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Wait so its naraka + 5 or naraka + 4?
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Masadaverse Discussion Thread 23
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Where did you get the translation for the pantheon prologue?
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So since it seems nobody else has any problems would uploading the LLT profile be ok?
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I think it would be wise to ask more staff on their opinions.PsychoWarper said:
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I think it would be wise to ask more staff on their opinions.
Alright that makes sense.
I know you and Monarch have looked at it, who else should I contact?
Alright that makes sense.
I know you and Monarch have looked at it, who else should I contact?
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And actually, wouldn't the LLT Immorality Negation work on all types of Immortality?
1, 3, 8 from Meth
2, 4, 5, 6, 7 because of 1-A conceptual EE
9, 10 for being able to kill Merc and Marie?
1, 3, 8 from Meth
2, 4, 5, 6, 7 because of 1-A conceptual EE
9, 10 for being able to kill Merc and Marie?
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I mean I honestly wouldnt be surprised at all, if a few others think its legit then ill add it.
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I still DK if Methuselah is really reliant on darkness existing or not considering we changed his abstract existence from type 2 to 1, and iirc having abstract existence 1 means you aren't reliant ish on it to exist and come back from...I might have to ask that in a Q&A thread to make sure tho.
The last one should work cuz of what it's actually intended for (i.e Killing Merc). Marie's a weird one cuz I think she was stabbed and then dragged into Glads the first time she and Ren (well mainly Ren) met Reinhard for the first time (Shrugs).
The last one should work cuz of what it's actually intended for (i.e Killing Merc). Marie's a weird one cuz I think she was stabbed and then dragged into Glads the first time she and Ren (well mainly Ren) met Reinhard for the first time (Shrugs).
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Well Meth is darkness, so unless you destroy all of darkness (or his mystery), he'll just come back - so I think it still counts.
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Then shouldn't he have Type 2 Abstract Existence then? That sounds like another way of him being reliant on it.
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Thinking about it, is it possible to just give him both AE 1 and 2? Cuz he's darkness itself and if he can come back as long as all of it still exists then I don't have to complain about it.
To me, he either gets 1 and don't get regen anymore, 2, or just have both.
To me, he either gets 1 and don't get regen anymore, 2, or just have both.
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I am 99% sure that you can't have more than 1 type of AE.
And he is definitely Type 1 AE.
Although, I thought Type 1 also had the Regenerationn thing that Type 2 had, the only difference being that unlike with Type 2 AE, you have to affect the abstraction itself.
And he is definitely Type 1 AE.
Although, I thought Type 1 also had the Regenerationn thing that Type 2 had, the only difference being that unlike with Type 2 AE, you have to affect the abstraction itself.
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^ I thought the same
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See that's the thing I don't get then.
M (Shikkoku no Sharnoth), for example, use to have Regenerationn for being an abstract being in a way just like Methuselah is here. Then he had some revision and he ended up losing his regen.
Methuselah should not get regen if he's a Type 1 abstract and I'm honestly getting really pissed at how he has this as a Type 1.
M (Shikkoku no Sharnoth), for example, use to have Regenerationn for being an abstract being in a way just like Methuselah is here. Then he had some revision and he ended up losing his regen.
Methuselah should not get regen if he's a Type 1 abstract and I'm honestly getting really pissed at how he has this as a Type 1.
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Did he lose his regen because of him becoming Type 1, or was it something else unrelated?
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Because he became Type 1, and also because he wasn't stated to be reliant on it.
Seriouisly I read the Abstract Existence page several times and the difference between the two is Type 2 gives you the immortality and Regenerationn. Type 1 just means you're a pure abstraction.
If you can show me a char whose like Methuselah then I'll concede. It's just stupid to give someone whose a pure abstraction to have Regenerationn when that's not how I remember Type 1 being.
Seriouisly I read the Abstract Existence page several times and the difference between the two is Type 2 gives you the immortality and Regenerationn. Type 1 just means you're a pure abstraction.
If you can show me a char whose like Methuselah then I'll concede. It's just stupid to give someone whose a pure abstraction to have Regenerationn when that's not how I remember Type 1 being.
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This is just one thing I'm trying to also get clear on cuz IDK if a Type 1 can even get Regenerationn.
Type 2 is obvious but IDK about Type 1's. Again if there's a character like Methuselah whose type 1 but has regen and/or even immortality like his then I won't bring up the issue about this anymore.
Type 2 is obvious but IDK about Type 1's. Again if there's a character like Methuselah whose type 1 but has regen and/or even immortality like his then I won't bring up the issue about this anymore.
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You know what, don't even bother. I don't even care and I'll just figure this out on my own and unsubscribe from here. Gives me too much of a problem to deal with anyways like it has in the previous talk threads.
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I said I thought, dude - I could easily be wrong.
You want to take off Meth's Type 8, that's fine with me.
You want to take off Meth's Type 8, that's fine with me.
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I added the Types to the Immortality Neg.
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Or you know, just create a Q&A thread and ask there.
