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Alright, so this is my first time doing a content revision thread. So pls don't kill me if things aren't correct, or not organized. I'm a noob at this, and here I am doing kinda justice with this series. As me and Chrisras discussed what needed to be added into this series, an addition to coming up with a new god tier character that is important within the Earthbound story as a whole. I'll start off with the easy, yet long one part, powers and abilities addition. (This will include equipments absent in Mother 1, 3, and 3.) And from there, I'll talk about Pokey Minch, since he's missing abilities. After that, I'll finally disscuss about a mysterious, new god tier character that is responsible for the events in Earthbound. Alright, here goes nothing.
Powers and abilities additio
Easy, but rather long. I'll start off with Ness:
- Durability revised to At least Universal level+: Managed to survive against Giygas attack and hold his defense. Shielded the party from Giygas attack. As every time Giygas attack, the text reads "You cannot grasp the true form of Giygas attack!"
- Reality Warping Or Universal Creation: Created Magicant, which is a whole universe with a space time continuum. This ability might not be allowed in combat, but with this ability, Ness has been able create items and bring them to the real world. He can also have characters that represent his courage (and aid him in battle) or previous enemies that he has fought. Magicant is a place of wonder and imagination (as the players guide describes it)
- Space-Time Manipulaton Or Matter Manipulation: Same reasons as Reality warping
- Is protected under Fate and Probability Manipulaton via "Truth of the universe" (added to 7-C and Low 2-C, also added to the choosen 4, Lucas, and Claus): Truth Controls a "universal system", of which selects "Chosen ones" when the universe is in danger to save it, when these people are selected, they are "destined" to defeat the evil that presents the danger, in any way possible. The Truth was stated to be responsible of controlling destiny ". Apple Kid, a genius scientist, described the probability of Ness winning against Giygas as just a 1% against 99%, yet, Ness's courage managed to pull the 1% victory, although this is mostly attributed to the "Truth of the universe". Is described as having the power to "change cosmic events" in the Earthbound guide book. If you want more details and info, you can look into "The New god tier character" section.
- Self-resurrection (Both 7-C and Low 2-C): This one could be debatable, but I think it should apply. When one of your party members "collapsed" some dialogue changes (for example: When you save Paula and she collapses in a battle, her parents would say that she hasn't appeared despite feeling her presence as shown here.) that implys that your party had indeed died (they have a ghost sprite) So with Ness losing a battle, you're given an option to come back and fight again. It's possible that "Truth of the universe" is behind this. And it was confirmed that losing a battle was different in MOTHER 3, so this maybe could apply.
- Minor Resistance to Time stop (For the choosen 4): Ness and Jeff are capable of briefly dodging an attack from the Dali's clock, who's notable power is to stop time. The enemy appear in both Moonside and within Dunge ma so this ability could apply to Paula and Poo as well.
Fourth wall awareness and breaking: Able to communicate with one of the game designers (Reminds me of the Annoying Dog from Undertale. Coincidence? It's also possible that the dog is Mr Itoi himself, he also views Earthbound as fiction as he tells the player about the game and tells them to send in an email to Nintendo to receive a prize.) and knows he's inside a game. (Within Magicant, Buzz Buzz tomb stone reads "This is Buzz Buzz's tombstone. He appeared earlier in the game and gave up the ghost before he could achieved his goal."
Alright, so here's a thing about Ness's hypnosis ability (and thanks to this thread so more info is on that thread) Hypnosis description states that the target will fall asleep unless they're "highly intelligent". This is incorrect. EarthBound's status formulas use Luck, not IQ. This could also in turn follow game mechanics since it relies on a different status.
Alright, so now onto Giygas:
Abstract existence (Type 1): I Feel like it's a stretch, but I'll proceed with it anyway. Giygas is referred to as "evil energy" and an entity "made" of evil. The English translation out right says that Giygas is the "Embodiment of evil itself" (Though, appearantly a mistranslation) This is shown through Giygas having the power to influence people who have evil thoughts, even shown to work against Ness as he was fighting against his evil side in Magicant.
