Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Jaakor48]

Guys, how many SSJ3 multiplier statements do we have?

Same as ssj and ssj2


One I believe

All three multipliers came from the same guide iirc



I have no idea why they rejected the 4x boost, claiming it was too small, then chose to leave it without an actual boost which ironically made it even smaller

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

You guys almost got infinite speed, you could use teleportation to get infinite speed

Nobody in the series ever reacted to Teleportation, so get infinite speed from i t would be useless ngl

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

I wouldn't mind all the multipliers from the guide books.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Nobody in the series ever reacted to Teleportation, so get infinite speed from i t would be useless ngl

There are several people who managed to react

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Someone already tried it

No one has tried this, could you show where?

 

[Gasper]

Nobody in the series ever reacted to Teleportation, so get infinite speed from i t would be useless ngl

I know this isn't canon but cooler unironically did it.

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Same as ssj and ssj2


One I believe

All three multipliers came from the same guide iirc



I have no idea why they rejected the 4x boost, claiming it was too small, then chose to leave it without an actual boost which ironically made it even smaller

DB: Kakarot reiterates that, no?

 

[Jaakor48]

DB: Kakarot reiterates that, no?

The game? I am not sure

Pretty sure the game isn't considered canon to the series however

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The game? I am not sure

Pretty sure the game isn't considered canon to the series however

We can make canon, Akira has a role in it and even went public about it

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

I don't care if he made the code for it too. It's non canon to the main series.

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

I don't care if he made the code for it too. It's non canon to the main series.

Encyclopedia at least should be canon.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I don't care if he made the code for it too. It's non canon to the main series.

Wait, are you the other one above that I mentioned?

 

[Killerdrone123]

We can make canon, Akira has a role in it and even went public about it

Mira says hi

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Mira says hi

We do XenoVerse canon too

 

[Killerdrone123]

We do XenoVerse canon too

And that is like literally not possible,mira has no connection to canon story making the game non canon to dbs

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Unless you're biased these things are not mutually exclusive at all. Being a supporter doesn't mean you want upgrades all the time, that's a terrible mindset.
Also it's not a tactic for crying out loud, I'm trying to claim for a consistent setting, if that's not too much to ask.

"Hey why the hell do we reject THAT multiplier?"
"Because it's too low based on arbitrary irl decisions"
"Well, SSG's multiplier is also too low on these parameters"
"Now it doesn't count!"
"Well, then approve THAT multiplier again"

This aged well

I know this isn't canon but cooler unironically did it.

Cooler W

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

And that is like literally not possible,mira has no connection to canon story making the game non canon to dbs

Lucky for us, this message from Akira covers that.

DRAGON BALL Z: KAKAROT is an Action RPG, full of the Dragon Ball universe. It includes backstories that haven't been told in the manga, and I'm sure fans will truly be able to take a deep dive into the world. It's a fresh new take on the franchise as you re-live the moment where Goku discovers his Saiyan bloodline and birth name, Kakarot. Experience the battles as they grow to become more and more unrelenting and fierce through cutting edge game visuals. I hope you enjoy the game!

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

This aged well

What do you mean? I'm doing exactly that

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

What do you mean? I'm doing exactly that

Talking about the SSG downgrade thread.

 

[Gasper]

Are Dragon Ball Z movies all in the same continuity?

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Are Dragon Ball Z movies all in the same continuity?

Nah some contradict each other iirc

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

There are several people who managed to react

No

No one has tried this, could you show where?

Infinite speed Goku, Jiren and Beerus?

Idk if this is another taboo topic for the dragon ball verse (since apparently a lot is) but I wanted to try at least. So we know from this scan that speed and power level within dragon ball is linear, and from this scan (daizenshuu 7 world view) that power/strength is what determines power...

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I know this isn't canon but cooler unironically did it.

I know

 

[omegabronic]

Lucky for us, this message from Akira covers that.

