Murder Drones: NULL The Downplay

[Psychomaster35]

For the longest time since this thread, Murder Drones had been downgraded to Unknown over its 5-B rating (From Uzi withstanding Copper 9's second core collapse from the epicenter) being invalid for having the wrong timeframe despite how we've had other feats near this level that the Drones have survived. That said, I ended up doing a recalculation (See bottom) of Uzi's core collapse survival feat with an adjusted timeframe and the result got to 701.42631863936321679 zettatons of TNT. Keep in mind that this feat was accepted previously and was only removed due to the calculation being wrong. As a bonus, given how Uzi fused with Cyn at the end of the series, her fused key should get a 4-B rating via Cyn's abilities as that's what she's rated as.

Speedwise, we have this accepted calculation of N flying up to Uzi which is Supersonic+, so that should be everyone's new speed rating instead of it being an unknown tier. I'm confident that they're higher than that, but for now, this speed rating should do.

EDIT (2/24/2026): I just recently got this calc accepted that would actually make everyone 101x Massively FTL instead, which is basically the landing pod dodging feat done by that random Worker Drone at the end of Episode 3, but this time actually getting his speed based on how much distance he moved in tandem with the landing pod's speed (Which the downgrade thread stated that nobody scales to its full speed). Given how the feat was done by a random Worker Drone who doesn't seem very combat oriented, the more combat oriented characters like Uzi and the Disassembly Drones would likely upscale from this.

TL;DR Everyone becomes 5-B and Supersonic+ Massively FTL from accepted calculations, and Uzi's end-of-series fused form gets a 4-B rating by virtue of possessing Cyn's abilities.

 

[ShionAH]

Holy shit we are getting Hazbin Hotel vs Murder Drones

 

[LoudestProcedure]

Agree

 

[AyOgUyS]

agree for now but am not a expert on the verse

 

[Masonic9+2]

Agree

 

[Soul80]

Agree

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

OP looks good.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Heavily agree. The downgrades were way too much and felt sorta agendaish.

 

[Kirua29]

For the longest time since this thread, Murder Drones had been downgraded to Unknown over its 5-B rating (From Uzi withstanding Copper 9's second core collapse from the epicenter) being invalid for having the wrong timeframe despite how we've had other feats near this level that the Drones have survived. That said, I ended up doing a recalculation (See bottom) of Uzi's core collapse survival feat with an adjusted timeframe and the result got to 701.42631863936321679 zettatons of TNT. Keep in mind that this feat was accepted previously and was only removed due to the calculation being wrong. As a bonus, given how Uzi fused with Cyn at the end of the series, her fused key should get a 4-B rating via Cyn's abilities as that's what she's rated as.

Speedwise, we have this accepted calculation of N flying up to Uzi which is Supersonic+, so that should be everyone's new speed rating instead of it being an unknown tier. I'm confident that they're higher than that, but for now, this speed rating should do.

TL;DR Everyone becomes 5-B and Supersonic+ from accepted calculations, and Uzi's end-of-series fused form gets a 4-B rating by virtue of possessing Cyn's abilities.

Agree,

I also made several calculations and recalculated the first explosion of cooper9 at multicontainent and calculated that nori and yeva received a quantity of country level energy awaiting confirmation.

 

[Niko]

I'd take it. W post.

 

[Niko]

I just read the speed part. </3
We be forgetting how J dodged light in the show huh

 

[IDK3465]

Not too knowledgeable about the verse (I should really get around to watching the rest of the series at some point), but given the sole thing keeping the cast at 9-A was just needing a simple recalc, I agree with it, along with the other junk (btw, will the Supersonic+ calc only apply to N's flight speed, or will it scale to combat/reactions? Again, haven't finished watching the series so I legit don't know)

 

[Psychomaster35]

btw, will the Supersonic+ calc only apply to N's flight speed, or will it scale to combat/reactions? Again, haven't finished watching the series so I legit don't know

Yeah, it should scale to everyone

 

[IDK3465]

Yeah, it should scale to everyone

Is there a reason for that being the case? Like, is N capable of dodging stuff while flying at full speed? Do other characters intercept him? Etc. (It's been a while since I've watched any MD content, so I'd just like some clarification to jog my memory.)

 

[Gewsbumpz_dude]

Seems good to me

 

[Mythic381]

Holy shit we are getting Hazbin Hotel vs Murder Drones

Totally surviving against their hax...

Anyways, yeah agree.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Is there a reason for that being the case? Like, is N capable of dodging stuff while flying at full speed? Do other characters intercept him? Etc. (It's been a while since I've watched any MD content, so I'd just like some clarification to jog my memory.)

