Garfield General Discussion Thread (No, seriously.)

[Christian_Higdon]

Well, well, well, that opens up some ideas.

 

[Insecurity97]

Oh dear god, this means he can fight most DC and anime characters now

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Okay, I'll just say this:

"9-B, 8-C at best."

That work?

 

[Sixo_Bullets]

I believe once the calc gets accepted that will be fine.

 

[Insecurity97]

Probably just sticking with 8-C is fine

 

[Christian_Higdon]

I mean, Garf is very consistent into 9-B, so maybe we can keep that?

If we're going plain 8-C, I know a few characters.

 

[HailTheGodTwains]

I mean, Garf is very consistent into 9-B, so maybe we can keep that?
If we're going plain 8-C, I know a few characters.

I mean, nothing contridicts Wall Level AP from what I can see.

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Yeah, not much. Especially that 9-B is where Garf's most consistent at.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Shoul Garfield have "varies" tier like"9-B" or "8-C"? I don't know. Seems outlier-ish.

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Shoul Garfield have "varies" tier like"9-B" or "8-C"? I don't know. Seems outlier-ish.

That's what I'm asking.

 

[HailTheGodTwains]

Might be, but nothing seems to contridict it. He doesnt' seem to really struggle with his 9-B feats (I think). But, I would say "At least Wall Level, likely Building Level".

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

ok

 

[Sixo_Bullets]

Garfield is consistently tier 9 and that calc is very low into 8-C, it should be fine.

 

[Sixo_Bullets]

Not to mention the Tier 9 feats are SUPER casual.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Might be, but nothing seems to contridict it. He doesnt' seem to really struggle with his 9-B feats (I think). But, I would say
"At least Wall Level, likely Building Level".

Seems better.

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Yeah, this makes sense.

 

[Insecurity97]

Also, I like how, within the span of just a few hours, Garfield went from being a baseline nigh-haxless 9-B to a 9-B with an 8-C feat with also a good amount of hax

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Yeah, that's pretty funny.

 

[Sixo_Bullets]

Well, this was a good day for a revision.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

Sorry to spoil everyone's fun, but I'm not quite sure about that calculation. I posted my reasoning there, but I'll discuss it here as well

1) The calculation does not account for hollowness, as far as I can see

2) How does this actually scale to Garfield? Like, at all?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

The calc part isn't on the profile yet, but he already has a building level feat in the form of destroying a building with a punch

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

That's the one I'm talking about

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Why was fear manipulation removed?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Why was fear manipulation removed?

He was really just threatening them, so it isn't really fear manip so much as intimidation

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Definition: the action of intimidating someone, or the state of being intimidated.

"the intimidation of witnesses and jurors"

synonyms:

frightening, menacing, terrifying, scaring, alarming, terrorization, terrorizing, cowing, subduing, daunting, unnerving

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

It is a form of fear, an it is shown effectiong things like inanimante objects and light.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Go take it up with Ant, but to me it seems more like just an application of his ability to communicate with the innanimate

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

That's the one I'm talking about

I mean, if destroying a building with a punch isn't building level then that's strange

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

That's the thing. He didn't. At absolute maximum, all he does in that feat is punch out a window. The rest is just chain reaction

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I guess small building could also be applicable

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

Small Building dura maybe, depending on the power that the roof hit him with. But not AP, unless he can scale to those that can harm him

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

He seems to be strong enough that Ody is scared of him, and Ody has probably harmed him at least once

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

Aight. Then that works

 

[Insecurity97]

Garfield and Odie basically harm each other on a daily basis, so...

 

[Christian_Higdon]

I don't recall putting myself as a supporter for Garfield's verse.

Well, whoever put me there, ya did my job for me.

 

[Sixo_Bullets]

That's the thing. He didn't. At absolute maximum, all he does in that feat is punch out a window. The rest is just chain Reaction

He did though. Windows don't support the houses and doing that wouldn't normally cause something like that. He broke it due to slamming the window hard enough that he broke the house, if you're wondering why he would slam it hard look at the reasonings as follows:

1. Consistently does things like slam things extremely hard.

2. He was trying to outright kill the spider with as much force as possible.

 

[Jackythejack]

Can I just say that I love that Ant is a supporter of th Garfield verse? It's great

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

We can see the impact of his force exerted though. The window popped out. Nothing else happened before an extended pause, implying that the window must have been load-bearing. At absolute maximum, you could calc the wall being knocked out, but the best feat there is the dura calc of the roof falling on him, which would be 9-A at the outside

 

[Sixo_Bullets]

You realize regardless of the timeframe he still used enough force and energy, yes? You outright admit this with "We can see the impact of his force exerted though", which is the house being broken. More or less cinematic timing as well as it was used for more dramatic purposes regardless, he still broke it all down with a single slam.

 

[Sixo_Bullets]

I understand it probably won't be accepted though, I'll calc the walls falling down with a seperate formula.