Minor Deltarune Revision - Nonbinary Kris

[AyOgUyS]

Hi. The purpose of this CRT is to change Kris' gender from "Unknown" to "Non-binary" and add a note onto their page that states "Kris exclusively and explicitly uses They/Them pronouns."

Kris is exclusively referred to in Deltarune with singular they/them pronouns and unlike Chara and Frisk, they are explicitly their own character separate from us, the Player. Toby Fox also referred to Kris as "they” right after someone else had previously referred to Kris as "he" (should be noted that Toby was using a TTS to talk so his statements were very likely delayed), indicating that yes, the intention is for Kris to be nonbinary.

Should be pretty straightforward and uncontroversial.

Agree: @Echidnacodefan2512, @LittleGuy99, @The_Renegade_Slugger, @Randomuser3412, @Ghengiroo115, @Edutyn, @GrathOfLux (Admin & HR), @Comiphorous

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

Agree

 

[LittleGuy99]

Agree

 

[The_Renegade_Slugger]

Something something, agree

 

[Randomuser3412]

Something something, agree

Oh, dear... it just keeps growing day after day (agree)

 

[The_Renegade_Slugger]

Agree

DAMN beat me by a second

 

[AyOgUyS]

Something something, agree

ITS OVER NINE THOUSAND!!

(hopefully one day...)

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Agree, hopefully this’ll be uncontroversial.

 

[AyOgUyS]

Agree, hopefully this’ll be uncontroversial.

There's really no reason at all for this to be even remotely controversial, its one of the most blatant examples of a nonbinary character imo.

 

[Edutyn]

Agree

Not clear enought, gime another 100 references.

Agree

 

[Lilybitdun]

Toby Fox referred to Kris as "they” right after someone else had previously referred to Kris as "he", indicating that yes, the intention is for Kris to be nonbinary.

You should prob put the scan of when this happened

 

[AyOgUyS]

You should prob put the scan of when this happened

Eh sure I'll look for it

 

[AyOgUyS]

Ok found the clip:

Admittedly I misremembered it but should still be notable

 

[GrathOfLux]

Are you suggesting changing the "Gender" section specifically to list "They/Them"? There is no dedicated pronoun section on the page to my knowledge.

I believe we'd normally use the Gender section to list something more along the lines of "Non-Binary", and I'd generally prefer this - but if there are examples on the wiki of simply listing the character's pronouns in that space then that's no fuss. In any case, I'm surprised it's remained with "Unknown" for this long, and I support changing it to better communicate this element one way or another.

 

[AyOgUyS]

Are you suggesting changing the "Gender" section specifically to list "They/Them"? There is no dedicated pronoun section on the page to my knowledge.

I believe we'd normally use the Gender section to list something more along the lines of "Non-Binary", and I'd generally prefer this - but if there are examples on the wiki of simply listing the character's pronouns in that space then that's no fuss. In any case, I'm surprised it's remained with "Unknown" for this long, and I support changing it to better communicate this element one way or another.

I think I wasn't clear enough, I'll edit the OP in a bit but I'm suggesting Kris' gender be changed to "Non-binary" like in this page.

Edit: Maybe an additional note that Kris uses exclusively they/them would be nice as well, will add to OP

 

[GrathOfLux]

That should be fine.

 

[AyOgUyS]

That should be fine.

Is this revision considered minor enough that your vote alone is enough, or do I need more staff input?

 

[Comiphorous]

Someone should at some point fix it on Frisk/Chara's page as well. Those two have been unknown for some time as well. despite also being non-binary characters as well.

Anyways, yeah this is simple i agree.

Edit: Actually, it's very simple. I should just do it myself.