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Demigra VS Omega Flowey

He died from the destruction of only his physica body. He definitely doesn't have Mid-Godly Regenerationn.
 
Well for one, it's impossible for Demigra to really kill Flowey due to SAVE and LOAD.

There is also nothing stopping him from going back in time to Paradox Demigra since Demigra lacks paradox immunity unlike Flowey, and that's if Flowey decides to outright kill Demigra immediately instead of fighting him Normally which he wins anyway because again, Save and Load.

Even if he does have Mid Godly, Paradox kills him.
 
I think it was SSJRyu1 who made a thread adding it but I'm not sure.


What regen would regenerating from the destruction of your entire body qualify at?
 
It was counted as Mid-Godly because he regenerated after the destruction of his essence according to SSJ Ryu.
 
The description SSJRyu gave on it is blatantly resurrection. He even mentions that Demigra was dead.
 
It is somewhat justified as all remnants of his essence was destroyed as if even any essence was left behind his power would be still affecting the Multiverse as shown when just his physical body was destroyed.
 
The Everlasting is correct about this matter. Not to mention if he could indeed revive himself he would have done so by Xenoverse 2 (2 years after his death).
 
Bluetrekking said:
It is somewhat justified as all remnants of his essence was destroyed as if even any essence was left behind his power would be still affecting the Multiverse as shown when just his physical body was destroyed.
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Well he did have control over all time and space when he was alive so he could have likely have spawn those wormholes before he had died.
 
demigra was destroyed body and soul, he did not wind up in after life where he could easily escape and is never shown in and even his residule energy was destroyed to after death. He then regenerates from nothing in heroes of his wn accord. He also can ressurect as stated that when he died in heroes he ressurects again. So he would have both. Also he has time paradox immunity, his old self being powered up and even dying had no effect on him in heroes, also he is outside the flow of time and beyond time and space.
 
I dont see why not. He is destroyed completly without a trace and comes back from nothing of his own accord.
 
Yes, in xenoverse he is shown to be destroyed by the pattroler completly and does not simply got to other world where he coudl easily leave and effect things from, adn is not present there when the pattroler fights in Hell. Even his residule left over energy is destroyed by the pattroler after this in the post game arcs. Then in heroes he comes back from this and regens from nothing to start the events there. He is also killed in heroes and ressurects in there to.


Also he gave his power to chamel upon his defeat which explains why he can't seemingly revive anymore, and the events of heroes take place beetween xenvoerse and Xenvoerse 2, although it is time travel so this fluctuates.
 
SSJRyu1 said:
Yes, in xenoverse he is shown to be destroyed by the pattroler completly and does not simply got to other world where he coudl easily leave and effect things from, adn is not present there when the pattroler fights in Hell. Even his residule left over energy is destroyed by the pattroler after this in the post game arcs. Then in heroes he comes back from this and regens from nothing to start the events there. He is also killed in heroes and ressurects in there to.
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He's not destroyed completely. He dies. He doesn't go to Hell, but he's still getting killed. He's not wiped entirely from existence or something. As you said yourself, there is even residual energy left behind.

I'm also pretty sure that Demigra travelling back to aid his past self as an event occurs before the first Xenoverse, because Trunks has no idea who Demigra is. Or one could argue it a separate series of events, as I'm pretty sure Trunks doesn't know who Demigra is at first in Xenoverse, either (that one I may be forgetting, though).
 
I don't think Trunks knew Demigra up until he revealed himself. He only knew about him from Supreme Kai of Time.
 
The issue with that is all the residule energy is destroyed to, so no trace afterwad, and he is still dead at that point to as stated that the energy is acting after death on its own, but it is then also destroyed to meanig his body soul and enrgy are all wiped out at that point end of Xenoverse 1. Then in Heroes he just regens from nothing and goes to help his former self, then his former self dies, then he is killed, then he ressurects again and is even strogner, then he gets beat again and gives his pwoer to chamel at which point he presumably can't ressurect anymore sicne he gave his power to Chamel.


