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HELLSING - General Discussion

@Random-Helper323 Alucard, Anderson, Seras, and The Captain should be the only ones physically scaling to the blackbird feat right
Also shouldn't the thread be closed? It has 3 staff agreements
 
Robo432343 said:
@Random-Helper323 Alucard, Anderson, Seras, and The Captain should be the only ones physically scaling to the blackbird feat right
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Walter as well. Otherwise it depends. If Alucard is responsible for the survival of the plane that would mean Straitjacket Alucard did it and other downscale. If the plane itself withstood the impact then Rip, Tubalcain and Red Coat Alucard would upscale from half the feat.
Robo432343 said:
Also shouldn't the thread be closed? It has 3 staff agreements
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I'll take a look. Remember Bambu disagreed.
 
Random-Helper323 said:
Walter as well. Otherwise it depends. If Alucard is responsible for the survival of the plane that would mean Straitjacket Alucard did it and other downscale. If the plane itself withstood the impact then Rip, Tubalcain and Red Coat Alucard would upscale from half the feat.
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I was planning on making base Alucard 9-A, wouldn't that be best? Level 1/straightjacket whatever you want to call it clearly superior to his base form and he specifically needed level 1/straightjacket to perform the 8-B feat in the first place. Luke and Tubalcain were all crushed by Level 1 Alucard and the only way i see Rip scaling is with something like, "9-A, 8-B with Musket" so it doesn't make much sense for them to be 8-B. I also doubt Post-Schrodinger key would be able to replicate the same feat give how immensely weakened the form is. Alucard lost all his lives in that key and we know that the more lives/blood consumed, the stronger a vampire will become. I was thinking something like this:

Tier: 9-A, 8-B with Level 1 | Likely 9-A
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should I wait till the CRT is over to make a Crt on my Seras Profile Rework
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Robo432343 said:
I was planning on making base Alucard 9-A, wouldn't that be best? Level 1/straightjacket whatever you want to call it clearly superior to his base form and he specifically needed level 1/straightjacket to perform the 8-B feat in the first place. Luke and Tubalcain were all crushed by Level 1 Alucard and the only way i see Rip scaling is with something like, "9-A, 8-B with Musket" so it doesn't make much sense for them to be 8-B. I also doubt Post-Schrodinger key would be able to replicate the same feat give how immensely weakened the form is. Alucard lost all his lives in that key and we know that the more lives/blood consumed, the stronger a vampire will become. I was thinking something like this:
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No, the Jackal can still stagger Monster Anderson, Base Anderson can somewhat withstand the Jackal, Red Coat Alucard can fight base Anderson. Alucard also still had the same stats after losing all his souls (remember he lost his army before he tore Anderson apart), so Post-Schrodinger wouldn't be physically weaker.
 
Ok i'm fine with that scaling chain, though im curious what it'll look like if Walter's skyscraper feat gets calced to 8-B
the changes can probably be applied but let's leave the thread open in case a staff member wants to comment
 
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Random-Helper323 said:
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what do you think of this wording
Attack Potency: City Block level (Fused with and rammed an SR-71 Blackbird into an aircraft carrier, resulting in this blast [Insert Statistic Value: 55 Tons of TNT]), higher with Level 1 (Effortlessly overpowered and one-shot Luke Valentine, who was capable of fighting his base form) | Likely City Block level, higher with Level 1
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Speed: Massively Hypersonic combat and reaction speeds (Caught one of Rip Vin Winkle's bullets with his teeth which can circle around and tag a Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird that was nosediving at full speed. [Insert Statistic Value: Mach 130.208]) | Massively Hypersonic combat and reaction speeds (Should be comparable to before)
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ehhhh this is why i hate downscaling stuff it doesn't look right

maybe we can split his levels into different keys like this
 
Robo432343 said:
ehhhh this is why i hate downscaling stuff it doesn't look right

maybe we can split his levels into different keys like this
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The issue with that is the keys would have the same Tier and there would have to be four, maybe give if them, with Post-Schrodinger also needing two keys.

Simply linking a stat value like that profile for the first part could be okay.
 
Perhaps something like "At most City Block level+", then "At least / City Block level+" with Straightjacket

However, there is the alternative of scaling redcoat Alucard to this in full via his shadows also tanking the explosion, which make up the baseline of his physical body
 
Random-Helper323 said:
The issue with that is the keys would have the same Tier and there would have to be four, maybe give if them, with Post-Schrodinger also needing two keys.

Simply linking a stat value like that profile for the first part could be okay.
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Can you ping @Crabwhale on this

The scaling would have made much more sense if base alucard was just 9-A
 
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Random-Helper323 said:
No, the Jackal can still stagger Monster Anderson, Base Anderson can somewhat withstand the Jackal, Red Coat Alucard can fight base Anderson. Alucard also still had the same stats after losing all his souls (remember he lost his army before he tore Anderson apart), so Post-Schrodinger wouldn't be physically weaker.
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send scans of those
 
ok i updated the changes on Alucard's profile
you can fix it if i made any mistakes

im not sure about giving Luke and Tubalcain 8-B though
 
Ruby_R_Dracula said:
vsbattles.fandom.com

Ms.Luzifer/Mommy Zorin

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Are you still working on Zorin's profile? I found some new stuff we can add
Zorin can project hallucinations onto an unspecified number of targets by activating the countless spells and magic circles etched onto the right side of his body. Through these hallucinations, he can also intervene in the minds of those affected, inflicting intense psychological damage.

