Ben 10 vs Conquest | "A child? This is the best this planet has to offer?"

[GeneralSol16]

Mark and Eve have been defeated, the Viltrumite that just arrived was shown to be too strong for any of them, but a 10 years old kid appeared put of nowhere, claiming to be Earth's Greatest Hero, looking for a new challenge, Conquest decides to take out that child, just to see how he raises his hand and slaps that weird looking watch, exclaiming "IT'S HERO TIME!"

• Conquest is fighting Ben, who has Master Control and starts as XLR8.
• Ben has prior knowledge on Conquest's AP advantage.
• Equalized speed, 20m from each other.
• Battle takes place on the city where Mark and Conquest fought.

Hero:
Villain:
Incon:

 

[DemonicDude]

What's the Attack Potency of Conquest?
Does Ben has Reboot Alien X ? (who is 15.84 Zettatons Low 5-B) and Reboot Way Big scales to that

 

[PedjaTarzan]

What's the Attack Potency of Conquest?

1.7 zettatons

 

[DemonicDude]

1.7 zettatons

He starts as Way Big (according to creator of this thread)
15.84 Zettatons vs 1.70 Zettatons
that's 9.31x Ap advantage for Reboot Ben.
Lifting Strength: Class G Way Big vs Class Z. Conquest has Lifting Strength advantage.

 

[GeneralSol16]

What's the Attack Potency of Conquest?
Does Ben has Reboot Alien X ? (who is 15.84 Zettatons Low 5-B) and Reboot Way Big scales to that

He doesn't have X.

 

[DemonicDude]

He doesn't have X.

Alright Master Control means his normal aliens and Omni kix, Omni Naut version too.
Either way, we'll get to that later if needed for now this is the situation.

He starts as Way Big (according to creator of this thread)
15.84 Zettatons vs 1.70 Zettatons
that's 9.31x Ap advantage for Reboot Ben.
Lifting Strength: Class G Way Big vs Class Z. Conquest has Lifting Strength advantage.

 

[GeneralSol16]

He starts as Way Big (according to creator of this thread)
15.84 Zettatons vs 1.70 Zettatons
that's 9.31x Ap advantage for Reboot Ben.
Lifting Strength: Class G Way Big vs Class Z. Conquest has Lifting Strength advantage.

Should I change Ben's starting form?

 

[DemonicDude]

Should I change Ben's starting form?

Only Alien X and Way Big are Low 5-B rest at 5-C at their highest.
Both Alien X and Way Big have 9.31x ap advantage which is considered One shot at psychomaster and Arkansalter2 mentioned in my old threads.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

He starts as Way Big (according to creator of this thread)
15.84 Zettatons vs 1.70 Zettatons
that's 9.31x Ap advantage for Reboot Ben.
Lifting Strength: Class G Way Big vs Class Z. Conquest has Lifting Strength advantage.

Dont Think LS advantage can prevent him from getting one shot

 

[GeneralSol16]

Only Alien X and Way Big are Low 5-B rest at 5-C at their highest.
Both Alien X and Way Big have 9.31x ap advantage which is considered One shot at psychomaster and Arkansalter2 mentioned in my old threads.

What about now?

 

[DemonicDude]

• Conquest is fighting Ben, who has Master Control and starts as XLR8.
• Ben has prior knowledge on Conquest's AP advantage.
• Equalized speed, 20m from each other.
• Battle takes place on the city where Mark and Conquest fought.

So he starts at Xlr 8 (base form)

XLR8 (Reboot)

XLR8 (pronounced "Accelerate") is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Kineceleran from the planet Kinet. He is Ben's fastest alien in the Reboot on ground. Tier: High 6-A | 5-C when Omni-Enhanced and Omni-Kix Name: XLR8 Origin: Ben 10 Reboot Gender: Male Age: Unknown Classification: Alien...

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Xlr 8 and rest of base form aliens are
19.49 Exatons (High 6-A+)
but according to your rules "Ben has prior knowledge" of conquest being 1.7 Zettatons (Low 5-B)
in this case wouldn't Ben turn into Way Big and AP stomp him ?

anyways back to Xlr8, Conquest holds speed advantage on xlr8 to with Conquest being MFTL+

(Unless you wanna go Omni Kix version of xlr8 which has Infinite speed


Is the speed equalized here ?
here are vsbattle rules about Speed Equalization:
The combat speed of the faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc

 

[GeneralSol16]

Equalized speed

Is the speed equalized here ?

.

 

[DemonicDude]

Does Conquest AP stomp xlr8? (high6-a + vs low 5-b situation) the way I see it if Ben has his opponent info of being higher in AP then he'd go Way Big

 

[GeneralSol16]

Does Conquest AP stomp xlr8? the way I see it if Ben has his opponent info of being higher in AP then he'd go Way Big

He knows he's way stronger than his aliens, but not to go immediately for Way Big .

 

[DemonicDude]

He knows he's way stronger than his aliens, but not to go immediately for Way Big .

in that case Low 5-B Conquest one shots high 6-A+ base form Xlr8

 

[GeneralSol16]

in that case Low 5-B Conquest one shots high 6-A+ base form Xlr8

Yes, ik, but XLR8 has the travel speed to dodge afaik.
If I go for his strongest non way Big form, would it work better?

 

[DemonicDude]

Yes, ik, but XLR8 has the travel speed to dodge afaik.

playing defense until he eventually runs out of Omnitrix timer isn't good either.

If I go for his strongest non way Big form, would it work better?

Wouldn't that be Shock Rock Omni Naut who is 5-C and high Regen stomps? idk weird situation here

 

[DemonicDude]

wait doesn't Conquest has better Regen and Lifting Strength advantage against Way Big, that should not make way big vs conquest a stomp... come to think of it

 

[Lort15]

let xlr8 blitz him xddd

 

[Cropfist]

Can Ben just scan Viltrumite DNA?

 

[DemonicDude]

Can Ben just scan Viltrumite DNA?

DNA scanner in reboot only exist as a tweet by Duncan Rouleau.
It has never ever been used in the show.

so no

 

[Lort15]

DNA scanner in reboot only exist as a tweet by Duncan Rouleau.
It has never ever been used in the show.

so no

nah the goons in nullvoid were scared of getting their DNA scanned after touching the omnitrix