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I just feel like it's a lot clearer that the meteor's destruction covered the entire region, especially with supporting statements about the 'surrounding towns' from Genos, and the very omnidirectional nature of a meteor strike.
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One-Punch Man: New City Sizes
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Well yes, that's for Z-City. I was asking for A-City and Lord Boros' ship destruction. We see the outskirts of the region and the destruction reached all the way there.
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When do we see the outskirts exactly?
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I see. I'm rereading some of the chapters now but I'm currently away from my PC so can't write a full response. I promise I'll leave a re-evaluation later tonight or tomorrow morning.
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I'm not sure if that panel really shows enough. It seems like the angle hides a lot.
Also, is this from a newer chapter? I think I'm a little behind.
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So looking at it I think I was right but we run into a different issue now
- The map does line up with City-M's coast line
- The Map used by the OP shows directly that Region M and N are located directly next to City-A
- The same map shows Region-H is next to Region-N
- Boros' ship does not notable drift from its location
Overall I do not believe the evidence provided indicates that Region-A was nuked completely. If anything it would be a large spherical area around the eastern portion of Region-A, the northern portion of Region-M and the southern portion of Region-N were damaged by the volley. So I'm still against the current calc assumptions and I'm not sure how you'd be able to even calc it since the targeted area probably looks like this which can be accomplished with the current assumptions with the ship's height.
It's chapter 178-180. It's pre-Ninjas and from the Tornado fight, though that was like three years ago now with all the redraw delays.
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I would disagree with this because when Saitama walked from his old home to the New Hero Association HQ, there was massive destruction the entire way, not just close to the headquarters.
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To add onto this, something I've noticed:
There are multiple pieces of evidence showing that the Hero Association headquarters is not terribly far away from N-City. Certainly not 1500 km away as the current City & Regions sizes calc would suggest.
1) We see a family driving by car in the city, seeing a road sign towards A-City and the Hero Association HQ. Within a brief span of time they are able to see the HQ in the distance.
2) We see Saitama and Tatsumaki crash-landing onto the ground, not far away from the Hero Association HQ and yet still within sight of the city in the distance.
3) Their proximity to the city is seen again this scene.
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I don't agree with this stance, because in Chapter 170 when he's walking to City-A it cuts out the entire travel until the city is within his visual distance. We did not see the entire journey, but just the journey until he was outside the City. So this line doesn't work unless we would've seen him go from City-Z to City-B to City-A.
With the evidence Damage shows I think the narrative all points to City-A not being in the center of Region-A, which is what the calc is basing its logic on.
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Alright, then I do know what's going on. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some context, since I didn't remember this exact panel.
Anyway, I don't really see this panel as sufficiently establishing the entire region being barren. As I said, it's at a particular angle (and not, like, an aerial shot of the entire thing).
In addition to all the other concerns Qaw brought up, I'll probably stick to voting for not assuming the entire region for the Boros's Ship calculation.
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I think that's enough votes to probably reject that part of the proposal, unless additional staff are going to be called in.
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This is what we get for the targeted area. It is much different than the circle you made on your image.
Additionally, it wouldn't make sense if the entire region wasn't nuked as Sitch and every other Hero Association staff immediately believed it was Shibabawa's prophecy. If it was just that urban area, this would make sense, especially when just a few days earlier the entire meteor stuff happened. The destruction of A-City is portrayed as much larger than a potential Z-City destruction.
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anyway no in my opinion the serious punch goes well with the map if it starts from the south towards the north east of the map where there is also another piece of continent
it's practically in the center of the map and the point also features a point quite identical to the one we see in the manga
in any case, wherever you take it from, the punch comes from the center of the continent, it wouldn't make any sense if it were the other way around and the entire structure of the heroes association wouldn't make sense if it were decentralized to the center of the supercontinent
I downloaded that app just for this...hahahaha I'll delete it soon because it's taking up space
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What if the entire OPM earth is just really small compared to ours, given it’s weird past.
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None of the explained things in the series "World wars, pollution etc" would make the globe smaller. Also the moon is still there, which we know humanity didn't do anything to it like that.
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All the continents have dissapeared and replaced with a super continent and some weird shrine looking island on the other side of the planet.
Boros’ ship is canonically 15km by 29km and it covered a decent portion of city A.
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Minor Bump.
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If nothing else happens for a while, I think we can say this has been accepted for the City Z changes, but not for the City A changes. If the situation remains unchanged by next week, then that's that.
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Waiting for Qaws' thoughts on this.
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You can calc the size of the inner circle if you want, but even that map doesn't show the entire region being one shot.
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I don't think there is much left to speak, at least rn. It would be different if we were to see City A's destruction in any way from other cities like City-B or City-Y as it would mean it's the destruction of the entire region considering their location.
Though it does make sense for it to be the region rather than the town.
Sitch thought it was the prophecy which wouldn't make sense as destruction of the "town" itself is only "Demon" level. Even the Meteor which would destroy the City-Z completely is "Dragon level" as it wasn't just destroying the town alone.
The destruction of the City-A is accepted as an big historic event, an "event that shook history", which doesn't make sense if it's not the region as City-B and City-D (both town) had been destroyed in the early chapters already.
Even later in the series, Monster Association arc, people believe the prophecy meant the ship, Which is important here since Shibabawa, the one who telled the fortune, says "The greatest catastrophe of our time is near" which means it would be above the Giant Meteor regardless.
So it should scale above the Meteor, though i do believe it is the destruction of the entire City-A regardless.
Though it does make sense for it to be the region rather than the town.
Sitch thought it was the prophecy which wouldn't make sense as destruction of the "town" itself is only "Demon" level. Even the Meteor which would destroy the City-Z completely is "Dragon level" as it wasn't just destroying the town alone.
The destruction of the City-A is accepted as an big historic event, an "event that shook history", which doesn't make sense if it's not the region as City-B and City-D (both town) had been destroyed in the early chapters already.
Even later in the series, Monster Association arc, people believe the prophecy meant the ship, Which is important here since Shibabawa, the one who telled the fortune, says "The greatest catastrophe of our time is near" which means it would be above the Giant Meteor regardless.
So it should scale above the Meteor, though i do believe it is the destruction of the entire City-A regardless.
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Sure, I'll do that and we can move forward and close this thread.
Sorry for the late reply, had a lot of meetings yesterday and today.
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I have some more thoughts on this City A proposal, but I'll wait till the OP is updated and ready to be re-evaluated.
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Could you give your thoughts before I update it? I'd rather not go through all of that work without knowing if there are issues I should address first.
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say if you can
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I'll try to post tonight, if not tomorrow.
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Currently writing my analysis, but in the meantime did you have any thoughts on what I posted here?
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We know for a fact that the closest city is far beyond the horizon thanks to over a handful of shots from every angle.
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Incredibly inconsistent(consistent for that chapter though) to the point it makes it look like some cities are getting closer to it.
There is absolutely nothing around Hero HQ, at least there wasn't any building visible etc considering many chapters. Then we have these from one of the latest chapter. Is this like a kilometer distance difference? They just started to appear, the buildings seem new (also somewhat uncomplete?) as well.
Not to mention, it's close to the point it doesn't make any sense as even ignoring the many pages where we don't see buildings hundreds of kilometers away, the destruction distance from Boros fight is many times higher.
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