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I know that it is referring to the 5 unknown entities. I was asking regarding about the human part. I should've made that clear.Eganergo said:
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It mentions prior to those statements that walking through one night is scary, and seeing as Meth is a billion trillion nights all at once, being in his darkness is scary x a billion trillion, and that is what crushes your mind from the fear.Paul Frank said:
It doesn't state that he forces the fear into your mind anywhere, it's simply that he is really scary, and because he is so scary people's minds break from the fear they are feeling. "Engulfed by the darkness" is quite literal, if you are inside his darkness, his nights, then you are feeling the fear of being in the night x all the nights he is made of.
He's not forcing the fear into your mind, you are just feeling fear as a result of being in the dark, except it's the dark x a billion so the fear you are feeling is also x a billion, which breaks the mind.
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So? What does it matter if he is forcing it onto someone or not?
Meth's being is still so scary that any who are within his darkness experience the fright of night times like ten nonillion or something large like that - which shatters the mind.
The legionaries are able to resist the passive fear manipulation that comes from Meth's very being - its still a resistance.
Meth's being is still so scary that any who are within his darkness experience the fright of night times like ten nonillion or something large like that - which shatters the mind.
The legionaries are able to resist the passive fear manipulation that comes from Meth's very being - its still a resistance.
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Yeah it says that walking through the dark is disturbing and that Meth is madd of seemingly infinite nights which causes everyone's mind to shatter from the weight of the abyss.
His pressure affected half the planet at once, causing those who were within the darkness to see nightmares that would plague them for generations and drove them mad which is pretty clearly type 2 madness manip or just mindhax not just fear manip like you seem to be implying
His pressure affected half the planet at once, causing those who were within the darkness to see nightmares that would plague them for generations and drove them mad which is pretty clearly type 2 madness manip or just mindhax not just fear manip like you seem to be implying
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I think Monarch's point is less him not having those abilities, but rather they are side effects of the immense primal fear caused by the darkness of his nights. So, a consequential effect? Something like that?
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Effectively.
Yes he breaks the mind, drives people mad, etc etc but that is simply the after effect of people getting really really scared. And it's a completely natural effect -> people are scared of being in the dark, so naturally if they are in a billion nights worth of dark, they're going to be a billion times more scared. And thus they go insane from that fear.
If the legionnaires simply resist the fear, then the part about it breaking their mind and driving them insane never happens, because they never reach that level of terror.
Yes he breaks the mind, drives people mad, etc etc but that is simply the after effect of people getting really really scared. And it's a completely natural effect -> people are scared of being in the dark, so naturally if they are in a billion nights worth of dark, they're going to be a billion times more scared. And thus they go insane from that fear.
If the legionnaires simply resist the fear, then the part about it breaking their mind and driving them insane never happens, because they never reach that level of terror.
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I know that it is referring to the 5 unknown entities. I was asking regarding about the human part. I should've made that clear.
I think he's just talking about humans in general. He wouldn't use that kind of word for gudou gods, they are not human in the "human sense". It is also not an analogy compared to his power like Yato did regarding his difference with Hajun because he would use a word like "trash, insect, shit or something along those lines. Gomi". He's probably just talking about humans in general. "Kami? Dou Demon ii, shiran kotoba da". Having to fill the role of "God" in KKK pissed him off because he wanted to be alone. But if you're, like, the source and absolute, everything will be a part of you, and everything will go to you.
I think he's just talking about humans in general. He wouldn't use that kind of word for gudou gods, they are not human in the "human sense". It is also not an analogy compared to his power like Yato did regarding his difference with Hajun because he would use a word like "trash, insect, shit or something along those lines. Gomi". He's probably just talking about humans in general. "Kami? Dou Demon ii, shiran kotoba da". Having to fill the role of "God" in KKK pissed him off because he wanted to be alone. But if you're, like, the source and absolute, everything will be a part of you, and everything will go to you.
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i mean doesn't hajun consider EVERYTHING trash. And he kinda doesn't give any F's due to how power and how insane he is
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So i heard Wilhelm and Rusalka are hated in this site and games, is that true?
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Wasn't there a line in the novel that stated that only Reinhard and Mercuruius were the one's completely unaffected by Meth's pressure? Here.Monarch Laciel said:
Meaning that the LDO was, in fact, affected by Meth's pressure and did feel the fear. However, they were able to keep their sanity and remain fighting.
So it would still be a mental resistance no matter how you put it.
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Maybe, but it's an effect caused by being really scared that they resist. It wouldn't necessarily extend to resisting every form of mind hax out there.
Given that the fear breaks minds and the spear crushes minds though, fair enough, it can be scaled to the spear.
Given that the fear breaks minds and the spear crushes minds though, fair enough, it can be scaled to the spear.
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I have not heard anyone one the site, besides The real cal Howard say he dislikes either Rusalka or Wilhelm so I don't know where you got this.Veloxt1r0kore said:
My take? I adore Willy - I find him hilarious. I despise Rusalka, however. I can't stand her because of her ideaology being in stark contrast to my own.
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She cute tho
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