Yeah, they've reacted to his flight speed, so it scales to everyone.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good to me.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Well, that's already enough staff to get this accepted. All that needs to be done now is wait 39 hours to apply this.

 

[Kirua29]

Well, that's already enough staff to get this accepted. All that needs to be done now is wait 39 hours to apply this.

Wow, thats was fast

 

[Thunderman101]

dude got staff votes in less than 2 days

 

[God_of_perversion]

I agree with the tread but i have a question,if the calc had a wrong time frame then why was it removed instead of recalced is the first place?it just looks like the entire scale of the verse was nuked for no reason
Edit:and the verse had other acepted calcs too? How did this even happen

 

[Mythic381]

I agree with the tread but i have a question,if the calc had a wrong time frame then why was it removed instead of recalced is the first place?it just looks like the entire scale of the verse was nuked for no reason
Edit:and the verse had other acepted calcs too? How did this even happen

It was removed until a new calculation comes.

For the other ones, I'm pretty sure the other physical stats calculations were removed in this thread, with others either being Solver calculations or not accepted.

 

[Psychomaster35]

I agree with the tread but i have a question,if the calc had a wrong time frame then why was it removed instead of recalced is the first place?it just looks like the entire scale of the verse was nuked for no reason
Edit:and the verse had other acepted calcs too? How did this even happen

Apparently, they "didn't want to keep it any longer" and downgraded it to Unknown, which to me is just very stupid when the feat was still legit.

As for the other speed feats removed, while I see that they had a point on no one scaling to the full speed of the Disassembly Drones' landing pod (Which I've seen many other people agree), they called the regular drone from the end of episode 3 dodging it an outlier when they don't have many anti-feats in speed. If anything, I could go calculate that later since that Drone was moving much slower than the crashing pod itself.

 

[AppleMaker]

Agree. It's better to have slightly Downplayed/Wanked verse, than have it's feats completely disregarded and replaced by some random bs

 

[Psychomaster35]

Okay, so remember when I said that I was confident they are faster than Supersonic+? Well, I just got a calc accepted that's actually a more reliable way for them to be Massively FTL. So now, instead of the Supersonic+ rating, I'm now proposing the Massively FTL rating since the calc has been accepted, especially given how the feat was done by a random Worker Drone who doesn't seem to be a fighter which would mean that the more combat oriented characters would likely upscale from this feat.

 

[IDK3465]

Okay, so remember when I said that I was confident they are faster than Supersonic+? Well, I just got a calc accepted that's actually a more reliable way for them to be Massively FTL. So now, instead of the Supersonic+ rating, I'm now proposing the Massively FTL rating since the calc has been accepted, especially given how the feat was done by a random Worker Drone who doesn't seem to be a fighter which would mean that the more combat oriented characters would likely upscale from this feat.

Wasn't there a major anti-feat for FTL and above speed mentioned in the downgrade thread regarding the Anti-Drone Sentinels?

 

[LoubHuntered]

Okay, so remember when I said that I was confident they are faster than Supersonic+? Well, I just got a calc accepted that's actually a more reliable way for them to be Massively FTL. So now, instead of the Supersonic+ rating, I'm now proposing the Massively FTL rating since the calc has been accepted, especially given how the feat was done by a random Worker Drone who doesn't seem to be a fighter which would mean that the more combat oriented characters would likely upscale from this feat.

a)The landing pod is alreayde there in the pilot.

B)Why do you assume it's going at maximum speed?

 

[Kirua29]

Wasn't there a major anti-feat for FTL and above speed mentioned in the downgrade thread regarding the Anti-Drone Sentinels?

In case this anti-feat is wrong, if you look at it frame by frame, the murder drones dodge the sentinels' flashes after they've launched their flashes; it could be a calculable feat. No one's actually done it yet, but I'm thinking of doing it to dispel this misconception that it's an anti-feat.

Evidence Here

 

[Soul80]

Okay, so remember when I said that I was confident they are faster than Supersonic+? Well, I just got a calc accepted that's actually a more reliable way for them to be Massively FTL. So now, instead of the Supersonic+ rating, I'm now proposing the Massively FTL rating since the calc has been accepted, especially given how the feat was done by a random Worker Drone who doesn't seem to be a fighter which would mean that the more combat oriented characters would likely upscale from this feat.

Damn, we can't stop winning

 

[Psychomaster35]

Wasn't there a major anti-feat for FTL and above speed mentioned in the downgrade thread?

