Bleach Powernull Resistance

[Reio35]

.Power Nullification Resistance for ichigo,gremmy and aizen

So the seki seki barrier around SS is made to nullify spirit energy


Chapter 84
So in short sekki breaks down,blocks and disintegrates anything with spirit energy. Essentially nullifying it. And in bleach everything is based on spiritual energy including abilities. The only way you can break though sekki is using a device. However we see severely characters break through these barriers with raw power alone. Gremmy with his meteor,aizen with hado 90 and his spirit energy, ichigo when coming down from the soul palace ect.

 

[Reio35]

Lille barro as well

 

[Purgy]

Disagree with Gremmy because it was explicitly noted that the sekkiseki barrier couldn't handle something that big, so it's more of a limit on the barrier, neutral on the other two.

Since it's similar to this thread, I think Ichigo should have resistance to deconstruction as well, given that he flew right through the barrier and it's stated to break down spirit matter and disintegrate it.

 

[Reio35]

Disagree with Gremmy because it was explicitly noted that the sekkiseki barrier couldn't handle something that big, so it's more of a limit on the barrier, neutral on the other two.

Since it's similar to this thread, I think Ichigo should have resistance to deconstruction as well, given that he flew right through the barrier and it's stated to break down spirit matter and disintegrate it.

The barrier isn't weak could stop a attack from soul king yhwach

It only slipped through the cracks made by the mimihagi

On that note the mimihagi should powernull resistance as well

 

[Purgy]

The barrier isn't weak could stop a attack from soul king yhwach

It only slipped through the cracks made by the mimihagi

On that note the mimihagi should powernull resistance as well

Nothing I said has anything to do with the barriers strength, rather it's explicitly stated that the barrier couldn't destroy the meteor in time because it was too big.

 

[Reio35]

blocked an attack for yhwach

At first they thought the barrier would destroy it but came to a conclusion it was cuz of it's mass. But ehh i don't think random soul reaper really knows what happened as they seem unsure

 

[Reio35]

Nothing I said has anything to do with the barriers strength, rather it's explicitly stated that the barrier couldn't destroy the meteor in time because it was too big.

That's fine but still 3 other characters broke it. And the mimihagi can be disregarded he didn't actually break it.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Ichigo was wearing special robes that specifically enabled him to smash through barriers with little resistance. Aizen's Kurohitsugi > Gremmy's meteor, so it's possible his Hado is outside the Shakonmaku's threshold of protection rather than power null resistance. Purgy explained what happened with Gremmy's meteor already.

I'm neutral, leaning towards disagreeing. Solely because high spiritual power for Shinigami-like beings can neg lower spiritual power, so it could be a DBZ case of just chadding through it. Which is the only argument I can see for supporting it, i.e. they're so much stronger than Shakonmaku's power null they resist it.

 

[Reio35]

Ichigo was wearing special robes that specifically enabled him to smash through barriers with little resistance. Aizen's Kurohitsugi > Gremmy's meteor, so it's possible his Hado is outside the Shakonmaku's threshold of protection rather than power null resistance. Purgy explained what happened with Gremmy's meteor already.

I'm neutral, leaning towards disagreeing. Solely because high spiritual power for Shinigami-like beings can neg lower spiritual power, so it could be a DBZ case of just chadding through it. Which is the only argument I can see for supporting it, i.e. they're so much stronger than Shakonmaku's power null they resist it.

It let's him bypass the soul palace barriers not the shakonmaku. Which he hard time getting through unlike the soul king barriers which just opened for him.

And i already showed a example og the barrier blocking yhwachs attack so no it isn't weak by any means

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

It let's him bypass the soul palace barriers not the shakonmaku. Which he hard time getting through unlike the soul king barriers which just opened for him.

And i already showed a example og the barrier blocking yhwachs attack so no it isn't weak by any means

TBF we never actually see how Ichigo went through Reiokyu barriers, perhaps he smashed through each barrier with a skull explosion.

 

[Reio35]

TBF we never actually see how Ichigo went through Reiokyu barriers, perhaps he smashed through each barrier with a skull explosion.

