HELLSING - General Discussion

[Robo432343]

 

[Random-Helper323]

This thread has been applied.

Scaling chain CRT is next.

I also thought of something. Alucard should have resistance to extreme cold. He flew the jet at an altitude of 85,000 feet with no padding or any sign of discomfort. This would place him in the stratosphere, and the stratosphere has a temperature range which lines up with a calculation of the temperature based on altitude. It would have been about -50°C. Google's AI told me it'd be -70-ish°C, but that seems to be a high-end estimate that I can't find anywhere else.

 

[Robo432343]

i did not think of that
yeah that makes sense

 

[Robo432343]

should alucard get poison manip via the jackal because it contains mercury which is highly poisonous

 

[Random-Helper323]

should alucard get poison manip via the jackal because it contains mercury which is highly poisonous

That should already be there, given that I raised it ages ago, but yes, he should get that.

 

[Robo432343]

wait
was Luke conscious when he was inside Baskerville's stomach all this time?

 

[Random-Helper323]

wait
was Luke conscious when he was inside Baskerville's stomach all this time?

Can't have been. He was confused and lost when he came out.

 

[Robo432343]

wonder if this is another ability other than TK

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

wonder if this is another ability other than TK

no no, that's definitely Telekinesis

 

[Robo432343]

who makes that kind of face and sound from getting TK'd???
thought it was some sort of bio hax

 

[Random-Helper323]

wonder if this is another ability other than TK

They appear to be snapped backwards but they also look terrified. Mind hax?

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

They appear to be snapped backwards but they also look terrified. Mind hax?

ain't no way we going this low

idk man they are probably just terrified by the fact a massive vampire (atleast from their perspective) just Telekinetically moves your body away from him

 

[Robo432343]

nah thats definitely status effect inducement

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

nah thats definitely status effect inducement

I'm letting myself get ragebaited by idc

Alucard's Reasoning for his Social Influencing in his profile should be enough to explain why those people were terrified (if they weren't terrified by being telekinetically moved by a Vampire that could easily kill them)

 

[Random-Helper323]

If he actually has a feat of hitting these two guys with his telekinesis, we can at least say that his telekinesis can be used to attack.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

If he actually has a feat of hitting these two guys with his telekinesis, we can at least say that his telekinesis can be used to attack.

idk, it looks like he is just moving them away...

like how he moved those soldiers before the Alhambra or wtf the Dandy Man was called, fight

 

[Random-Helper323]

idk, it looks like he is just moving them away...

like how he moved those soldiers before the Alhambra or wtf the Dandy Man was called, fight

Maybe. although he should also get a section on his lifting strength section for his telekinesis, since it has very explicit lifting and moving feats. I think Jedi already have such a thing.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Maybe. although he should also get a section on his lifting strength section for his telekinesis, since it has very explicit lifting and moving feats. I think Jedi already have such a thing.

I never said anything about that

plus ain't that already a given?

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

is this aura????


(48 seconds)

you can see the red aura stuff

does that also appear in the Manga? cuz I don't think we have the Anime Accepted as usuable in the wiki.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

the anime is supplementary canon whatever that means

I get that, but did the aura thing appear in the Manga.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

yes

no

well womp womp ig

 

[Random-Helper323]

im going to make a qna thread and ask if we can use anime feats even if it didn't appear in the manga

Only if it's JoJo's and we're Death Battle trying to hand Dio a win.

 

[Robo432343]

guys i need your help with improving this

Alucard's profile:

Regeneration (Alucard's regeneration should be changed to Mid via this but i don't know how to word it)

Regeneration Negation (Mid; The Jackal can negate Anderson's supernatural regenerative abilities, who was shown to regenerate from being shot twice in the head)

Poison Manipulation (The rounds from the Jackal features an explosive tip that contains a charge of pre blessed mercury)

Information Manipulation Type 1 (Alucard is able to possess the knowledge of his victims by drinking their blood)

Duplication and Shockwave Generation (Via summoning Tubalcain)

Explosion Manipulation (Alucard's guns have explosive properties)

Nonexistent Physiology (Post Schrodinger): (After absorbing Schrodinger, Alucard exists everywhere and nowhere at the same time. Due to the nature of Alucard's paradoxical existence he can selectively choose whether or not he is to exist everywhere or nowhere)

Unconventional resistance to Soul Manipulation (due to possessing thousands of souls)

Resistance to Extreme Cold (thanks @Random-Helper323 for pointing this out)

Alucard should have resistance to extreme cold. He flew the jet at an altitude of 85,000 feet with no padding or any sign of discomfort. This would place him in the stratosphere, and the stratosphere has a temperature range which lines up with a calculation of the temperature based on altitude. It would have been about -50°C.

Tubalcain's profile:

Telekinesis (Can telekinetically control his cards, allowing them to change trajectory mid flight to hit moving targets)

Attack reflection (Can deflect attacks by spinning his playing cards in a circle around his body)

Duplication (Dissolved into a flurry of playing cards before reappearing somewhere else, fully healed to distract Alucard)

Regeneration Negation (Tubalcain's Playing Cards possesses an anti-healing factor effect where regenerative prospects are negated once upon making contact with a supernatural target. Negated Alucard's regeneration)

Shockwave Generation: Tubalcain's cards can create immense shockwaves

Explosion Manipulation: Creates a flurry of playing cards which explode

 

[Random-Helper323]

Looks good.

