Murder Drones CRT: Upgrades

[RealDuker98]

Hax:

• Healing: Solver Users can heal others and themselves. For example, Uzi completely healing a bug she crushed or Cyn restoring her arm after it had been cut off from Uzi's body. This should also be High-Godly as the degree of their healing should likely be on an informational level as as Murder Drone's universe is underlined with raw information(though will have to wait for this to get accepted first).
• Power Nullification/Acid Manipulation: The tails of Disassembly Drones contain a syringe of highly acidic yellow liquid with nanites that are capable of eating away and corroding substances. N managed to bypass Nori's healing abilities via nanite acid. In Episode 8, we can see that Uzi's NULL is capable of freezing Cyn's tentacles as a program would be if it was overwhelmed by something, which is even further exemplified by the fact we see the iconic error symbol that is associated with programs failing to work.
• Immortality(I had this in another CRT, but I wanna frame it better):
  • Type 1: They are robots.
  • Type 4: Disassembly Drones have multiple bodies.
  • Type 5: The solver’s true form is a code and is naturally abstract. This means the solver can't die in a traditional way and being a program also means it's outside of our traditional life and death cycle.
  • Type 9: This caused some chaos last time so let's get this straight and tbh I still am a bit confused between type 5 and 9. The true self of the absolute solver exists as a program in a plane not accessible to conventional methods of destruction.
  • Disassembly Drones are for some reason not given any immortality? These guys should be given Type 1,2,3,4,,6,7,8.
• Size Manipulation with Potential Durability Negation/Existence Erasure: Scaling off Doll who could use the scale symbol to shrink this worker drone to the point she doesn't exist. Uzi did the same with Brandon's head. However, I don't know if this is dura neg or EE.
• Restoration: Uzi restores a door.
• Weapon Creation(For DDs): Disassembly Drones can utilize their hands to transform them into weapons, which according to Liam, can become anything they desire.

Speed:

• Cyn is blatantly stated to have a speed of 42957 KM/H or High Hypersonic+.
• MFTL Reactions were rejected due to this reason. I think this is quite ridiculous. Not only are we talking about a verse where objects with mass can travel 200 times faster than the speed of light so it's very possible this flash of light also does, but also the commentor said it themselves, the sentinels were designed to keep these drones out and their bootloop should logically upscale their reactions. This is also humanity more than 1000 years into the future who not only can craft ships that go at MFTL speeds, but more impressively managed to create a patch for something that is literally referred to as "robo-satan" in limited time. They definitely can afford to make the sentinel's boot-loops way faster than the speed of light. And it shouldn't even be counted as a flash of light as that would imply that any flash of light would boot-loop a drone.

Attack Potency:

• So I wanna talk about the gravitational waves. Calling a feat vague isn't a refutation to whether it happened or not. It's not a sufficient enough debunk on why said feat is flat out wrong. Another reason this shouldn't be called "vague" is because it specifies detectable gravitational waves which can only occur via Supernovas, 2 neutron stars colliding or 2 black holes colliding.

Agree:
Incon:
Disagree:

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Hax:

• Healing: Solver Users can heal others and themselves. For example, Uzi completely healing a bug she crushed or Cyn restoring her arm after it had been cut off from Uzi's body. This should also be High-Godly as the degree of their healing should likely be on an informational level as as Murder Drone's universe is underlined with raw information(though will have to wait for this to get accepted first).

This isn't High-Godly. There is no evidence that they can heal others after being erased from existence along with their soul, mind, and information. Also, Information Type 2 is not accepted.

• Power Nullification/Acid Manipulation: The tails of Disassembly Drones contain a syringe of highly acidic yellow liquid with nanites that are capable of eating away and corroding substances. N managed to bypass Nori's healing abilities via nanite acid. In Episode 8, we can see that Uzi's NULL is capable of freezing Cyn's tentacles as a program would be if it was overwhelmed by something, which is even further exemplified by the fact we see the iconic error symbol that is associated with programs failing to work.

• Immortality(I had this in another CRT, but I wanna frame it better):
  • Type 1: They are robots.

Not Type 1. If there any proof they don't get any signs of aging or corrosion and live for eternal then it's Type 1

• • Type 4: Disassembly Drones have multiple bodies.

What? This isn't Type 4

• • Type 5: The solver’s true form is a code and is naturally abstract. This means the solver can't die in a traditional way and being a program also means it's outside of our traditional life and death cycle.

Not Type 5. This is just Avatar Creation.