Passive Mind manipulation (7-A and Low 2-C): His mere presence caused global chaos and turned people and animals violent and evil. Inanimate objects also came to life, along with the dead. People with "Bad" Or "Evil" thoughts are in Giygas control so that he can attack those who oppose him.
Tier revised to "At least Low 2-C": Effortlessly destroyed the universe in the future and was going to do the same in the past and present timeline if not stopped. Superior to Post Magicant Ness, who became one with the universe.
Range revised to Low Multiversal: Erased Paulas call for help, which was going towards the player in another universe. Can attack through time and spread his influence through different timelines.
-Passive Void Manipulation: When the devil machine was turned off, Giygas true power was unleashed, the scenario turns into a black void which is stated to be a Dimension of Darkness that Giygas creates, the same darkness that erased everything in the future where buzz buzz came from. Unconsciously erased Paula pray for help.
Illusion creation via the Mani Mani Statue: The Mani Mani Statue was used by Giygas and one of its main abilities is creating a psychic illusion to fool people, this illusion is called Moonside.
Alright, yay. Giygas is done.
Now onto Resistance via equipments absent in Mother 1, 2, and 3's profile. Now, these items should be allowed since in the Earthbound players guide (Page 126) quotes "Many of these items are strange verisons of average, everyday things". They treat them as different items from the real world and actually having powers. So these should be allowed. I'll start with Mother 1.
- Resistance to Fire Manipulation, Ice Manipulaton, Electricity Manipulation, Resistance to OHK, and The Sea Pendant says it'll "reduce damage" against all PSI attacks. All of that added to protagonist.
Ok, so that was very simple, lol. Onto Mother 2 items!
-Transformation: Via bag of dragonite, they can transform into a fire breathing dragon to do massive damage.
-Statistics Amplification: Can boost their durability via Defense spray.
-Ectoplasm Manipulation and Poison Manipulation: Via Pharao's course, can summon an ectoplasmic ooze to poison the enemy.
-Sound Manipulation: Via Stag Beetle "throwing this at the enemy during battle, the enemy is shocked and stops moving. Gone after one use"
Equipment (which you can look here):
Resistance to: Fire Manipulation, Ice Manipulation, OHKO, Status Effects Inducement (Paralysis, Confusion, Uncontrollably crying, and Sleep Manipulation) via Pendants and Bracelets (here and here)
Standard Equipment
Teddy bears (Yes, a 7-C Teddy Bear. One that is above baseline since it survived 20 kilos.)
As you can see, Mother 2 has a lot of equipments that are pretty handy.
Now onto Mother 3.
- Explosion Manipulaton via Bombs, Super Bombs, and Pencil Rockets.
- Possible Durability Negation via The New Year's Eve bomb, after one use, it leaves the opponent with 1 HP.
-Statistics Amplification via offense and defense spray.
-Can break physical and psychic shields with Shield Snatcher (for Protagonists).
-Sound Manipulation via Siren Beetle for Duster: Makes enemies turn around due to a deafening noise.
- Throws in some weird scent to attract Bee's, I really don't know what ability that falls under in. But that's with the Honey Shower (Calls a swarm of bees to attack a person.) (lol 7-C bees)
Equipments:
- Resistance to Fire Manipulation, Electricity Manipulaton, Ice Manipulaton, OHK, Status Effect Inducement (Paralysis, Confusion, Uncontrollably crying, Sleep Manipulation, and Poison), and healing (brings back health every turn.) with special clothing, bracelets and Pendants (here)
Great, we are done with Powers and Abilities for the series! Well, kinda. Now we are moving onto Pokey Minch missing abilities, an addition to justifying his intellect more.
Pokey Minch, aka Kid who's a dictator
So this kid is missing abilities from his profiles and I think his intellect needs to be more justified (which I'm here to fix.)