Also, Alucard hits two guys with telekinesis and Tubalcain wields his cards telekinetically, and Rip controls her bullet that way too, so there is genuinely a way to scale telekinesis to physicals, although I suspect the cards and bullets are connected to their wielder, likely a derivative of how Alucard and Seras can harden their bodies.

I swear, there is so much unexplored potential in Hellsing's world, characters and lore...

 

[Random-Helper323]

If scaling TK to physicals was accepted, we'd still have Tier 7.

 

[Random-Helper323]

If TK can be used maybe we should go back to the blood and ship feats then.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Yeah, that was discussed. It seems to be via draining the enemy though.

 

[Robo432343]

I just realized we can use stuff from the OVA (I know we've been using OVA stuff before but still)

Kouta Hirano Interview

Q] In the past, many fans have asked about the possibility of a second season to the Hellsing TV series. What made you decide to participate the OVA project? Was it your idea to begin with, or did someone else ask you?

[K] Mr. Ueda approached me with the idea.


[Q] How do you plan to incorporate the manga with the OVA project?

[K] It's basically based on the manga from the beginning. Since the manga is still an ongoing publication, we may change the order of the portions of the story that people have already read, but the OVA is very true to the original manga.

[Y] The OVA staff are very fanatical with the original manga, so I don't perceive anyone wanting to change much.

[K] I don't mind the staff changing the story, but the people working on the anime will probably be very true to the original manga.


[Q] It's been reported from a recent Rondo Robe event in Japan that you will be heavily involved in the OVA production, even including the casting. Is this true?

[K] First time I've heard that. But it looks like I'm going to.

[Y] When casting for the TV series, it was pretty much left to the staff, although they did seek for Hirano's advice. But this time around, there are characters who didn't appear in the TV series but did in the manga, so I would like to have Hirano sit on the auditions.

 

[Random-Helper323]

I just realized we can use stuff from the OVA (I know we've been using OVA stuff before but still)

Kouta Hirano Interview

That does seem interesting. It does still have to be secondary to the manga though.

 

[Robo432343]

using the manga version of the plane feat is fine it's just the ova version is more accurate because it shows us the width of the explosion + the length without contradicting the manga. The manga does not give us the length

 

[Random-Helper323]

@Random-Helper323 is it ok if you can ping some people to check out the thread

The current revision, you mean?

By the way, the ping didn't work, I only saw your message because I got an update on this thread.

 

[Robo432343]

guys
i need help applying the changes
every time i try to edit the powers and abilities it doesn't let me

 

[Da3ggman]

guys
i need help applying the changes
every time i try to edit the powers and abilities it doesn't let me

Send screenshots of what you're doing

 

[Robo432343]

Send screenshots of what you're doing

Alucard (Hellsing)

Alucard (アーカード, Ākādo?) is the main protagonist of the Hellsing series created by Kouta Hirano. He is the most powerful weapon of the Hellsing Organization which works against vampires and other such supernatural forces. Alucard is no mere Vampire, he's in fact, Dracula; it has been implied that...

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i clicked on edit source and it directed me to this

 

[Da3ggman]

Alucard (Hellsing)

Alucard (アーカード, Ākādo?) is the main protagonist of the Hellsing series created by Kouta Hirano. He is the most powerful weapon of the Hellsing Organization which works against vampires and other such supernatural forces. Alucard is no mere Vampire, he's in fact, Dracula; it has been implied that...

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i clicked on edit source and it directed me to this

Yeah, that's right. If you can't do it in source, try switching to visual editor (click the source editor and the option will drop down). Though if what you want to edit is in a dabber, you have to do it in source editor.

 

[Da3ggman]

day 7 of trying to apply the changes:

Bro this is baby steps man you been on the site longer than I have. Have you tried looking at the tutorials on fandom itself for editing pages?

 

[Random-Helper323]

I looked at the pages and some of it has been done already. I couldn't tell what else even needed to be done, so I wasn't sure if I should interfere.

 

[Random-Helper323]

i transferred a recalc of rips speed feat and i got Mach 2,250.9 which is way higher than the speed thats currently given

Rip Van Winkle's magic bullet (Hellsing)

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Not sure we can assume it's that still given it's a sequential art panel.

 

[Robo432343]

Not sure we can assume it's that still given it's a sequential art panel.

@Chariot190 pointed out an issue with the current calc. The problem is that it goes under this assumption:

- The jet moved only one length whilst the bullets circled around it. The distance is likely much smaller considering she would have had to shoot the bullet around the aircraft so if it moved too far the shot would have simply missed. So the actual distance it moved is probably mere meters as it's still in the confines of the circles created by the magic bullet. So this is fair, and eliminates the risk of inflation.

The issue with this is that you see the bullet trail in this panel going all over the place whilst the plane barely moves at all. It would be more accurate to assume a much smaller distance, or even scale a rough "maximum" the jet could have moved in that panel. So assuming that the jet moved one length is wrong

Without this incorrect assumption you get around Mach 68

 

[Robo432343]

i forgot to mention but i got an 8-B calc accepted

Hellsing Calc

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although it is from ultimate
but we already use ultimate stuff on the profiles anyway