• • Type 9: This caused some chaos last time so let's get this straight and tbh I still am a bit confused between type 5 and 9. The true self of the absolute solver exists as a program in a plane not accessible to conventional methods of destruction.

Since it's not another dimension, so it's not Type 9.
And no comment on others abilities

 

[RealDuker98]

This isn't High-Godly. There is no evidence that they can heal others after being erased from existence along with their soul, mind, and information. Also, Information Type 2 is not accepted.

The entire verse is underlined by raw information as explained and I already mentioned the need to wait for it.

Not Type 1. If there any proof they don't get any signs of aging or corrosion and live for eternal then it's Type 1

A robot cannot age. Nowhere is it implied that they age. Also in Episode 4, Khan shows an image which is likely 19-20 years ago considering Nori was still completely intact and he appears to be the same age as the present.

What? This isn't Type 4

"Characters that are immortal because, whenever they die, they will simply reincarnate within another body or resurrect themselves at a later point in time."

Not Type 5. This is just Avatar Creation.

Nope. Like I said a program is unbound to our conventional life and death cycle and cannot be killed by traditional methods.

Since it's not another dimension, so it's not Type 9.

It actually is since the Absolute Solver is described as a "singularity"(a 4D object in sci-fi context). The verse is also based on Einstein physics which consider singularities as points where the theory itself breaks down, often mathematically described as infinite density/curvature in 4D spacetime (3 space + 1 time dimension).

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

The entire verse is underlined by raw information as explained and I already mentioned the need to wait for it.

Even if it's get accept, this isn't High-Godly.

A robot cannot age. Nowhere is it implied that they age.

It can be shown signs of corrosion in robots lol

Also in Episode 4, Khan shows an image which is likely 19-20 years ago considering Nori was still completely intact and he appears to be the same age as the present.

At best Longevity

"Characters that are immortal because, whenever they die, they will simply reincarnate within another body or resurrect themselves at a later point in time."

Did they die then reincarnate within another body? If no, then it's not Type 4

Nope. Like I said a program is unbound to our conventional life and death cycle and cannot be killed by traditional methods.

This isn't argument, program in fiction isn't same as our program in real world lol. Death can also affect programs in some of fiction. So you needs to proof they are unbound to our conventional life and death.

It actually is since the Absolute Solver is described as a "singularity"(a 4D object in sci-fi context). The verse is also based on Einstein physics which consider singularities as points where the theory itself breaks down, often mathematically described as infinite density/curvature in 4D spacetime (3 space + 1 time dimension).

Disagree

• Type 9; Characters whose true selves exist independently from the plane where they can be killed.

Their code form aren't exist independently from where they can be killed. So no.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Instead of Immortality Type 5, Inorganic Physiology Type 2 make more senses for them.

 

[RealDuker98]

Even if it's get accept, this isn't High-Godly.

Information Type 2 counts for High-Godly

It can be shown signs of corrosion in robots lol

"Characters gifted with this type of immortality cannot die from natural causes, such as old age or conventional illness, but can be killed by unnatural causes. To clarify, this type of immortality can include both those who do not age at all, and those who still grow old, but will never die of old age. However, in the case of the latter, it should be made clear that this is not just Longevity, as characters with that ability will eventually die of old age, as opposed to Eternal Life, for which dying of old age is not possible". This does not include corrosion. And either way they have shown no sign of corrosion.

Did they die then reincarnate within another body? If no, then it's not Type 4

J quite literally comes back because Cyn had made multiple back-ups of her. This also proves you just didn't watch the show.

This isn't argument, program in fiction isn't same as our program in real world lol. Death can also affect programs in some of fiction. So you needs to proof they are unbound to our conventional life and death.

Nope. The only way a program can be killed is via termination which is not a conventional way of killing. And the funny thing is, you need proof that the absolute solver is an exception to the "programs can't be killed" thing.

Their code form aren't exist independently from where they can be killed. So no.

Says what? If their codes didn't exist independently then the humans would have terminated the Absolute Solver before it became a threat.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Information Type 2 counts for High-Godly

High-Godly: The ability to regenerate after the erasure of body, mind, soul, and at least one other fundamental aspect of a character's existence. Such an aspect could be their place in the narrative, their history, their information (Type 2), their concept, or something else along those lines. For any aspect to qualify, destruction of that aspect must cause erasure of the character in some form, and evidence must exist that the character cannot exist without that fundamental aspect existing as well. In addition, it must not be something that regenerating the body, mind, or soul would ordinarily restore. As such, take care when evaluating Type 3 concepts, and aspects that are not sufficiently expanded upon to make a judgment will not qualify.

