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Denji vs. Ellen Joe (Chainsaw Man vs. Zenless Zone Zero) | [4-7-1] (GRACE)

i'd probably be down to do that, though idk who else in the cast i'd put against him tbh
I dunno anything about ZZZ or the skill chain or who has the better powers or whatever. But I know there's team's. If there's not an individually really good character you could do Denji vs a team since I'm pretty sure his post fear boosted has an AP advantage and gained abilities.
 
I dunno anything about ZZZ or the skill chain or who has the better powers or whatever. But I know there's team's. If there's not an individually really good character you could do Denji vs a team since I'm pretty sure his post fear boosted has an AP advantage and gained abilities.
the cunning hares. vs post FB denji could be interesting then maybe. or if we technically wanna do a runback of this MU i could also do victoria housekeeping vs. denji when their team profile gets made
 
i'd probably be down to do that, though idk who else in the cast i'd put against him tbh
maybe the Obol squad members page when they get published, or the Section 6 members (I saw Miyabi have her profiles but I didn't check the others, which I assume they might already published)
 
I haven't been able to keep up, but I've seen the reactions buff. You should switch this matchup to Post-Weakening Denji to make this more leveled. I'll read through prior arguments once I'm free.
I think it's pretty close right now, considering the whole thing hinges on skill: Denji looking for an opening to attack Ellen, and Ellen trying to wear down Denji's stamina before he can regenerate. And let's not forget the stamina factor.

Btw, I'm going to vote for Ellen lol.
 
maybe the Obol squad members page when they get published, or the Section 6 members (I saw Miyabi have her profiles but I didn't check the others, which I assume they might already published)
All 4 core members of Section 6 have profiles yea, tho idk if it'd be a good matchup lol
 
All 4 core members of Section 6 have profiles yea, tho idk if it'd be a good matchup lol
i think miyabi by herself would be a bit too strong for that specific version of denji. i was kinda thinking of doing miyabi vs. pochita but pochita might be too strong for her. maybe her and yixuan vs. pochita when yixuan's profile gets made?
 
i think miyabi by herself would be a bit too strong for that specific version of denji. i was kinda thinking of doing miyabi vs. pochita but pochita might be too strong for her. maybe her and yixuan vs. pochita when yixuan's profile gets made?
Funnily enough, I'm planning to make Miyabi vs General Grievous and the latter managed to outclass Pochita in an ongoing vs thread
 
Funnily enough, I'm planning to make Miyabi vs General Grievous and the latter managed to outclass Pochita in an ongoing vs thread
hmmm, maybe i'll think more on it and decide whether or not i wanna make it then

also funnily enough i briefly considered doing miyabi vs. vader for a bit, but i think force hax would make that a bit too unfair
 
There's no way ya'll verse is capped at Class 100. Even the current Class 100 feat isn't as high as it should be as it doesn't account for force for accelerating the sword. But there's gotta be better feats. I mean one chick uses a black hole for eff sake 😭
 
There's no way ya'll verse is capped at Class 100. Even the current Class 100 feat isn't as high as it should be as it doesn't account for force for accelerating the sword. But there's gotta be better feats. I mean one chick uses a black hole for eff sake 😭
to be fair we do technically have a class M feat but like, nobody can reaaally scale to it, it's weird

there's probably better LS feats but naito's our only calcer so, we're not exactly rushing them to calc every single thing the game has to offer
 
to be fair we do technically have a class M feat but like, nobody can reaaally scale to it, it's weird

there's probably better LS feats but naito's our only calcer so, we're not exactly rushing them to calc every single thing the game has to offer
I could maybe help out. But I'd really say start by calculating the force of the current Class 100 feat cuz everyone scales off of that, and it'd upgrade the feat to Class K
 
It's likely that Disney's Star Wars will stop using 8-A and start using higher ratings, so I don't recommend it.
not yet, I think there's still the scaling chain, a Yoda rework which will be part of the CRT and some other stuff.


anyways if y'all gonna make that matchup, wait a lil I'm currently making a crt on Grievous
 
Even while Ellen is dressed like a stereotypical french maid, and has an actually rather large chest, unironically even bigger than Makima's (can't believe I'm saying this). That does not stop Denji from defending himself in a literal life & death scenario.

Let us not forget, while Power and Denji where going to save Meowy, the literal moment Denji figured out Power was gonna sacrifice him. He immediately went on the offensive-defensive, even when he went out there with her in the first place (which was of course against Public Safety Protocol).



Even with all that, in combat Ellen absolutely has advantage with INSANE acrobatics (def needs more than just Hypermobility), and then there's Vital View with amping her reactions and perception speed by 34 TIMES. I feel like that makes it borderline Impossible to hit her.
 
This fight depends exclusively of a possibly rating, if Ellen has that, she wins, if not, Denji wins

We could have both outcomes in the pages-
 
Ehh, Ellen still has a win without Vital View, her movements are way too insane and sleek
 
I do have the other MU for Miyabi on the bag so you get my approval
changes are done
 
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