New take on the series

aka a different take from the original canon, aka a different canon

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Yeah Omega's right about Toriyama's statement there. He isn't saying anything in regards to Kakarot to being canon to the anime/manga but rather that it's a brand new take on a preexisting story, similar to the Resident Evil remakes as an example of how they're based off preexisting media but are completely new pieces of media entirely.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Like if you want a massive example as to why Kakarot isn't canon to the anime or manga? Just take a look at the History of Bardock DLC for the game.

The fact that Kakarot adapted the History of Bardock into being part of the game's narrative and lore, even in spite of the fact that DB Minus and DBS Broly are now considered the canon origin story for Goku and the death of the Saiyans, should be more then sufficient enough evidence to conclude that Kakarot is part of its own canon and not the mainline story

 

[ChronoULT]

DB: Kakarot reiterates that, no?

I don't know the source, but this scan also reiterates the multipliers from SEG

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I think it's better to play than argue endlessly with someone

 

[Jaakor48]

Lucky for us, this message from Akira covers that.

Only thing that would be seen as canon here based on that statement would be the back stories as it's connected to the manga


But the game itself definitely won't be imo

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Imagine if we got an official SSG multiplier and it ended up being some insane number

 

[Huesito88]

Imagine if we got an official SSG multiplier and it ended up being some insane number

Infinite power 0_0 =P

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Imagine if we got an official SSG multiplier and it ended up being some insane number

B real with me. It would be like 3x. Why do you make such crazy guesses when the biggest multi was 50x and that was because Tori messed up when he planned to go for 10x with ssj2 being 2x and 3 being 4x.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Imagine if we got an official SSG multiplier and it ended up being some insane number

The best we have is Golden Frieza's power level

 

[Prime2024]

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Like if you want a massive example as to why Kakarot isn't canon to the anime or manga? Just take a look at the History of Bardock DLC for the game.

The fact that Kakarot adapted the History of Bardock into being part of the game's narrative and lore, even in spite of the fact that DB Minus and DBS Broly are now considered the canon origin story for Goku and the death of the Saiyans, should be more then sufficient enough evidence to conclude that Kakarot is part of its own canon and not the mainline story

DLCs are straight up stated to be non-canon, what are you talking about?

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

DLCs are straight up stated to be non-canon, what are you talking about?

Wait, how are the DLCs non canon? I thought they were continuations of the main storyline/added more to the package, because I could've sworn that the Battle of Gods and Revival of F DLCs happened after Kakarot's campaign.

But if that's the case, I still doubt Kakarot's canoncity when the way it's described by Toriyama as being a new take on the story

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Wait, how are the DLCs non canon? I thought they were continuations of the main storyline/added more to the package, because I could've sworn that the Battle of Gods and Revival of F DLCs happened after Kakarot's campaign.

But if that's the case, I still doubt Kakarot's canoncity when the way it's described by Toriyama as being a new take on the story

There's a way to consider elements from Kakarot as canon without canonizing the game itself, I'll present them shortly in a new thread I'm cooking. Don't worry, it's a well-researched thread with a reasonable resolution.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

There's a way to consider elements from Kakarot as canon without canonizing the game itself, I'll present them shortly in a new thread I'm cooking. Don't worry, it's a well-researched thread with a reasonable resolution.

Ooh, that actually sounds fairly reasonable if elements of Kakarot are canon to the mainline series without the game actually being canon itself in my perspective. So out of curiosity sake and wanting to see your own perspective, I'll patiently wait for you to drop that thread and take a gander when it's out

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot - The canon and the non-canon

INTRODUCTION Currently, the game Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot is not considered to be canonical to the mainline series. This thread aims to prove that DBZ: Kakarot has canonical elements that can be taken into consideration. This will NOT be an attempt to canonize the entirety of the game, but rather...

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IT'S HERE.

 

[DivineAura44]

It's 2024 and people still think Broly doesn't get dog walked by the goat?

 

[Quantu]

Is there a way to scale Mechikabura's regeneration > Fusion Zamasu based on the fact that his limitless regeneration spans the entire cosmology, which includes the Crack of Time which is beyond Super Shenron's power?