Nah, he goes back and tells his past self to become a demon god and take toki toki to gain power and works with him, he already ahs demon god pwoers hence post toki toki, and is refered to as dead predating this by the patrol to solidify they think he is dead. Technically the time travel aspect brigns him back to the past, but in relation to himself it is post xenvoerse events.
 
@Julian

I more meant because in Xenoverse, Trunks first hears about and then meets Demigra and his response is, "Who?". Then in the Heroes' Demon God Demigra saga, he meets Demigra and his response is, "Who?". Which is why I'm saying the continuity doesn't exactly have to line up, which also explains Demigra's Heroes' version being more powerful.
 
SSJRyu1 said:
Nah, he goes back and tells his past self to become a demon god and take toki toki to gain power and works with him, he already ahs demon god pwoers hence post toki toki, and is refered to as dead predating this by the patrol to solidify they think he is dead. Technically the time travel aspect brigns him back to the past, but in relation to himself it is post xenvoerse events.
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Then why does Trunks not know who he is, and why does Chronoa act like he should be dead if at this point, she would have merely sealed him?
 
Well xenovese happens before heroes so it would make sense trunks didnt recognize him as it is his first time seeign him.

Basically demigra is erased in xenvoese, they think hes dead, he regens in heroes and the events take place there where he goes to teh past to empower his past self adn team up with him, past self dies, demigra dies, he ressurects adn is beaten and gives his pwoer to chamel. then X2 starts some time after.
 
Heroes story scenes are hard to find, and also usually all Japanese. All I can find is summaries. Though the context is Trunks and Chronoa returning from fighting Towa and Mira's forces in the demon realm.

"Shortly after Future Trunks and Chronoa return to the Time Nest, Demigra suddenly reveals himself, when Future Trunks asks who he is it is explained by Chronoa that Demigra is one of the wizards who created the Demon Realm, but that he was sealed away. Chronoa asks him about his apparent ally Towa but Demigra states that he is not allied with those trying to unseal the Demon Realm and that with the magic power he has been storing over the ages he will rule everything by stealing both Tokitoki and the position of Supreme Kai of Time. Demigra then takes his leave."

It seems to be portrayed as an alternate story to Demigra's one in Xenoverse.
 
The game was translated for the most part but I don't remember Trunks not recognising Demigra. Translations here: [1]
 
That is pretty much summing up the first portion of events in Xenvoerse prior to final battle. I dont recall heroes trunks not recognizing him. After all he is referanced as being dead and helps his past self first thing in heroes after coming back become a demon god, the fact he no longer needed toki toki adn was superior at that point implies post xenvoerse futher.
 
SSJRyu1 said:
That is pretty much summing up the first portion of events in Xenvoerse prior to final battle. I dont recall heroes trunks not recognizing him. After all he is referanced as being dead and helps his past self first thing in heroes after coming back become a demon god, the fact he no longer needed toki toki adn was superior at that point implies post xenvoerse futher.
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What? His entire plan was to get his past self Toki Toki. He, which is stopped when Chronoa and Beat go back in time to oppose him.

The first meeting in Heroes couldn't have taken place after Xenoverse, because Demigra was still supposed to have been sealed at that point, while after Xenoverse he was dead.

It couldn't have taken place immediately after Trunks first sees him in Xenoverse, because Chronoa actively goes back in time after Demigra to confront him.

It also couldn't have taken place before Xenoverse, because he dies at the end of the saga in Heroes, and isn't revived until later, while in Xenoverse he was still sealed.

The timeline doesn't match up.
 
That is his new plan, he already had such power from the events in xenoverse prior. They refer to him as supposed to be dead in heroes to.

"Demigra revives after his apparent destruction, and travels back 75,000,000 years to his first battle with Chronoa"

The events do take place in the past, but after they time travel to the past, Demigra comes from the future to got to the past and team up with his former self, but his present self already experienced the events of Xenvorse and came back after them, hence why they thought he should be dead and he already had demon god power surpassign his former self even without toki toki.

It doesn't, those events would occur after his defeat in X1. That summary simply doesn't finish up the story in between is all, it leaves out how he origionally died before coming back in heroes, which we see in xenvoerse.

Xenvoese happens prior to heroes though so I don't see why he would be sealed sicne he escaped in xenoverse.
 
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