The arguments do not seem to be good as it's them either being caught off guard with that their purpose is or they were being hit by AoE that made it so they could never dodge it.

a)The landing pod is alreayde there in the pilot.

Retconned. Like, straight up. This was when they were still developing plot points, and if the pod really was just sitting outside of the atmosphere, then why did Cyn choose to wait instead of striking now with her plan?

B)Why do you assume it's going at maximum speed?

The pod was crashlanding. It had no way to slow down at all.

 

[Kirua29]

a)The landing pod is alreayde there in the pilot.

B)Why do you assume it's going at maximum speed?

a) At most, it just means it's even faster than a week, so it's not a counter-argument, quite the opposite.

b) N himself says in the pilot episode that they don't know how to land, and in episode 1, when N crashes, the pod lands straight, deploys its docking clips, but is still broken. Therefore, the problem doesn't stem from a lack of skill on the part of the pilot, such as not deploying the docking clips or not generating the landing correctly. It's simply that the pod was going too fast, and if it was going too fast, it means it didn't know how to brake. So when N says they don't know how to land, it means the missing step in a landing is braking; therefore, it was at full speed.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Anyways...

@Maverick_Zero_X @DarkDragonMedeus Thoughts on the new speed proposal I just made thanks to a certain calc of mine being recently accepted?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Anyways...

@Maverick_Zero_X @DarkDragonMedeus Thoughts on the new speed proposal I just made thanks to a certain calc of mine being recently accepted?

Sounds good.

 

[IDK3465]

The arguments do not seem to be good as it's them either being caught off guard with that their purpose is or they were being hit by AoE that made it so they could never dodge it.

I'm still a bit iffy on giving characters MFTL+ reactions despite them explicitly being weak to a light-based attack and being incapable of dodging it without relying on tells, but I'm not staff so whatever they say

 

[Kirua29]

I'm still a bit iffy on giving characters MFTL+ reactions despite them explicitly being weak to a light-based attack and being incapable of dodging it without relying on tells, but I'm not staff so whatever they say

In case this anti-feat is wrong, if you look at it frame by frame, the murder drones dodge the sentinels' flashes after they've launched their flashes; it could be a calculable feat. No one's actually done it yet, but I'm thinking of doing it to dispel this misconception that it's an anti-feat.

Evidence Here

Basically: we know what sentinels flashes working on drones only if it will catch their vision, but it didn't worked on them because they blocked it before flash light reached them

 

[IDK3465]

Basically: we know what sentinels flashes working on drones only if it will catch their vision, but it didn't worked on them because they blocked it before flash light reached them

I know you mean well here, and I don't want to be rude by saying this, but in the first feat, N and Uzi literally only started to move AFTER the flash of light, and before that the light was absolutely in their line of sight, so clearly they can handle being hit by it for long enough periods for them to cover their eyes after the fact without needing to actively dodge it.

 

[Kirua29]

I know you mean well here, and I don't want to be rude by saying this, but in the first feat, N and Uzi literally only started to move AFTER the flash of light, and before that the light was absolutely in their line of sight, so clearly they can handle being hit by it for long enough periods for them to cover their eyes after the fact without needing to actively dodge it.

When N was caught off guard by the sentry while he was with Tessa and the sentry flashed him, he was immediately paralyzed, so no, that's not the case; the fact that he reacted afterwards is simply proof of their respective speeds. And don't worry, I won't take it badly, I'm on vsbw to debate.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Okay, so remember when I said that I was confident they are faster than Supersonic+? Well, I just got a calc accepted that's actually a more reliable way for them to be Massively FTL. So now, instead of the Supersonic+ rating, I'm now proposing the Massively FTL rating since the calc has been accepted, especially given how the feat was done by a random Worker Drone who doesn't seem to be a fighter which would mean that the more combat oriented characters would likely upscale from this feat.

Seems fine.

 

[IDK3465]

When N was caught off guard by the sentry while he was with Tessa and the sentry flashed him, he was immediately paralyzed, so no, that's not the case; the fact that he reacted afterwards is simply proof of their respective speeds. And don't worry, I won't take it badly, I'm on vsbw to debate.

Actually, looking back at the feat, although N and Uzi didn't physically move out of the way, because of the camera angle not showing us their faces, they still could have simply closed their "eyes" before the light hit them, so I suppose it isn't impossible for them to have needed to react to the light beforehand, thus making both it and the second feat valid.
Huh, I actually kinda changed my mind now, f*ck it, MFTL+ it is then.