"Throws one or multiple bombs/energy projectiles at all enemies to deal heavy damage." possible Explosion Manipulaton
"Numbs (paralyses) an enemy" "Causes crying (decrease in accuracy) to all enemies".- Status Effect inducement (Paralysis and uncontrollably crying)
"Absorbs an enemy's HP."- Life Absorptions
His intelligence should have more info like becoming a dictator, mechanizing animals, is pretty cunninng, and can organize a huge army, modernized Tazmily, captured Claus and turned him into the Masked Man.
And that's about it for this kid.
New god tier character, "Truth of the universe"
Now, for the moment you've been waiting for. And as mentioned above for Ness, you are probably asking yourself "who's this truth entity present in Earthbound?" "Whys he important?" I'll try my best to answer this (Credits to Chrisras for suggesting this, he made pretty great points and made a sandbox character of "Truth" that I'll be taking info from. The truth of the universe is a mysterious entity present within MOTHER 2/Earthbound and alluded in MOTHER 3. The truth of the universe is a cosmic entity that's the embodiment of truth itself, it's both tiny and massive simultaneously, and watches the universe like a wave. It speaks to the universes that exist inside everyone (that being Magicant) and seems to control destiny as its responsible for the "universal system", of which selects "chosen one" when the universe is in danger to save it, when these people are selected, they are "destined" to defeat evil that presents the danger, in any way possible. In Earthbound, it was shown to communicate with Ness when he was drinking a cup of coffee in Saturn valley, and again in the Tenda village. It's also responsible for giving Ness enough power to confront Giygas. In Mother 3, it was shown to communicate with Lucas when he was drinking a cup of coffee in Saturn valley too. It's "2-C" because The truth is described as being a "grain and wave" that travels through the cosmos. Stated to communicate with people inside their Magicants, which are described as "Universes" in the original text of the game. Just touching it, Ness was capable of acquiring his full potential. Its present between all timelines in Earthbound, of which are at least two in where Ness success. It also selects chosen ones during MOTHER 3, which is alluded to take place in a different timeline. (So that's Past, Present, Future where Giygas wins, 2 timelines where Ness wins, Ness's Magicant and possibly others (though it was only Ness who was able to reach his full potential, other people in Earthbound can just visit it), and Mother 3. So about 7 universes, to possibly higher)
Now for its abilities:
- Non-Corporeal (Described has being like a "wave" that travels around the cosmos, It does not present any physical form in any of its appearances, mostly talking to the mind of the Chosen ones in an unknown way)
- Non-Physical Interaction (Should be comparable to Ness, who can harm Intangible and Non corporal beings)
- Abstract Existance (Type 1):The embodiment of "Truth" in the Earthbound world, also possible that it is the embodiment of the universe itself.)
- Immortality (Type 5; The destruction of one universe where Giygas achieves his full power did not affect it in any way possible. The reset of reality in MOTHER 3 did not affect it either.)
- Acausality (Type 1; Is not bound to conventional time)
- Fate Manipulation (Controls a "universal system", of which selects "Chosen ones" when the universe is in danger to save it, when these people are selected, they are "destined" to defeat the evil that presents the danger, in any way possible. Stated of being the responsible of controlling destiny)
- Probability Manipulation (Apple Kid, a genius scientist, described the probability of Ness winning against Giygas as just a 1% against 99%, yet, Ness's courage managed to pull the 1% victory, although this is mostly attributed to the Truth)
(By the way, Probability and Fate were mentioned above for Ness, this should also apply to Paula, Jeff, and Poo as they are one of the Chosen 4. An addition to Lucas and The Masked Man for being the chosen one.)
- Power Bestowal (Ness, just touching the Truth of the universe, managed to acquired the power necessary to confront Giygas)
- Telepathy and Psychic abilities (Can comunicate through Ness's and Lucas's minds after they drink coffee. Should be capable of using PSI/PK attacks)
- 4th Wall Awareness/Breaking (Can communicate with the player, and connect it's power with them)
- Omniscient (Should be superior to Ness's. Described as the Supreme intelligence of the universe. Can alter destiny to choose what can happen)
- Reality Warping
Summary of everything so far
Alrighty, so I'm gonna try my best to summarize things so far.