Nope here we are shown one of the barriers and it simply opened for ichigo

Next panel he travels to the Shakonmaku barrier and theirs this huge explosion snd ichigo crashes into a building ⬇⬇⬇

Ichibie tells ichigo how the oken protects him from any friction/resistance.

However when ichigo got to the Shakonmaku their was clear resistants. It caused a explosion and caused him to hit a building

 

[Reio35]

Yhwach even notes how only the oken can get through them hes obviously not talking about the Shakonmaku as gremmy and others have broken through it without the oken

 

[KazuiK]

I agree about Ichigo but about the others I have the same thoughts as the others

 

[Reio35]

Any mods wanna comment?

 

[M11UTD]

I agree on Ichigo and Aizen. Gremmy didn't resist it himself so I'm iffy about it.

 

[KazuiK]

Since this is an addition, it could include the denial or nullification of type 4 immortality (reincarnation) for the Quincys and Ichibei. Souls killed by Quincys are unable to reincarnate, Ichibei is due to their ability.

 

[AKUTO123]

yes there may be a power null resistance for Ichigo but I'm not sure about the other two

 

[RoyGundam]

because high spiritual power for Shinigami-like beings can neg lower spiritual power

What all instances are there in support of this ?

 

[PrinceofPein]

What all instances are there in support of this ?

the entire bleach series

 

[Damage3245]

Definitely against this for Gremmy. More neutral towards Ichigo; maybe it can be mentioned under the part about his robes in his Equipment section.

 

[RoyGundam]

the entire bleach series

What incidents specifically? Because the most explicit instance of higher spiritual power negating a technique (that I can remember) is Aizen negating Nigeki Kessatsu (he literally says that he negated the ability) but that entire thing could just have been him trolling as he'd already put everyone under complete hypnosis

 

[SilentBob34]

What incidents specifically? Because the most explicit instance of higher spiritual power negating a technique (that I can remember) is Aizen negating Nigeki Kessatsu (he literally says that he negated the ability) but that entire thing could just have been him trolling as he'd already put everyone under complete hypnosis

There’s also Ichigo getting hurt trying to cut Kenpachi because his spirit energy wasn’t high enough

 

[M11UTD]

The Robs did nothing in protecting Ichigo, they were only for the barriers between SS and SKP. Unless someone can post a scan that suggests otherwise.

 

[RoyGundam]

There’s also Ichigo getting hurt trying to cut Kenpachi because his spirit energy wasn’t high enough

But that's really not powernull. More like an invisible armor

 

[Reio35]

Definitely against this for Gremmy. More neutral towards Ichigo; maybe it can be mentioned under the part about his robes in his Equipment section.

Where is this?

And i already proved its no due to the oken robes as they only help him get through the through the barriers around the soul kings Palace seamlessly. However theirs was clear resistance when he tried to get through the seki seki barrier.

 

[KazuiK]

To be accepted do you need the consent of a staff?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Yes

 

[Reio35]

Bump

 

[Loyd]

oh this is interesting agree for ichigo and aizen aswell

 

[KazuiK]

Disagree with Gremmy because it was explicitly noted that the sekkiseki barrier couldn't handle something that big, so it's more of a limit on the barrier, neutral on the other two.

Since it's similar to this thread, I think Ichigo should have resistance to deconstruction as well, given that he flew right through the barrier and it's stated to break down spirit matter and disintegrate it.

wouldn't it be resistance to manipulation of matter?

 

[Reio35]

I need this approved yesterday

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Forgot this existed

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Bump

 

[Loyd]

BUMP!

 

[Loyd]

bump..

 

[Loyd]

BuMp!!

too sum it up:
Everyone seems fine with true shikai ichigo key onwards (should preferably be noted for his clothing)
Aizen seems neutral
Gremmy Disagree

 

[M11UTD]

What y'all waiting for exactly?

 

[Loyd]

What y'all waiting for exactly?

not sure tbh im just keeping it alive

 

[Reio35]

Yup this is why we need more bleach moderators.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

One day, one day