Even if universe made by pure information, don't means they can heal someone after erasure from existence with his information.

And again, you can't add it without Info type 2 get accept, so why you add it? lol.

"Characters gifted with this type of immortality cannot die from natural causes, such as old age or conventional illness, but can be killed by unnatural causes. To clarify, this type of immortality can include both those who do not age at all, and those who still grow old, but will never die of old age. However, in the case of the latter, it should be made clear that this is not just Longevity, as characters with that ability will eventually die of old age, as opposed to Eternal Life, for which dying of old age is not possible".

Same thing with Longevity lol. Shown someone don't get old after 20 years without any support for he is immortal, so not enough for Type 1

This does not include corrosion. And either way they have shown no sign of corrosion.

Corrosion is also count as conventional illness lol. Even if don't shown it, it would be Longevity, since 20 years don't enough, it depends on the many years I've lived for example A was live for the beginning of time/universe, and he still live and don't shown sign of old age or conventional illness, so it can be Immortality Type 1

J quite literally comes back because Cyn had made multiple back-ups of her. This also proves you just didn't watch the show.

Did he was died? If this yes, then it's Immortality Type 6. Type 4 is for be regenerate after literally die

Nope. The only way a program can be killed is via termination which is not a conventional way of killing. And the funny thing is, you need proof that the absolute solver is an exception to the "programs can't be killed" thing.

They possess Inorganic Physiology Type 2, sk don't even need to add Type 5 lol. Even if they are program, Death hax can be work on information lvl in some of fiction, this wiki don't depend on real world for hax

Says what? If their codes didn't exist independently then the humans would have terminated the Absolute Solver before it became a threat.

I don't really know about verse. But exist as program in computer doesn't make you have Type 9. Only if compute are dimension.

 

[RealDuker98]

Even if universe made by pure information, don't means they can heal someone after erasure from existence with his information.

Fair enough.

Same thing with Longevity lol. Shown someone don't get old after 20 years without any support for he is immortal, so not enough for Type 1

I mean I could say the same thing in reverse, but just so you know, the humans had to specifically dispatch these guys to get rid of them. They did not wait for aging despite the fact there was a risk for an absolute solver takeover. Also the Absolute Solver is a program which cannot get an illness(unless you wanna say a program can somehow corrode).

Did he was died? If this yes, then it's Immortality Type 6. Type 4 is for be regenerate after literally die

Type 3 is for regeneration and the verse already has that.

3: Immortality via regeneration: Characters with this type of immortality can simply regenerate from wounds that would normally be lethal, though its effectiveness depends on the degree of the regeneration.

Type 4 is reincarnation or Resurrection

4: Immortality via reincarnation or resurrection: Characters that are immortal because, whenever they die, they will simply reincarnate within another body or resurrect themselves at a later point in time.

Type 6 is parasitic

6: Parasitic: The character is able to attain a sort of immortality by abandoning bodies whenever necessary to transfer their consciousness to another body, whether they are possessing someone else or switching to a backup body.

J cannot abandon her body. Also this is the context.
Also she*.

They possess Inorganic Physiology Type 2, sk don't even need to add Type 5 lol. Even if they are program, Death hax can be work on information lvl in some of fiction, this wiki don't depend on real world for hax

Fine. We already have Inorganic Physiology Type 2.

I don't really know about verse. But exist as program in computer doesn't make you have Type 9. Only if compute are dimension.

It actually is since the Absolute Solver is described as a "singularity"(a 4D object in sci-fi context). The verse is also based on Einstein physics which consider singularities as points where the theory itself breaks down, often mathematically described as infinite density/curvature in 4D spacetime (3 space + 1 time dimension).

Also they still do not manage to kill the solver by the end of the series. It still resides within Uzi.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Fair enough.

I mean I could say the same thing in reverse, but just so you know, the humans had to specifically dispatch these guys to get rid of them. They did not wait for aging despite the fact there was a risk for an absolute solver takeover. Also the Absolute Solver is a program which cannot get an illness(unless you wanna say a program can somehow corrode).

Type 3 is for regeneration and the verse already has that.


Type 4 is reincarnation or Resurrection

Type 6 is parasitic

Type 3 and 4 are same based on "regenerate", but Type 4 is when you are literally died but after this you regenerate and be alive again. Type 4 can be also not based on "regenerate" but be alive again after died. Type 6 is based on when your old body no longer useful, then transfer your consciousness to another body.

J cannot abandon her body. Also this is the context.

6: Parasitic: The character is able to attain a sort of immortality by abandoning bodies whenever necessary to transfer their consciousness to another body, whether they are possessing someone else or switching to a backup body.