Ness: The abilities in general seems to be fine with people with few exceptions like Fourth wall hax, and Self Ressurection, but the others are good.
Giygas: People are fine with his new abilities, though Low Multiversal range seems iffy to some but I extended it to putting that his influence were able to reach the present timeline and that he can attack through time.
Items: Yup, people are ok with them.
Pokey: Yep, people are ok with this. (Though, I do feel like his intellect can maybe be buffed to extraordinary genius)
Truth of the universe: People are both ok and iffy with this character, it's abilities are ok for some, but I fixed stuff like Mind Manipulation to Telepathy and Psychic abilities.
New edits
A possible upgrade for all of the protagonist to Low 7-B: Ok, so in this thread, there were discussions going on about the current justification of 7-C rating, but it lead to an upgrade; Basically the 6th sanctuary boss (They are called Thunder and Storm, hint hint) are capable of using PK Thunder and generating storms in battle "These twin terrors attack with the power of the elements. Find shelter from the onslaught and use PSI powers to attack the two of them at once. " (From the Earthbound Players guide) Standard Storms are said to generate this much energy, and with The 6th sanctuary boss being considered a threat to all of Dalaam, I would say this is legit. There are also other feats such as the nuclear reactor robot being 20 kilos, The Krakens generating a tornado (Which should be around 8-A and Belch's feat of, after being defeated, spreading the cumulus nimbus that covers the entirety of Threed in an unknown time frame.
One last edit for Ness: I feel like his Low 2-C form is need of more justification as it only states that he "Touch the Truth of The Universe" and overlapped the universe which allowed him to fight Giygas. Well, there is no mention of the creation of Magicant, Which was stated to be an entire universe. So, yeah and because he became the universe, he should gain the following abilities: Fusionism, Large Size (Type 8), Cosmic Awareness (Has Nigh-Omniscient, and is being guided by Truth), Higher-Dimensional Existence, and possibly Non-Corporeal.
Alright, that's all. Thank you for coming to read all of that and junk, just tell me what you think (politely pls, I'm a noob at this) and finally, Thank you for your cooperation.
Powers and abilities additio
Easy, but rather long. I'll start off with Ness:
- Durability revised to At least Universal level+: Managed to survive against Giygas attack and hold his defense. Shielded the party from Giygas attack. As every time Giygas attack, the text reads "You cannot grasp the true form of Giygas attack!"
- Reality Warping Or Universal Creation: Created Magicant, which is a whole universe with a space time continuum. This ability might not be allowed in combat, but with this ability, Ness has been able create items and bring them to the real world. He can also have characters that represent his courage (and aid him in battle) or previous enemies that he has fought. Magicant is a place of wonder and imagination (as the players guide describes it)
- Space-Time Manipulaton Or Matter Manipulation: Same reasons as Reality warping
- Is protected under Fate and Probability Manipulaton via "Truth of the universe" (added to 7-C and Low 2-C, also added to the choosen 4, Lucas, and Claus): Truth Controls a "universal system", of which selects "Chosen ones" when the universe is in danger to save it, when these people are selected, they are "destined" to defeat the evil that presents the danger, in any way possible. The Truth was stated to be responsible of controlling destiny ". Apple Kid, a genius scientist, described the probability of Ness winning against Giygas as just a 1% against 99%, yet, Ness's courage managed to pull the 1% victory, although this is mostly attributed to the "Truth of the universe". Is described as having the power to "change cosmic events" in the Earthbound guide book. If you want more details and info, you can look into "The New god tier character" section.