The legend of the Evil Eye, also known as the evil eye, malevolent eye, or demonic eye, which inflicts misfortune and damage on anyone who looks at it, has existed in various parts of the world, particularly along the Mediterranean coast, since before the Common Era. Its power is recorded in various texts, including Greek mythology, the Bible, and the Quran, and in the Talmud, it is so feared that it is said to cause headaches and convulsions in those who look at it and to control 99% of human deaths, although its origin is uncertain. One theory is that people have intuitively known since ancient times that the eyeball is part of the central nervous system, and anatomically, it is a part where the brain protrudes, and therefore they thought that by looking at the eye, they could directly affect the brain of others. Incidentally, the third eye possessed by the chosen ones, which is often cited as a symptom of chuunibyou (eighth-grade syndrome), is not the same as the evil eye, so please do not confuse them.
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Some cool scans for Anderson

Andersen's favorite weapon is a bayonet blessed in a church ceremony. He also uses other weapons such as a "detonation chain" made of connected tubes filled with explosives. Furthermore, Andersen himself possesses abilities that are impossible for ordinary people, such as the power to create a barrier specifically for monsters and the ability to disappear using a special Bible.

His body is imbued with the pinnacle of anti-monster magic possessed by the Papal State, and he has the ability to regenerate to such an extent that Alucard calls him a "regenerator." Furthermore, his combat power is said to far exceed that of two platoons of heavily armed infantry, and like Alucard, he too is a trump card in battles against monsters. Due to his high level of ability and deep faith, he often carries out top-secret solo operations even within the unofficial 13th Section, and tends to leave the command of the armed priest corps, which he leads, to one of his favorite disciples, Heinkel Uhu.

This is the bayonet that Andersen uses. It has been blessed in a church ceremony, and its strike possesses a power that even a vampire's regenerative abilities cannot defend against. Andersen keeps a large number of these bayonets hidden, using them as daggers in close combat and as throwing weapons against opponents at a distance.
 
Robo432343 said:
the current speed ratings are so weird i dont know what to do

i'll comment on the seras profile
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Catching Can Winkle's bullet was done by Red Coat Alucard, and it wasn't even hard for him. So any accepted speed from that should scale to base Anderson, True Vampire Seras, Captain, Dark Walter, and Tubalcain.
 
Random-Helper323 said:
Catching Can Winkle's bullet was done by Red Coat Alucard, and it wasn't even hard for him. So any accepted speed from that should scale to base Anderson, True Vampire Seras, Captain, Dark Walter, and Tubalcain.
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I was just confused because there's a random hypersonic+ rating and a supersonic+ one

Ruby_R_Dracula said:
should I make a crt in this now (after I update the Values)
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Looks good. These are some new abilities/scans/wording for Seras that i think we can add
Incomplete Vampire

Bodily Weaponry (Conventional: Vampires possess fangs or claws which can be used to rip apart their victims and drink their blood)


Surface Scaling (Vampires can walk on walls and run up them)

Regeneration (Low-Mid; Vampires can normally regenerate from things such as Alucard being shot by multiple guns at once and losing parts of his body and arms)

Enhanced senses scan does not work but i think i know how to word it: Enhanced Senses (Vampires through using their third eye are able to see targets even from 600 meters away at night time

New justification for blood absorption? (Vampires are able to suck the blood from humans which acts as both their sustenance and as a way to heal or resurrect themselves

Martial Arts (Due to being trained as a police girl, she is able to pull grapple techniques to subdue her opponent)

Weapon Mastery (Marksmanship; Able to shoot a target from over 600 meters away right in the heart and at night time through the usage of her third eye. Equipped with a 30mm anti-midian cannon, harkonnen, has armor piercing)

Regeneration Negation (Low-Mid; Seras' 30mm anti-midian cannon, harkonnen, is a weapon able to harm and kill vampires)

Explosion Manipulation (Seras' 30mm anti-midian cannon, harkonnen, functions as an anti-tank rifle, equipped with explosive rounds)

Incomplete Seras resistance to mind manip? Resistance to Illusion Creation and Mind Manipulation (Vampires through the use of their third eye can see through illusions, along with this, even vampires untrained in their third eye will be able to tell that something is an illusion


True Vampire

Fear Manipulation (Made soldiers, vampires, and veterans who dominated the battlefield terrified upon her transformation into a true vampire)

Blood Manipulation (Can manipulate her blood to spike up from the ground and stab through enemies)

Darkness Manipulation (Her shadow can casually cover an entire building)

Resistance to fear manipulation? Seras can bypass Zorin's evil eye which creates fear on those who look at it


Attack Potency Justification
What do you think of this instead for 9-B/9-A?

Attack Potency: Wall level (Vampires are noted to be exceedingly powerful, being able to tear through humans like they were mere rags. Ripped apart a horde of ghouls that had her restrained. Can easily crush human skulls), Small Building level with Weapons (Her weapons were able to destroy some of Tubalcain Alhambra's cards, which were able to cut through entire buildings)


Durability
This explosion is 9-A, not 8-B
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Robo432343 said:
I was just confused because there's a random hypersonic+ rating and a supersonic+ one
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supersonic+ is prob for dodging bullets, but might need an actual calc for that

Hypersonic+ is for downscaling shit idfk
Robo432343 said:
Looks good. These are some new abilities/scans/wording for Seras that i think we can add
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aight, was gonna ask anyways cuz some of my scans died.

Durability, the feat is merely there so I can just list it, I ain't making her 8-B cuz if that
 
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