One Piece: Ichiji Ability Aditions

[Kachon123]

Ichiji should get Danmaku, Heat Manipulation, and Durability Negation added to his Sparking Valkyrie Justification (scan here). We see the Charlotte Siblings, including Oven, being effortlessly penetrated without any apparent external damage, while also witnessing Oven being burnt by the attack. Its intensity is demonstrated by the multitude of lasers, numbering at least thirty in the scan linked, and this is only a fraction of the total barrage, as Ichiji dashed ahead of the lasers.

It will look like this:
Energy Projection, Light Manipulation, Danmaku, Durability Negation, Heat Manipulation (with Sparking Valkyrie)

 

[Sus]

bro is plotting

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Following.

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

I assume this would also need to be included in Queen’s P&A, by virtue of him having the same ability?

 

[Kachon123]

I assume this would also need to be included in Queen’s P&A, by virtue of him having the same ability?

Naturally, yes.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I assume this would also need to be included in Queen’s P&A, by virtue of him having the same ability?

This is why he's doing this in the first place lol.

 

[Kachon123]

This is why he's doing this in the first place lol.

Found it when looking through Vinsmoke abilities (also while doing a little side project )

 

[Sus]

bro is plotting

knew it first glance

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Queen stocks are rising .

But yeah this seems pretty straightforward imo, definitely agree with the revisions.

 

[SlendVeny]

I agree, but Niji is still better.

 

[Kachon123]

Niji is still better.

Factual

 

[Darkvie123]

I thought he already has those in his profile lol

 

[Fireld]

Factual

Shocker

We see the Charlotte Siblings, including Oven, being effortlessly penetrated without any apparent external damage, while also witnessing Oven being burnt by the attack.

Wouldn't Oven burns and the beams ripping off clothes/armor count as external damage? If I'm understanding this correctly your giving this attack dura neg not cuz it vaporizes stuff that stands in its way like the Pacifista lasers but cuz it can phase thru obsticals burning them both in & out like the Kanzebo or Ace's trick with the spears?

 

[Kachon123]

If I'm understanding this correctly your giving this attack dura neg not cuz it vaporizes stuff that stands in its way like the Pacifista lasers but cuz it can phase thru obsticals burning them both in & out like the Kanzebo or Ace's trick with the spears?

Yes.

 

[Eseseso]

All 3 of the Vinsmoke brothers suck, but OP seems fine.

 

[SlendVeny]

All 3 of the Vinsmoke brothers suck, but OP seems fine.

You take that back right now.

 

[Sus]

reiju and sanji are the only ones i dont see as "npc power ranger"

anyway i agree

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Shocker

Wouldn't Oven burns and the beams ripping off clothes/armor count as external damage? If I'm understanding this correctly your giving this attack dura neg not cuz it vaporizes stuff that stands in its way like the Pacifista lasers but cuz it can phase thru obsticals burning them both in & out like the Kanzebo or Ace's trick with the spears?

Fair point, I'm kind of neutral on this.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Seems fine at a glance.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Dis fine

 

[Kachon123]

Yes! Thank you everyone who helped out here. I'll be adding this whenever I have more time

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Shocker

Wouldn't Oven burns and the beams ripping off clothes/armor count as external damage? If I'm understanding this correctly your giving this attack dura neg not cuz it vaporizes stuff that stands in its way like the Pacifista lasers but cuz it can phase thru obsticals burning them both in & out like the Kanzebo or Ace's trick with the spears?

What about this though

 

[Kachon123]

What about this though

What about it?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Never mind

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Changed my mind, everything but Durability Negation is fine

We clearly see external damage on the people

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Noice.
What Mitch said.

 

[Ped2018]

Changed my mind

 

[Kachon123]

Changed my mind, everything but Durability Negation is fine

We clearly see external damage on the people

That's not the point.

We see it phase through the target, burning inside and out like Kazenbo and Ace's spears do.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

That's not the point.

We see it phase through the target, burning inside and out like Kazenbo and Ace's spears do.

It blows a hole through it's opponents, that's not negating durability, that's just surpassing their durability with AP

 

[Ped2018]

It blows a hole through it's opponents, that's not negating durability, that's just surpassing their durability with AP

Huh?! But we have a bunch of characters that have dura neg because of heat based abilities, no?

 

[Kachon123]

It blows a hole through it's opponents

We clearly see that there is no hole there.

It's no different than what Ace did here with St. Elmo's Fire:



Which we give him durability negation for.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

His clothes clearly rip here.

 

[Ped2018]

His clothes clearly rip here.

I fail to see how that's relevent, an attack can be dura neg and still have AP

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Because iirc the argument for it being dura neg is that it phased through it or something.

 

[Ped2018]

Because iirc the argument for it being dura neg is that it phased through it or something.

Oh, ok

 

[Kachon123]

Because iirc the argument for it being dura neg is that it phased through it or something.

What?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

What?

being effortlessly penetrated without any apparent external damage,

You're deeming this as dura neg but one:
If it's penetrated, this means it was externally damaged.
Like Kinemon putting a knife in Kaidou's head.. That's penetration but not dura neg.
We see Oven's clothes being effected by this attack as well, and he has a hole on him.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Still have to disagree with this being Durability Negation

TBH I never even agreed with Red Hawk and Ace's Fire as being Durability Negation

Just because you can burn someone's insides by throwing fire attacks through them does not mean you negate their durability...

 

[Kachon123]

We see Oven's clothes being effected

Because it still is a heat-based attack?

and he has a hole on him.

No he doesn't.

 

[Ped2018]

does not mean you negate their durability...

It does... like you said

you can burn someone's insides by throwing fire attacks