- Self-resurrection (Both 7-C and Low 2-C): This one could be debatable, but I think it should apply. When one of your party members "collapsed" some dialogue changes (for example: When you save Paula and she collapses in a battle, her parents would say that she hasn't appeared despite feeling her presence as shown here.) that implys that your party had indeed died (they have a ghost sprite) So with Ness losing a battle, you're given an option to come back and fight again. It's possible that "Truth of the universe" is behind this. And it was confirmed that losing a battle was different in MOTHER 3, so this maybe could apply.
- Minor Resistance to Time stop (For the choosen 4): Ness and Jeff are capable of briefly dodging an attack from the Dali's clock, who's notable power is to stop time. The enemy appear in both Moonside and within Dunge ma so this ability could apply to Paula and Poo as well.
Fourth wall awareness and breaking: Able to communicate with one of the game designers (Reminds me of the Annoying Dog from Undertale. Coincidence? It's also possible that the dog is Mr Itoi himself, he also views Earthbound as fiction as he tells the player about the game and tells them to send in an email to Nintendo to receive a prize.) and knows he's inside a game. (Within Magicant, Buzz Buzz tomb stone reads "This is Buzz Buzz's tombstone. He appeared earlier in the game and gave up the ghost before he could achieved his goal."
Alright, so here's a thing about Ness's hypnosis ability (and thanks to this thread so more info is on that thread) Hypnosis description states that the target will fall asleep unless they're "highly intelligent". This is incorrect. EarthBound's status formulas use Luck, not IQ. This could also in turn follow game mechanics since it relies on a different status.
Alright, so now onto Giygas:
Abstract existence (Type 1): I Feel like it's a stretch, but I'll proceed with it anyway. Giygas is referred to as "evil energy" and an entity "made" of evil. The English translation out right says that Giygas is the "Embodiment of evil itself" (Though, appearantly a mistranslation) This is shown through Giygas having the power to influence people who have evil thoughts, even shown to work against Ness as he was fighting against his evil side in Magicant.
Passive Mind manipulation (7-A and Low 2-C): His mere presence caused global chaos and turned people and animals violent and evil. Inanimate objects also came to life, along with the dead. People with "Bad" Or "Evil" thoughts are in Giygas control so that he can attack those who oppose him.
Tier revised to "At least Low 2-C": Effortlessly destroyed the universe in the future and was going to do the same in the past and present timeline if not stopped. Superior to Post Magicant Ness, who became one with the universe.
Range revised to Low Multiversal: Erased Paulas call for help, which was going towards the player in another universe. Can attack through time and spread his influence through different timelines.
-Passive Void Manipulation: When the devil machine was turned off, Giygas true power was unleashed, the scenario turns into a black void which is stated to be a Dimension of Darkness that Giygas creates, the same darkness that erased everything in the future where buzz buzz came from. Unconsciously erased Paula pray for help.
Illusion creation via the Mani Mani Statue: The Mani Mani Statue was used by Giygas and one of its main abilities is creating a psychic illusion to fool people, this illusion is called Moonside.
Alright, yay. Giygas is done.
Now onto Resistance via equipments absent in Mother 1, 2, and 3's profile. Now, these items should be allowed since in the Earthbound players guide (Page 126) quotes "Many of these items are strange verisons of average, everyday things". They treat them as different items from the real world and actually having powers. So these should be allowed. I'll start with Mother 1.
- Resistance to Fire Manipulation, Ice Manipulaton, Electricity Manipulation, Resistance to OHK, and The Sea Pendant says it'll "reduce damage" against all PSI attacks. All of that added to protagonist.
Ok, so that was very simple, lol. Onto Mother 2 items!
Code:
Items:-Statistics Amplification: Can boost their durability via Defense spray.
-Ectoplasm Manipulation and Poison Manipulation: Via Pharao's course, can summon an ectoplasmic ooze to poison the enemy.
