Fezzih_007
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Because he could be using a umbrela or something.
Like, he was not, but you know, there's way to avoid getting wet on the rain. He have a blessing that prevents projectiles for hitting him afteralll.
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King of Hell vs The Blue Lightning of Vollachia (Roronoa Zoro vs Cecilus Segmund)
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Because he could be using a umbrela or something.
Like, he was not, but you know, there's way to avoid getting wet on the rain. He have a blessing that prevents projectiles for hitting him afteralll.
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Rain isnt considered projectile iircI mean, is kinda relevant how he did It.
Because he could be using a umbrela or something.
Like, he was not, but you know, there's way to avoid getting wet on the rain. He have a blessing that prevents projectiles for hitting him afteralll.
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Ohh it wasn't shishi sonson (still using a similar concept tho against it)
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I'm voting for Ceci because I think he's more likely to outskill and oneshot Zoro with CM 3 slashes.
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If it wasnt clear enough, Cecilus clears zoro better than he cleared his pet dog girl
Voting ceci fra
Voting ceci fra
VortechsTG
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I'm just stating Zoro's dodging feats, it's pretty relevant to the thread itself.
Expect the issue is that the size of the storm is never stated. Not all storms are multiple kilometres, especially for something that explicitly came from only 11 directions.
That's not what i'm getting at. Dodging omnidirectional is fine, but it's to the extent that I question.
Scan?
I'll need a scan for that too.
They both use Goken for their precision. And Zoro's is so great he can literally negate durability so false.
And I'm disagreeing there. He utilizes Goken all the time, and against another skilled swordsman like Celi he'll be busting out Goken.
That wasn't even a Brook attack. He had his shadow but that doesn't mean all his moves were based on Brook or that he couldn't make improvements. Brook has never used that move Ryuma did.
Again this is never stated.
He literally matched Ryuma in skill to the point where Ryuma gave him his sword.
Because there are dozens of other ways and furthermore it only came at him from 11 directions. Hardly omnidirectional.
So different feat?
Failing to see how that's hardly relevant or even an argument.
It's not all directions. It's explicitly stated to be 11 directions, and ya know not even a real rainstorm.
Scan please.
VortechsTG
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Actually, I'll add to this because besides the skill difference Cecilus' power null is potentially a huge factor as well since he can cut down any attack Zoro throws at him a likely prevent him from using that attack again at all. It would not be long until he only has pure melee. So maybe it is a stompI definitely don't think this is a stomp lol
But I'll vote Ceci now too fra
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Doubt power null is gonna be useful here tbh. Zoro doesn't really have anything to null.
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what would happen with a fate vs rezero debate?
Fezzih_007
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Why?
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Ong Re:Zero fans have a ******* hive mind with how they all respond to shit at the SAME TIME.
Animals the all of you.
Animals the all of you.
Fezzih_007
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Oh, that gonna happen, you don't worry about that.
The other fate vs Rezero are kinda cringe, but this one about skill gonna be Crazy, i just have to Apply my CRT for Fate that i cooking.
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War. Bloodly anime fanbase war.what would happen with a fate vs rezero debate?
I'm all for chaos but even I wouldn't wanna see that shit.
VortechsTG
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Satella, I think, or someone else, has tried to make Fate matchups for some reason. There's not really any way for ReZero characters to even affect most of them.what would happen with a fate vs rezero debate?
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China-Man is folding both these clowns.
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Zabazab
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You have misunderstood, my apologies.
The 12 projectiles are homing attacks, the difficulty of dodging them is compared to dodging rain or sand in a storm. Also Cecilus was 11 when he did this.
The second feat is Cecilus saying he can dodge rain. It has been hammered in that anything Cecilus says he can do, he can in fact do.
The third feat is his skill in this key being comparable to Reinhard's, who ran through a rainstorm while avoiding every raindrop.
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but hasn't yet achieved that... Only achieved the cutting clouds technique... That's what the statement basically says
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Ah it's all good. Thank you for the explanation.
Ah I see, so it's not exactly a 1:1 thing but more so support for the other feats?
I see. I still am unsure about how legitimate it is, not in the sense of it being literal but in the sense that we have no idea on the size of the storm.
I mean doesn't he have some type of blessing that makes shit that travels near him automatically miss?
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Actually the statement says "I can even dodge the rain if I really try, y'know."
Cecilus being able to do whatever he says he can do:
(This isn't him talking out of his own ass btw, he's aware of his limits like his own mortality as well as his inferiority to certain other swordsmen)
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He still haven't showed to be able to do it, he belives in everything he says now because if he doesn't, it would be impossible to otherwise
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He proves himself right by doing one of the things Arakiya said he cannot do.
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that doesn't matter... He even basically agreed that he currently can't do it
but fr... If I really tried... I can do it but how you do it is by
you're welcome, this information is invaluable
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China-Man is folding both these clowns.
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looks like a baki character victim lowkey
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VortechsTG
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Monkey of Life seeing a statement that explicitly says "I can do this" and then saying it says he can't and then calling us text manipulators? Hmmm.
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To be fair he's the only one here without an anime pfp. Which means all of our opinions are irrelevant.
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And then literally agrees to it being a lie...?
Is this now reverse technique gaslighting or something?
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gg no amount of skills is able to give you that 
or is it hidden
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I think I'm still valid right
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The attack Ryuma used there was explicitly The same attack Brook uses. With the only difference being he used the back of the blade instead of the front.
Brook even chastises Ryuma for using that technique without knowing its history. It’s very much his own move.
prove he has Goken. Brook performed the same feat against a general zombie without it.
I never said he wasn’t skilled enough to match Ryuma, not totally sure why you’re responding to that comment. I was just correcting monkey that he didn’t match the precision of that particular technique, which he didn’t.
The technique is explicitly shown fast enough that the user can walk past the opponent and cut them before the latter even realizes they’ve drawn their sword. I’m confused what you mean, that’s what we’re shown in the panel itself.
Brook used a similar technique to rapidly close the distance and cut a dangerous opponent before they could perceive him and counter.
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Bet.
Information Analysis (Capable of sensing the "Breath" of all things, allowing him to know the trajectory of something's movements before it happens as well as it's location despite not being visible to him. By doing so he can determine the speed, power and angle of where he should cut at allowing him to cut objects he otherwise couldn't with strength alone), Analytical Prediction (Through sensing the breath of someone or an object he can know the trajectory of their actions before it happens), Extrasensory Perception (Through sensing the breath of someone or an object he can know their location despite not being visible to him), Limited Durability Negation (Through sensing the "Breath" of their desired target they're able to cut objects or people they otherwise couldn't through power alone. It's effectiveness begins to lessen against objects or opponent's with durability that far exceeds the limit of this ability)
VortechsTG
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No, you know what that one's my bad. I was distracted. Sorry about that.
But nonetheless, looking at the full quote in context it's very clear he believes he can do it. So it seems likely to me that what he's admitting here is simply that he hasn't tried it yet at this point.
Though that doesn't matter because in the current key he is far superior to when he made this statement, and when he performed a comparable feat, and he is comparable to Reinhard who actually did it.
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zoro is comparable to luffy in skills, zoro has toon force now... He'll just laugh off the concept attack
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C'mon Gin.
I meant specifically Zombie Ryuma, someone who has an entirely different skillset than alive Ryuma, who DOES have it.
Zombie Ryuma doesn't inherit any of the skill of his human body, only the enhanced strength of the corpse. His skills are still, ultimately, taken from the shadow’s owner like any other zombie.
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