Whoever they have same thing in blog

• Immortality (Types 2, 3, Limited 6, Potentially 7 & 8; Disassembly drones can survive being stabbed in the torso. Disassembly Drones run on the AbsoluteSolver program, which is a program designed to collect materials<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Drone_Physiology#cite_note-two-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a> from to build new material, Disassembly Drones, in particular, can always regenerate from their core as long as there is enough material<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Drone_Physiology#cite_note-one-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> or stored matter to do so. Cyn has created multiple copies of the Disassembly Drones<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Drone_Physiology#cite_note-seven-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> models of N, V, and J, and they have stated to have endless backups and clones of them<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Drone_Physiology#cite_note-seven-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Drone_Physiology#cite_note-six-7"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a> that she can use and build with all of the original's AI/Memories/Personality to achieve whatever goal she has, therefore, as long as Cyn is around, so will the Disassembly Drones be. When a Disassembly Drone is damaged enough that it has no material to rebuild its body, it will become a Eldritch Being controlled by AbsoluteSolver with<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Drone_Physiology#cite_note-two-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a> the only goal being to consume and collect materials to rebuild its body)

Also they still do not manage to kill the solver by the end of the series. It still resides within Uzi.

"Singularity" can be means also
"the quality of being strange"
Or
"an event that some people believe will happen in the future when technology becomes much more intelligent than humans"
Don't need to be 4-D lol. Also this means it doesn't not independently from human world.

 

[Thelastmlg]

I disagree on the information stuff as others said, it isn't accepted and the universe being made of it does not mean every wound and healing works on that level, otherwise every regeneration feat would be high godly because universes have histories bare minimum

Type 1 immortality needs statements or at least no sign of aging over long periods of time, otherwise it is just longevity, machines can still wear down with time, if at any point they hint at being able to operate forever is fine

Type 4 requires you to ressurect on either the same body or a new one on the spot, if they need to upload their lives into existing bodies then it is type 6, doesn't really change anything besides the number used

Type 5 is redudant frankly, like there is no issue in giving the program it but it is usually for sentient beings that are deathless, i don't recall either the absolute solver is considered sentient or not but i'm not against this

Type 9 requires them to be outside the universe or at least in another plane of existence, if they are inside of it, even if they can't be interact with normally, they wouldn't have it, tbh i find this type redudant too but oh well

And why do the drones need those immortalities, is it in the another thread or something i'm missing?

Rest of abilities is fine, EE needs evidence and frankly the scene looked like she was being crushed rather than shrunk, so it should all be size manip, and dura neg is fine too since she can target specific vital parts like heads

The panel there has a symbol of a satellite as well as stuff like altitude, latitude and longitude, i'm pretty sure the speed is referring to the sattelite's, unless another context shows otherwise

Not gonna touch the rest of the stats lol

 

[RealDuker98]

Type 1 immortality needs statements or at least no sign of aging over long periods of time, otherwise it is just longevity, machines can still wear down with time, if at any point they hint at being able to operate forever is fine

I don't see how the Absolute Solver, a program, whose true form exists as a black hole, die from illness.

Type 5 is redudant frankly, like there is no issue in giving the program it but it is usually for sentient beings that are deathless, i don't recall either the absolute solver is considered sentient or not but i'm not against this

Sentient: "able to perceive or feel things."
Cyn/AS: "I see. You will not talk to me because I have hurt... your feelings".

 

[RealDuker98]

Bump

 

[RealDuker98]

Bump

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

I don't see how the Absolute Solver, a program, whose true form exists as a black hole, die from illness

Tbh black hole of the sized of sun have a lifespan of 2*10^67, so saying it is a black hole isn't the same to say it will last for ever

Size Manipulation with Potential Durability Negation/Existence Erasure: Scaling off Doll who could use the scale symbol to shrink this worker drone to the point she doesn't exist. Uzi did the same with Brandon's head. However, I don't know if this is dura neg or EE.

I don't think that is Dura neg or existence erasure, Tatsumaki did something similar to evil eye and yet she not have it, it was her raw ap, she only have limited dura neg for different reason than crush things from outside, Doll (or any solver user) should crush thing inside out

The High-godly was discussed and yeah, that isn't how it works

 

[RealDuker98]

I don't think that is Dura neg or existence erasure, Tatsumaki did something similar to evil eye and yet she not have it, it was her raw ap, she only have limited dura neg for different reason than crush things from outside, Doll (or any solver user) should crush thing inside out

Sure but Uzi quite literally made Bradon's head disappear via the scale.