Esdeath vs. Lancer (Fate/Stay Night)

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

The fight takes place in Fuyuki City.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Esdeath

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lancer_(Fate/Stay_Night)

7-B versions. Speed is equalized. Who wins?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Bump.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Bump.

 

[HimikoWerckmeister]

Does Esdeath have anything for Gae Bolg? If not, its a solid win in Lancer's favour.

 

[Drellix]

She's capable of stopping time

 

[HimikoWerckmeister]

Going with Lancer, Esdeath has nothing against his casuality manipulation.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Wow....

Anyways here's mines.

Stat-wise, both are really even with each other and so would be dead-locked in CQC fighting. I'd say both go even here, basically.

Power-wise, Esdeath has her Ice powers where she has a load of stuff to utilize such as making ice spear's/spike projectiles, making ice pillars, using them to make the whole flight thing (or just floating at least), creating a large ice boulder to try and slam Lancer with, create ice armor on any and all parts of her body with it, trap Lancer in ice to immobilize him, and even freeze time with to trap Lancer in it and kill him. So Esdeath has a lot of variatable use with her powers. On top of having some really good senses and being resistant to heat which should be enough to handle flame attacks generated by Lancer (seems to be he can do so as noted on his page so far.

Lancer on the other hand isn't so bad either. He's still good with doing things like creating barriers which should allow him to withstand any of Esdeath's ice attacks that she may throw at him, temporaily bolster up his stats and NP to get a slight power advantage against Esdeath, also has the ability to predict any incoming attacks which can help even more against Esdeath's assaults. Lancer can also keep on fighting unless either his heart or head are completely destroyed given his A-rank endurance of battle continuation, plus having regen. And as well as having his NP where he can reverse causality plus negate regen (though Esdeath doesn't have that), and being a sure-fire insta kill attack once launched.

Ultimately, it all leads to whoever uses their trump cards first. If Esdeath Time Stops at anytime and goes for the kill, it's in her favor and she wins. If she doesn't and Lancer launches his NP, specifically Gae Blogs "Pierces with Death" attack instead of "Strikes with Death", it's in Lancers favor.

For this case, i may just go with Lancer more than Esdeath. IIRC, Lancer is more inclined to use his sooner than Esdeath and, give recent comments below, Esdeath may not use her time stop in time since she has no knowledge of Lancer's weapon (though Lancer in turn has no idea she can also stop time). Still as one of it's properties is to reverse causality in one of it's modes, Lancer would take up the victory with Esdeath having a spear ran through her heart.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Going with Lancer as well. While Esdeath can stop time, it's not something she'll do at the drop of a hat. Lancer on the other hand will use his Noble Phantasm after a while. Also, as Esdeath knows nothing about it, her chances of stopping Lancer from performing it are pretty much null.

That's not even to say anything of Esdeath's personality. She's a ****** who will draw a fight out to make the other person suffer while Lancer is a warrior who loves a good fight but will try to win.

In addition, if Esdeath were to strike a fatal blow outside of time stop, it's very likely she would drop her guard, assuming she won. That would be the perfect moment for Lancer to kill her as his Battle Continuation would give him enough time.

Overall, Lancer's just got more going for him the Esdeath. Yes, she could win but it's far more likely that Lancer will take her out.

 

[Reppuzan]

I'll have to go with Lancer as well.

His personality makes him plain more inclined to win, since he doesn't like holding back and would have wiped the floor with Archer if not for Kirei's Command Seal. As TheC2 and Cross has stated, he's more willing to use his trump card in combat than Esdeath, since he attempts to do so against Saber in every route despite the fact that neither was in particular danger of losing at that point.

In addition, I'd like to ask a quick question. Does anyone know what Esdeath's rapier is made out of? Servants are immune to conventional weapons that don't have a hint of Mystery (magical power) in them. As a result, her rapier won't be doing much unless she covers the tip in ice (unless I'm missing something here). If it's made out of a Danger Beast, then this point is moot.

 

[Jiangshi1]

TheC2 explained what I would've said, especially in the personality department. Cu, aka Better Lancer wins

 

[ScarletFirefly]

This goes to Chu 7.5/10 in my opinion for reasons mentioned below:

- He's a much better close range fighter than Esdeath and since she mostly uses a sword is close quarters, she's at a disadvantage against a spear.

- Her ranged ice attacks will have little to no effect thanks to Lancer's "Protection from Arrows" skill. He can predict the projectile's motion just by hearing the air and as long as the shooter is within his sight, he can defend against them effectively.

- His Rune magic can prove effective in either creating barriers or creating a field of "honorary combat" where neither him nor the opponent can retreat away from, essentially trapping Esdeath and taking away her range advatange.

- Judging by Esdeath's character, she won't use Mahapdma at once. Even if she did, she's usually full of herself and Lancer's "Battle Continuation" skill will allow him to continue fighting even with heavy wounds.

- She has no way of avoiding his NP and and has no knowledge on it.

 

[Xanxussama1010]

After read other opinions. I vote for Lancer too by most of reason above.

 

[HimikoWerckmeister]

If I didn't do my math wrong we have 7 votes including mine, can we add this to the results after the grace period is over?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Yeah, it's 7-1 in favor of Lancer.

 

[Delta3000]

Lancer for reasons above.

@scarlet firefly, a sword is actually an advantage in CQC against a spear if the swordsman can get close enough.

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

Yeah after reading SF and Crossverse's comment..i think i switch to lancer here.my apologies ^_^

 

[ScarletFirefly]

@scarlet firefly, a sword is actually an advantage in CQC against a spear if the swordsman can get close enough.

If he can get close enough sure, but that's where the spear shines, at keeping people away at it's max distance. Not to mention that there is hardly an effective way of parrying the spear with a sword.

 

[Delta3000]

Depends, if the spearman misses a thrust the swordsman can get in close while the spearman is recovering or grab the spear. Not true, the fate franchise has plenty of examples of the spear being parrried with a sword; The NP is the only tricky part.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Delta

Lancer is explicitly stated by the narration to have no vulnerabilities like that due his god-like technique. In addition, he actively enters close combat while using his spear, kicking Archer and smashing his foes with a shaft.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

^Was just about to say that. Chu is known for his beast-like agility and agressiveness. Archer was disarmed of his twin swords 27 times while engaging him in close combat.

 

[Reppuzan]

Anyways, since it's been a full day, it should be alright to add this to both profiles, so I'm closing this.