Commander Shepard vs Lady (Devil May Cry)

[Stillwinston]

Alright so did a match with Lady back in the day against Magician that sadly got outdated, wanted to try and look for matches with Shepard so lets try it.

• Speed is equalised
• Soldier Shepard is being used
• Shepard's tier 8 weapons and shields are restricted
• 9-A for both is being used.
• Fight takes place in New York City, both are 60 metres apart and start with no line of sight
• SBA otherwise

Human Spectre: 1

Demon Hunter: 0

Incon: 0

Commander Shepard

We don't know how many the Collectors have stolen. Thousands, hundreds of thousands. It's not important. What matters is this: Not. One. More. That's what we can do here, today. It ends with us. They want to know what we're made of? I say we show them, on our terms. Let's bring our people...

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Lady (Devil May Cry)

"Lady" is a young Devil Hunter, she crosses paths with Dante as he took a job to take out Arkham, who is later revealed to be Lady's father. Despite her prowess, she is no match for Dante and is merely toyed with in every encounter with him. After the Temen-ni-gru incident is resolved, Lady and...

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[Tony_di_bugalu]

Pretty sure Shepard takes this with more versatility, higher strength, more stamina and likely more weapons

 

[CRYING_POTATO_55]

yeah but doesn't lady one shot if she gets a single hit

 

[Stillwinston]

From what I'm seeing Lady is causally above 7.59KG for being able to no sell her missiles. Shepard can harm the Shadow Broker, who is superior to Krogan like Drack and Wrex. The former can casually do 12.79KG feats and Shepard fights Krogan and fodders them, I'd argue they're comparable in AP there though Shep is better.

 

[CRYING_POTATO_55]

no doesn't lady have soul hax

 

[Stillwinston]

What? That has nothing to do with the fight, I'm just stating my argument for their AP. Moving on can I ask what skill feats we can get for Lady? I know a list of them for Shepard.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

no doesn't lady have soul hax

Afaik no

From what I'm seeing Lady is causally above 7.59KG for being able to no sell her missiles. Shepard can harm the Shadow Broker, who is superior to Krogan like Drack and Wrex. The former can casually do 12.79KG feats and Shepard fights Krogan and fodders them, I'd argue they're comparable in AP there though Shep is better.

also IIRC she didn't tank anything so I may end up downgrading her in the future

 

[Stillwinston]

Afaik no

also IIRC she didn't tank anything so I may end up downgrading her in the future

But isn't she like right next to the missile when it goes off? Kinda sounds like she was alright there I suppose

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Gae Tony

 

[Stillwinston]

Bump

 

[Stillwinston]

Bump

 

[Stillwinston]

Bump

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I still keep my vote, ez win for Shepard

 

[Stillwinston]

Bump

 

[Random-Helper323]

Does Lady even have a wincon? Lower AP, no hax, completely outdone in every regard.

 

[Robo432343]

stompish

 

[Random-Helper323]

stompish

Poor Lady is kind of a cockroach both in her verse and outside of it. Maybe she should've fought Pluto so we can see an actual cockroach stomp a human.

 

[Stillwinston]

I mean she can fly around like a cracked rooster and blow Shepard up with missiles and their AP should be comparable, hax wise Soldier Shepard doesn't have anything really. His ammo types should probably be resisted by her considering all the stuff in DMC (Idk how she scales resist wise so take that as is I guess). Adrenaline Rush could help Shep tag her and Concussive Shot can work with slight homing but considering her flying around it'd be hard to tag her with it. She can do stuff I'm pretty sure though Shep should have the skill edge

 

[Random-Helper323]

I actually found a feat I think would upgrade Lady's Kalina Ann.



It is the crater it makes in the ground. I measured it roughly as:

Crater is about 7 inches less wide than Dante's height of 6 feet. So 170cm.

Crater is a semicircle, which according to this page and this page is measured as

(4 X 3.14 X radius cubed)/3

Radius is 85cm.

So (4 X 3.14 X 85^3)/3 = 2,571,136.66666

Divide by two because it's a semicircle rather than a full circle.

11,285,568.33333 cubic centimetres.

Given we see lots of dust fly up, and no distinguishable pieces, it looks like pulverization, which is 214 J/cc.

11,285,568.33333 X 214 = 2,415,111,623J

2.4 GJ

0.574 tons of TNT

That would be 8-C.


If it was violent fragmentation, it would be 815,962,149J, 815 megajoules. 0.195 Tons of TNT, still 9-A but much higher in it.

This would probably need a more precise calculation, but still.

 

[Random-Helper323]

This feat might upgrade her small arms as well.



She is able to pulverize a mass of demon flesh significantly bigger than her own body. If we treat it as comparable to human flesh, then it would be 12.9J/cc. If we use Lady's height as the minimum size, and a circle, it would be:

(4 X 3.14 X 87^3) / 3 = 2,756,932.56 joules. 2.75 megajoules, 0.001 tons of TNT. So if we lowball this we get close to 9-A.

These could result in something if given to an actual calc expert.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Make a thread for those, otherwise they won't be of any worth for us

 

[Random-Helper323]

Make a thread for those, otherwise they won't be of any worth for us

RedReaper said he'd run them by KLOL.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Still needs a calc blog otherwise stuff won't be usable also Reaper and KLOL are gae

 

[Random-Helper323]

Still needs a calc blog otherwise stuff won't be usable also Reaper and KLOL are gae

I don't think I can measure it specifically enough to use it. Who should I go to? I guess I could ask Cloverdragon03.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I don't think I can measure it specifically enough to use it. Who should I go to? I guess I could ask Cloverdragon03.

AFAIK you need to make a blog then ask people in the calc thread to check it out

 

[Random-Helper323]

AFAIK you need to make a blog then ask people in the calc thread to check it out

If I make a blog myself based on those feats people will just bounce it back for being too rough.

 

[Stillwinston]

Honestly wondered about her guns and why she wasn't just 9-A in general, anyhow guess that counts as a bump lol

 

[Random-Helper323]

I actually think we should also be looking for feats from lesser demons Lady scales above, because I think there might be some upgrades there too. As things currently stand Lady is perhaps the weakest 9-A there is; only one attack which is 9-A, that attack having very low AP in the tier, and durability matching that attack, all with no hax. There's a reason all her versus threads basically consist of her opponent handing her butt cheeks to her on a silver platter.

 

[Stillwinston]

Can't she just spam missiles? Been awhile since I saw her fight but can't she do danmaku?