MHS+ MCU?

[Hizack123]

It's weird how watching the moon throwing feat again, the chunks of moon thrown from space traveled really fast, then slowed down once it reached the planet. Then again, I might need a Blu-Ray copy to check again.

CoughCinematic TimeCough

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@Azzy

It doesn't even look like the actual portals he makes with the Space Stone. It looks more like the meteors are entering some sort of Hyperdrive, which makes sense given that he's throwing it at them real fast.

 

[ByAsura]

Not sure why the portals would even move with the Meteors at all if they're portals. That would literally be the opposite of their function.

I'll say what i said in the other thread

"His portals look nothing like that, they look like blue cgi water surrounding black spaces.

I watched the scene again, that blue flash wasn't a portal, it was some blue energy surrounding the moon after Thanos detonated it. It looked like lightning at first, and then came down with the meteors when Thanos pulled all of them in together."

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

And we should stop discussing about the stupid portal thing and focus on who scales to MHS+.

However, the Titan is highly unlikely to be the Titan in our solar system in Infinity War. It seems more like a planet.

The default assumption is our Earth and our Moon, which is 384 000 000 m apart. 3.31 seconds is the timeframe

38.7% of the speed of light, Relativistic

 

[ByAsura]

Actually, as Matt pointed out, Thanos sort of put them into hyperdrive, but we don't see this effect when they're near Earth.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

So we downgrade Spidey?

 

[ByAsura]

What about High Hypersonic. They should still be 11 km/s.

 

[Therefir]

Downgrade? More like upgrade.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Nobody scales 100% to the meteors. They are much faster and can only react via distance.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The default assumption is our Earth and our Moon, which is 384 000 000 m apart. 3.31 seconds is the timeframe

38.7% of the speed of light, Relativistic

This assumption is flawed, Titan's moon is far closer to the planet than our own, it can be seen with the size it has.

 

[Gemmysaur]

We still need a calc of them moving relative to the meteors, too.

 

[ByAsura]

I forgot about this, but Titan's gravity is completely off as well. Basically the core shifted 6 degrees from its original position is what they say in the movie. Would this do much to the calc?

 

[Gemmysaur]

I forgot about this, but Titan's gravity is completely off as well. Basically the core shifted 6 degrees from its original position is what they say in the movie. Would this do much to the calc?

Probably have more intense seasons. Summer sun heats more, winter nights last longer, larger polar circles but smaller ice caps, etc.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I forgot about this, but Titan's gravity is completely off as well. Basically the core shifted 6 degrees from its original position is what they say in the movie. Would this do much to the calc?

Quill doesn't mention the core. He says this about Titan:

"What the hell happened to this planet? Its 8 degrees off of its axis. Gravitational pull is all over the place."

But what Gemmysaur said should still apply. The strange gravity might impact the power of the meteors once Thanos stops controlling them.

 

[Gemmysaur]

On another note, is the Asgardian refugee ship exploding calcable? We can clearly see an Asgardian body floating in space with Thor when the Guardians arrive, implying they are durable enough to survive it.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Once we get the scene it should be easy to calculate. I imagine the result would be in the Tier 7.

 

[ByAsura]

Snip

Ok, so it was just the general planet.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Just remember that the ship is only about half as big as it was during Ragnarok (due to being, ya know, split in half) and it should be pretty simple.

 

[Schnee_One]

Question

Didn't Hela manage to easily react to Mjoner being thrown at her at near point blank from a bloodlusted Thor?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Hela? Yes she did.

 

[Schnee_One]

Wouldn't it scale to her somewhat as she reacted to an MHS attack casually?

Could that be calced?

 

[Parkjammer]

Does this make Quicksilver relativistic via scaling?

 

[Therefir]

The Mjolnir is only MHS while returning, not when Thor throws it.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It legit reached space in seconds. And it isn't faster when returning.

I'm more concerned with the divide between Iron Man's Travel and Reaction Speed. It is objectively nonexistent. Iron Man is consistently making twists and turns, dodging stuff and attacks while flying, flying around his enemies, etc.

 

[The_Everlasting]

The Mjolnir is only MHS while returning, not when Thor throws it.

This is an unfounded non-argument. I have yet to see a reason why this is a used argument.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Legit I also looked at many Thor scenes and Thor consistently has to tilt his hand and manually grab Mjolnir every time he's recalling it. It doesn't attach to his hand. It just flies back to his general direction.

I'd have to watch a bunch of scenes and make a ton of gifs to prove this, though, so low-priority.

 

[Schnee_One]

And the Guardiams of the Galaxy piloting a Hypersonic Ship through an Asteroid belt....

 

[Parkjammer]

It's not an unfounded argument, Thor's hammer has had much faster showings when returning to him then when he throws it. It's perfectly reasonable to assume that when he calls it comes back faster than when he throws it, just looking at feats

 

[Gemmysaur]

MHS throwing is out the window now anyway, once those meteor-dodging feats are calced.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@Park

The same movie where he returns at MHS speeds has MHS throwing

@Gargoyle

MHS+ Yondu with Jetpack.

 

[Therefir]

Then why Hela and Thor doesn't have MHS reactions? I thought we already discussed this, the conclusion was that Mjolnir's throwing speed doesn't scale to its returning speed.

It looks like when they put that Thor has MHS throwing speed in his profile, they forgot that several characters can react to the Mjolnir.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Yeah, Hela and Thor should have MHS reactions.

 

[Blitzedaken]

what about iron man keeping up with q ship?

 

[Naitez]

Too little information to calc Iron Man's flying speeds boost. I tried doing a rough calc of the pod that had the Iron Spider suit and its only Supersonic.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Bump

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

bump

 

[Revan_Laha]

Bump

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Bump

Also I'll be changing Spider-Man's rating to unknown for now until we finish discussing.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

bump

Hela should have mhs reactions.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

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