Objective Alice CRT

[Churronzon]

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Avatar Creation & Immortality (Type 9; A shadow from another world is brought in when appearing and is thus stated that defeating her won't affect the original form)

Abstract Existence (Type 1; She is an aggregation of the absurd and the girl and the absurd can affect each other and thus causing absurd situations makes Alice appear. Similarly, using logic to dictate one's actions would cause the absurdity and Alice to disperse. She stands at the center of the absurd which is sometimes referred to by the name Objective Alice. She symbolizes the absurd, and is referred to as the absurd itself that people sought to capture and the guide for all storylines. Is referred to as a black hole to the core structures of the world. One avatar of the absurd can also crush another avatar of the absurd and doesn't affect Alice at all since she's the culmination of the absurd to begin with)

Inorganic Physiology for avatars: (Type 2; Is made out of paper reports or film reels. Lacks a life that can be killed)

Existence Erasure (Can erase people from history)

Power Bestowal (She is the source of the Absurdities and can thus grant others the ability to manipulate time and continuity by roleplaying select characters in storylines and can grant people the ability to rule the world if she accepts them)

Minor Law Manipulation (Infinitely distorts any and all physical laws)

Agree:
Disagree: DontTalkDT (mostly)
Neutral:

 

[Churronzon]

bump

 

[Churronzon]

Wrong Alice

This is from another Kamachi series for a third Alice

 

[Churronzon]

bump

 

[Greatsage13th]

Hmm

 

[DontTalkDT]

Mostly disagree.

Avatar Creation is Hel's power creating a duplicate. Has nothing to do with Alice's power.

Asbtract Existence is too vague. As it says, she symbolizes the absurd, might be the core of the absurd as a power system, but that doesn't mean she exists as an intangible principle.

For inorganic physiology: She transforms into papers when "killed", yes. That her body was only ever composed of those is speculation.

Th existence erasure is just a manner of speech. "Erase from historyy" typically means to be killed and have the records about you destroyed. No reason this would literally mean to alter the past.

Power Bestowal is probably fine.

Should be minor Law Manipulation, as she hasn't demonstrated a real practical application to point to.

 

[Churronzon]

Avatar Creation is Hel's power creating a duplicate. Has nothing to do with Alice's power.

I wasn't aware of that. Do you have a citation? Is that true for all the characters she brought in? Why was it made notable and mentioned only for Alice when she was one of the last ones to be summoned?
Edit: Nvm I see how you got this since Hel's black tree summoned copies of dead characters. Yeah I agree with you. Tangentially, I love how it's mentioned speaking of the absurd possibility of Karen having returned could call in Objective Alice.

The bunny girl was not there, which was not surprising given what had happened in the past, but…

“It’s kind of hard to accept that she really isn’t here.”

“Hey, stop that. Even speaking of that kind of possibility can call in the Absurd.”

“Yeah, but it really wouldn’t surprise me to find out she’d made a secret comeback somewhere.”

“And I’m telling you that mentioning that is going to make this a preview of things to come!!”

Asbtract Existence is too vague. As it says, she symbolizes the absurd, might be the core of the absurd as a power system, but that doesn't mean she exists as an intangible principle.

alright

For inorganic physiology: She transforms into papers when "killed", yes. That her body was only ever composed of those is speculation.

So would it be shapeshifting?

Th existence erasure is just a manner of speech. "Erase from historyy" typically means to be killed and have the records about you destroyed. No reason this would literally mean to alter the past.

Would you agree that a lesser Absurdity altered the past?

“You still don’t get it? The mechanical malfunctions that saved those nine from death were most likely brought on by the character you have been given. However, when did you acquire that character? As the dealer, I gained the Unbeatable Emperor only after sacrificing those nine to guide in the absurd. Your Ever-Victorious Challenger must be the same. …And yet your power saved those nine. You saved them using the character you obtained from their deaths. What can you call that if not a contradiction? This is a power that can ignore time and continuity, so how are normal weapons like knives and bombs supposed to decide our victory?”

Disappear from history isn't the only line. What do you make of the analogy Kamachi gave for elaboration: "We will be like a side character eliminated in the changes made to history with a time machine."

Should be minor Law Manipulation, as she hasn't demonstrated a real practical application to point to.

ok