canadian like.. To just remove an ability from a lad :(
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Tbh he really didnt need it because "lol hakai". But yeah taking away abilitys even if its the right thing to do hurts me more than anyone because im a beerus fanboy. So R.I.P
 
Aizenishere said:
GET OUT!

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Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg... and my arm... even my fingers. The body I've lost... the comrades I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our past!
 
Transmutation/Matter manipulation is removed? Are you guys sure that scene was not in the anime where he turned the egg to sand?
 
Thinking about it, if someone can prove that toriyama wrote that scene in the bog movie and it wasent toeis doing then that could be a good reason to put it back. But if not then it should stay off.
 
About Matt closing the thread, I think he was misinformed about it, so he directly closed it without even reading, I guess.
 
Had Ant scold Matt over it anyways, so that's not a problem.

1. Again, fine

2. Well there is a push for high level toon force Arale, and overall I find it okay. Did they mention he was above toon force due to his power or that it just not works on him in general? That is the deciding factor IMO.

3. Put the ability to override type 1 and 4 immortality, in fact I think its not needed as Type 4 immortaltiy can be overrided by stronger deities

4. As I said, ignore the movie iterations of him doing stuff, and include the manga feats with the caveat that its from the Manga. Toriyama is actually working more on the Manga atm, so I think we can consider them on similar footing, and allowing the manga feats if nothing is contradictory.
 
FanofRPGs said:
Had Ant scold Matt over it anyways, so that's not a problem.

1. Again, fine

2. Well there is a push for high level toon force Arale, and overall I find it okay. Did they mention he was above toon force due to his power or that it just not works on him in general? That is the deciding factor IMO.

3. Put the ability to override type 1 and 4 immortality, in fact I think its not needed as Type 4 immortaltiy can be overrided by stronger deities

4. As I said, ignore the movie iterations of him doing stuff, and include the manga feats with the caveat that its from the Manga. Toriyama is actually working more on the Manga atm, so I think we can consider them on similar footing, and allowing the manga feats if nothing is contradictory.
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1. Okay

2. Heres the quote "Carful, arale.That stuff dosent work on beerus". So from that I get the impression that it dosent work in general. But if you want, I linked the vid in the old thread so you can watch it if you really want.

3.if it was me I would put both just to get the point across to everyone.

4. There is always the chance that its toyotaros doing, but if im being honest if someone in the anime tried to poison beerus it proably wouldnt work. So its proably not to big of a deal.

Also, do I have to get a mod to add these or can I add them?
 
first we need more admin approval, which should be easy, just get Rice on here. He is the new Dragon Ball Expert around here.
 
I took care of no.4, BoG movie is retconned and it's been erased from existence for both canon and continuity. DBS manga >>>>> BoG movie in canon and continuity
 
I might as well give my views too.

1. Beerus definitely showed regen, so yeah, it should be on his page. There is no denying that.

2. "Careful Arale! That stuff doesn't work on Beerus sama" does imply that Arale's toonforce won't work on him. So whatever level is decided for Arale's toonforce, Beerus should get the resistance. Or maybe "Limited Resistance to Toonforce" because there are characters with much impressive toonforce than Arale.

3. Beerus was confident that he would've destroyed Zamasu if he were allowed to go in the future. So whatever type of immortality Zamasy had, Beerus should be able to bypass that.

4. Already taken care of.
 
AKM sama said:
I might as well give my views too.
1. Beerus definitely showed regen, so yeah, it should be on his page. There is no denying that.

2. "Careful Arale! That stuff doesn't work on Beerus sama" does imply that Arale's toonforce won't work on him. So whatever level is decided for Arale's toonforce, Beerus should get the resistance. Or maybe "Limited Resistance to Toonforce" because there are characters with much impressive toonforce than Arale.

3. Beerus was confident that he would've destroyed Zamasu if he were allowed to go in the future. So whatever type of immortality Zamasy had, Beerus should be able to bypass that.

4. Already taken care of.
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Well its being suggested Arale has high level (not god tier) toon force as she could rewrite reality and cut off the page once IIRC
 
I'm still very iffy about suddenly giving Beerus to Toon Force, especially when it's only a one time occurrence, nowhere else.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
I'm still very iffy about suddenly giving Beerus to Toon Force, especially when it's only a one time occurrence, nowhere else.
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He could still have resistance to toonforce even if Arale's TF isn't strong enough. It would just mean stronger TF users can still affect him, it's not making Beerus immune to TF
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
I'm still very iffy about suddenly giving Beerus to Toon Force, especially when it's only a one time occurrence, nowhere else.
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Except I doubt they are going to bring back Arale. The show only has one toon-force based episode, in which some characters are shown to be succeptable and some are immune. Beerus falls in the latter camp.

Plus Arale has some decent toon-force, being able to saw off the page IIRC, cracking stars which are balls of plasma-gas, etc
 
What is being proposed specifically, and why? You should preferably ask the people listed under Dragon Ball in this page to give input here.
 
Half the wiki has things listed that only happened once kukui . Not a very good reason to shoot ut down on that man .
 
Antvasima said:
What is being proposed specifically, and why? You should preferably ask the people listed under Dragon Ball in this page to give input here.
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Click on the link for my old thread. Thats where I made all my points and why. Also, I will ask people from that page for input later.
 
You should edit your first post to clarify what is being proposed. Othervise the people who see this thread will turn confused.
 
Antvasima said:
You should edit your first post to clarify what is being proposed. Othervise the people who see this thread will turn confused.
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When I reread it the only one which could be kind of confusing is the 3rd one. So I fixed that one up a bit. But all the others seem pretty clear.
 
I meant that you have to clearly present your arguments in the first post of this thread.
 
1) Somebody else will have to check this.

2) This seems like too much speculation.

3) We probably need more proof.

4) Agreed, although I think that I removed one of the abilities because of this reason.
 
About #3:

Type 1 doesn't help against Hakai.

Type 2 doesn't either.

Type 3 doesn't when your regen is Low-Mid.

Type 4 is moot when Beerus is a stronger deity.

Basically noting that he can kill him is redundant, because we already know it.
 
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