-Sound Manipulation: Via Stag Beetle "throwing this at the enemy during battle, the enemy is shocked and stops moving. Gone after one use"
Equipment (which you can look here):
Resistance to: Fire Manipulation, Ice Manipulation, OHKO, Status Effects Inducement (Paralysis, Confusion, Uncontrollably crying, and Sleep Manipulation) via Pendants and Bracelets (here and here)
Standard Equipment
Teddy bears (Yes, a 7-C Teddy Bear. One that is above baseline since it survived 20 kilos.)
As you can see, Mother 2 has a lot of equipments that are pretty handy.
Now onto Mother 3.
- Explosion Manipulaton via Bombs, Super Bombs, and Pencil Rockets.
- Possible Durability Negation via The New Year's Eve bomb, after one use, it leaves the opponent with 1 HP.
-Statistics Amplification via offense and defense spray.
-Can break physical and psychic shields with Shield Snatcher (for Protagonists).
-Sound Manipulation via Siren Beetle for Duster: Makes enemies turn around due to a deafening noise.
- Throws in some weird scent to attract Bee's, I really don't know what ability that falls under in. But that's with the Honey Shower (Calls a swarm of bees to attack a person.) (lol 7-C bees)
Equipments:
- Resistance to Fire Manipulation, Electricity Manipulaton, Ice Manipulaton, OHK, Status Effect Inducement (Paralysis, Confusion, Uncontrollably crying, Sleep Manipulation, and Poison), and healing (brings back health every turn.) with special clothing, bracelets and Pendants (here)
Great, we are done with Powers and Abilities for the series! Well, kinda. Now we are moving onto Pokey Minch missing abilities, an addition to justifying his intellect more.
Pokey Minch, aka Kid who's a dictator
So this kid is missing abilities from his profiles and I think his intellect needs to be more justified (which I'm here to fix.)
"Throws one or multiple bombs/energy projectiles at all enemies to deal heavy damage." possible Explosion Manipulaton
"Numbs (paralyses) an enemy" "Causes crying (decrease in accuracy) to all enemies".- Status Effect inducement (Paralysis and uncontrollably crying)
"Absorbs an enemy's HP."- Life Absorptions
His intelligence should have more info like becoming a dictator, mechanizing animals, is pretty cunninng, and can organize a huge army, modernized Tazmily, captured Claus and turned him into the Masked Man.
And that's about it for this kid.
New god tier character, "Truth of the universe"
Now, for the moment you've been waiting for. And as mentioned above for Ness, you are probably asking yourself "who's this truth entity present in Earthbound?" "Whys he important?" I'll try my best to answer this (Credits to Chrisras for suggesting this, he made pretty great points and made a sandbox character of "Truth" that I'll be taking info from. The truth of the universe is a mysterious entity present within MOTHER 2/Earthbound and alluded in MOTHER 3. The truth of the universe is a cosmic entity that's the embodiment of truth itself, it's both tiny and massive simultaneously, and watches the universe like a wave. It speaks to the universes that exist inside everyone (that being Magicant) and seems to control destiny as its responsible for the "universal system", of which selects "chosen one" when the universe is in danger to save it, when these people are selected, they are "destined" to defeat evil that presents the danger, in any way possible. In Earthbound, it was shown to communicate with Ness when he was drinking a cup of coffee in Saturn valley, and again in the Tenda village. It's also responsible for giving Ness enough power to confront Giygas. In Mother 3, it was shown to communicate with Lucas when he was drinking a cup of coffee in Saturn valley too. It's "2-C" because The truth is described as being a "grain and wave" that travels through the cosmos. Stated to communicate with people inside their Magicants, which are described as "Universes" in the original text of the game. Just touching it, Ness was capable of acquiring his full potential. Its present between all timelines in Earthbound, of which are at least two in where Ness success. It also selects chosen ones during MOTHER 3, which is alluded to take place in a different timeline. (So that's Past, Present, Future where Giygas wins, 2 timelines where Ness wins, Ness's Magicant and possibly others (though it was only Ness who was able to reach his full potential, other people in Earthbound can just visit it), and Mother 3. So about 7 universes, to possibly higher)
Now for its abilities:
- Non-Corporeal (Described has being like a "wave" that travels around the cosmos, It does not present any physical form in any of its appearances, mostly talking to the mind of the Chosen ones in an unknown way)
- Non-Physical Interaction (Should be comparable to Ness, who can harm Intangible and Non corporal beings)
- Abstract Existance (Type 1):The embodiment of "Truth" in the Earthbound world, also possible that it is the embodiment of the universe itself.)
