Mewtwo vs Iihiko Shishime

[Crimson7867]

5-B Mewtwo is used, speed equal and win via anything! Fight.

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

bump.

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

bump.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

What can Mewtwo do here?

 

[Ionliosite]

Iihiko rubber bands.

 

[Peppypony]

If I remember correctly, Mewtwo starts off with telekinesis. This thread's Water Bottle told me that Subjective Immunity negged All Fiction and he told me that's 4-D apparently. Mewtwo doesn't have any 4-D powers or abilities.

He told me that it should be able to negate Mewtwo's telekinesis. But I'll let other people debate on that.

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

I think it is 4-D, not 100% sure.

I could be proven wrong.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Subjective Immunity is 4-D, yes

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

Cool!

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

So. Iihiko stomps Mewtwo?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I guess so

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

I think we first should wait the input of more Pokemon supporters.

 

[GyroNutz]

How does one get Iihiko to recognise something?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

The ability itself must be able to force recognition

 

[TriforcePower1]

You basically can't, unless you have some sort of non-supernatural OP charisma (or Social Influencing in general).

Though his nulling ability was downgraded from 4D some time ago iirc

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

When? Which thread?

 

[GyroNutz]

If Mewtwo's telekinesis wasn't to work, even to grab and toss, could Mewtwo use telekinesis to redirect one of Iihiko's rubber bands at himself?

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

When? Which thread?

^^ @Trifoce Link please?

 

[Schnee_One]

You basically can't, unless you have some sort of non-supernatural OP charisma (or Social Influencing in general).

Though his nulling ability was downgraded from 4D some time ago iirc

Laughs in Aleister Crowley

 

[TriforcePower1]

If Mewtwo's telekinesis wasn't to work, even to grab and toss, could Mewtwo use telekinesis to redirect one of Iihiko's rubber bands at himself?

I'm quite sure the telekinesis would "break" due to how Iihiko's ability works and be unaffected.

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

If Mewtwo's telekinesis wasn't to work, even to grab and toss, could Mewtwo use telekinesis to redirect one of Iihiko's rubber bands at himself?

Subjective Immunity is also on the rubber band.

 

[GyroNutz]

That seems weird. Does it have feats of 'breaking' Class Z telekinesis?

Edit: Ok it gets power nulled, I understand now

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

Doesn't matter, unless Mewtwo telekinesis has feats of bypassing Power Nullification of the degree of SI, the telekinesis won't work on the rubber band.

 

[GyroNutz]

Greninja'd

 

[GyroNutz]

What if Mewtwo lifts the ground that Iihiko is standing on into space?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Mewtwo dies before he does that, since he doesnt know about SI

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

What if Mewtwo lifts the ground that Iihiko is standing on into space?

I dunno...I think it could work.

 

[GyroNutz]

Mewtwo dies before he does that

How? Iihiko has a range of a couple of meters against an opponent who abuses flight, range and teleportation, and is smart enough to keep a distance from an opponent it can otherwise do literally nothing to.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Uh, Mewtwo one-shots? 5B vs 5C and all that

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Uh, Mewtwo one-shots? 5B vs 5C and all that

Subjective Immunity tho

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Mewtwo dies before he does that

How? Iihiko has a range of a couple of meters against an opponent who abuses flight, range and teleportation, and is smart enough to keep a distance from an opponent it can otherwise do literally nothing to.

I guess that could work. Does Mewtwo has resistance to possession?

 

[InfiniteSped]

NLF tho. It was agreed in another thread some time ago that he can't negate stuff above the level he's already shown, since people were saying he could negate even High 3A attacks and shit.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Agnaa and Earl said SI is 4-D

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

Unless those characters above his tier have resistance to Power Nullification or are 5-D, their attacks won't work.

 

[GyroNutz]

I guess that could work. Does Mewtwo has resistance to possession?

Depends how it works

 

[InfiniteSped]

Agnaa agreed that it couldn't just block any attack in another thread. It's the reason why Iihiko lost to Lord Revelation.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3323278#80

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I guess that could work. Does Mewtwo has resistance to possession?

Depends how it works

If you kill Iihiko, you become him

 

[Zaratthustra]

Unless those characters above his tier have resistance to Power Nullification or are 5-D, their attacks won't work.

Where does that 5-D comes? You don't need 5-D to hurt him.

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

It seems Iihiko got hit with the nerf gun and I didn't know.

 

[Zaratthustra]

He never had 5-D.