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Fairy Tail Upgrade

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Well the speed has sense since weakened Erza isn't that far away from that speed, but this is something calculation group knows how to handle...

Plus that 1 second honestly I would say like 5-10 seconds to make it legit but you need to ask for evaluation.

Thou again there is nothing in between and we already see everyone looking at the sky so I don't know...

Plus that casual... He was bloodlusted like never before.
 
@Everlasting

Explain how it took anything more than 10 seconds while Irene was in the exact same position
 
Do we need a rule for Fairy Tail threads as well? I could've sworn we said we'd worry about any changes once FT ended.....
 
@Aiden

Do you know at which point this feat took place? Because it could be a good supporting feat.
 
This from the fight against Neinhart

In the current Arc.


It could a good support, since this is only the si de Effect of jellal's spell
 
@Aiden

Why would we use 30 and 10 seconds when it reached the earth in 4 panels

Is the Jellal calc accepted?
 
@Everlasting

Because it clearly wasn't anything over that.

He stated "here and now I shall commit one more sin" straight after that the clouds dispersed, no reason to use anything higher than 1 second

http://www3.**********.net/Read1_Fairy_Tail_483_5
 
@Everlasting

Also using the 1 panel = 1 second rule we get the same. There are more factors pointing towards one second than others.
 
@howard

Regardless, more factors point towards it than more than 2 seconds.

It happens in an instant and everyone is in the same position
 
That doesn't mean that much, given other feats where you could say the same thing, like Piccolo's moon bust.
 
@Aiden

Using 30 Seconds for something that happened over a single panel and before anyone reacted?

http://www3.**********.net/Read1_Fairy_Tail_483_4

^Neinhart exclaimed before Jellal performed the feat

http://www3.**********.net/Read1_Fairy_Tail_483_5

^Jellal performed it the next page instantly.

Using 10 seconds is downright criminal seeing as how Neinhart would have been shocked 10 seconds beforehand
 
I think 30 to 10 seconds is reasonable. I prefer 10 seconds more then 30 but both are fine. I'm not behind 1 or 2 seconds
 
Anything above 5 seconds is illogical imo.

As soon as Erza goes down, Kagura rushes to help her up while Jellal is obviously mad. Neinhart was surprised and then immediately looks up. The fact that Neinhart is surprised as soon as Jellal finishes saying "he's gonna commit one more sin", means it can't be much longer than that. And none of them have moved from their positions.

Saying it took 30 seconds is just nonsense.
 
I also think 10-30 seconds is too long. While I agree that 1 second might be pushing it, it should be at least 5 seconds. Anything more than that seems illogical to me
 
With 5 seconds what result we get? If it's small island it's just a confirmation and nothing else.
 
With 5 seconds I found 7,37 x 10^17 J. Mountain level I think
 
Than close this thread since there is no way someone will accept 1 second timeframe...
 
Hold up. Are you trying to say, it took 5 seconds when Neinhart had just exclaimed a second before the clouds parted.

http://www3.**********.net/Read1_Fairy_Tail_483_4

(Last Panel)

And immediately on the next page the clouds had parted. And what's more is that everyone was in the same positio

It's consistent with the fact that Jellal managed to push back Human & Dragon Acnologia
 
He didn't push Acnologia in neither cases the human Acnologia simply dodged his attack while when he attacked the dragon form he simply tanked it moving his neck a little backwards and nothing else.
 
So you are telling me Neinhart realized what Jellal was doing 5 Seconds early, everyone stopped what they were doing for 5 seconds straight and just waited? So if anything that is illogical.

3 second timeframe is an unrealistic lowball and that's the highest you can logically argue
 
Look the point here is that anything except for 1 sec won't turn into an upgrade even 2 seconds.
 
See this is why assumed timeframes are shit.

I remember back when we had to use 20 mins assumed timeframes.
 
^That's why there was a thread about this apparently. Assuming timeframes when we already have them from an anime adaption is kinda stupid if you ask me.
 
One second and a half is large mountain btw. Literally only one second yields island level AP
 
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