- Immortality (Type 5; The destruction of one universe where Giygas achieves his full power did not affect it in any way possible. The reset of reality in MOTHER 3 did not affect it either.)
- Acausality (Type 1; Is not bound to conventional time)
- Fate Manipulation (Controls a "universal system", of which selects "Chosen ones" when the universe is in danger to save it, when these people are selected, they are "destined" to defeat the evil that presents the danger, in any way possible. Stated of being the responsible of controlling destiny)
- Probability Manipulation (Apple Kid, a genius scientist, described the probability of Ness winning against Giygas as just a 1% against 99%, yet, Ness's courage managed to pull the 1% victory, although this is mostly attributed to the Truth)
(By the way, Probability and Fate were mentioned above for Ness, this should also apply to Paula, Jeff, and Poo as they are one of the Chosen 4. An addition to Lucas and The Masked Man for being the chosen one.)
- Power Bestowal (Ness, just touching the Truth of the universe, managed to acquired the power necessary to confront Giygas)
- Telepathy and Psychic abilities (Can comunicate through Ness's and Lucas's minds after they drink coffee. Should be capable of using PSI/PK attacks)
- 4th Wall Awareness/Breaking (Can communicate with the player, and connect it's power with them)
- Omniscient (Should be superior to Ness's. Described as the Supreme intelligence of the universe. Can alter destiny to choose what can happen)
- Reality Warping
Summary of everything so far
Alrighty, so I'm gonna try my best to summarize things so far.
Ness: The abilities in general seems to be fine with people with few exceptions like Fourth wall hax, and Self Ressurection, but the others are good.
Giygas: People are fine with his new abilities, though Low Multiversal range seems iffy to some but I extended it to putting that his influence were able to reach the present timeline and that he can attack through time.
Items: Yup, people are ok with them.
Pokey: Yep, people are ok with this. (Though, I do feel like his intellect can maybe be buffed to extraordinary genius)
Truth of the universe: People are both ok and iffy with this character, it's abilities are ok for some, but I fixed stuff like Mind Manipulation to Telepathy and Psychic abilities.
New edits
A possible upgrade for all of the protagonist to Low 7-B: Ok, so in this thread, there were discussions going on about the current justification of 7-C rating, but it lead to an upgrade; Basically the 6th sanctuary boss (They are called Thunder and Storm, hint hint) are capable of using PK Thunder and generating storms in battle "These twin terrors attack with the power of the elements. Find shelter from the onslaught and use PSI powers to attack the two of them at once. " (From the Earthbound Players guide) Standard Storms are said to generate this much energy, and with The 6th sanctuary boss being considered a threat to all of Dalaam, I would say this is legit. There are also other feats such as the nuclear reactor robot being 20 kilos, The Krakens generating a tornado (Which should be around 8-A and Belch's feat of, after being defeated, spreading the cumulus nimbus that covers the entirety of Threed in an unknown time frame.
One last edit for Ness: I feel like his Low 2-C form is need of more justification as it only states that he "Touch the Truth of The Universe" and overlapped the universe which allowed him to fight Giygas. Well, there is no mention of the creation of Magicant, Which was stated to be an entire universe. So, yeah and because he became the universe, he should gain the following abilities: Fusionism, Large Size (Type 8), Cosmic Awareness (Has Nigh-Omniscient, and is being guided by Truth), Higher-Dimensional Existence, and possibly Non-Corporeal.
Alright, that's all. Thank you for coming to read all of that and junk, just tell me what you think (politely pls, I'm a noob at this) and finally, Thank you for your cooperation.
