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Sorry, just been a bit busy. I don't think I've got any fresh objections for the moment unless there's going to be a re-calc.
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One-Punch Man: New City Sizes
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So just the Z-City changes will be implemented. Let me know when it's applied and this can be closed.
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You did the big circle, not the inner circle. The big circle bleeds into different regions and threatens other cities in the same bombardment. The inner circle has the warnings flags and is seemingly what the 99.8% figure is based on.
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Just because you update a calc doesn't mean it's automatically accepted though.
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What inner circle?
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He means the red point at the center of the circle.
Though both circles just shows the location of the thread + danger signal, no? It's a disaster alert.
The destruction is shown with red color, filling the entire region. aka %99.8 destruction.
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Yeah, that's not a circle, that's just a symbol that likely represents the point of impact (where the ship/Hero Association HQ is).He means the red point at the center of the circle.
Though both circles just shows the location of the thread + danger signal, no? It's a disaster alert.
The destruction is shown with red color, filling the entire region. aka %99.8 destruction.
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It a seperate zone to the rest from what I see.
I think my overall stance is still unchanged. I think City-Z's one is fine and I don't agree with City A being scaled like it is.
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This just clearly is not the case.
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It has to be. Look at the top right of the red area. An entire city is located within it, and the zone clips multiple other city locations on the map. If it is realistic then the barrage should've destroyed multiple cities and not just one.
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It's not. If you're talking about the thing inside the "bigger circle", it's the logo of HQ base. It changes it's color to red when there is an attack.
Those warning flags just show the location of the attack.
An example for both would be when Spring Mustachio and Golden Ball were attacked by a monster.
But here, The destruction is shown to be the entire region, the whole region being red.
Kachon is also wrong since it's not about that circle at all
Even then, isn't it fine to make it scale to the Meteor?
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I think it's fine, but before it's accepted, I would want to see how'd you'd word the page for Boros' ship scaling-wise. Since you'd have to do a decent amount of summarization.
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Those aren't strong reasons for it to scale directly to the meteor, I believe;
The meteor is a one-off event. A spaceship flying overhead able to repeatedly launch attacks of that magnitude over and over again is a far greater threat than a single meteor even if the meteor is more powerful than a single barrage from the spaceship.
The meteor also never actually landed intact thanks to Saitama partially destroying it, so perhaps if it did land as originally envisioned then it too would be an "event that would shake history".
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While a meteor is a one time thing, that isn't necessarily a big thing here since they regard it as the same way they treat other disasters.
Not to mention, Sitch thought it was the prophecy the moment he learned City-A was %99.8 destroyed. He didn't even know if there was a ship or anything. He says it based on the destructiveness. It should still apply here
That one was actually an argument for it being region, i didn't edit the post
Though even then, it wasn't really treated as that of a big deal as well. The treatment that Meteor got isn't comparable to the prophecy, which is regarded as the biggest danger of their time.
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Stitch was panicking; the amount of destruction was witnessing was unprecedented, sure, but as I said the meteor never ended up causing the amount of destruction that is was supposed to anyway. He wasn't making a reliable evaluation like "Let me just check off the destruction in joules that every previous threat could unleash and see how this stacks up against it. Okay, this one is bigger."
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It didn't destroy anything, yes. But they did know how powerful it was. They knew it'd destroy the entire Z-City. He would know it as well (or he's bad at his job :d)
Even then, the ship is regarded by many to be "The greatest catastrophe of our time" here, which even a cautious guy like Sitch believed it to be the prophecy the moment he saw the level of destruction. He doesn't recognize it as something "dangerous" but the prophecy. Something doesn't have to cause full destruction in order for it to be the prophecy as well. It shouldn't be a problem here.
He doesn't have to say something like "oh the energy caused by this attack has more joule". He literally looks at the computer that shows him what happens which makes him believe so.
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updated the calc blog?
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For it's page, something like this would be fine i guess?
"Destroyed City-A in an instant, an event that shook history. Sitch, upon seeing the destruction it caused, believed the prophecy came true. Believed by many workers from Hero Association to be the threat from Shibabawa's prophecy that she claims to be "The greatest catastrophe of our time", Which should make it superior to the Meteor."
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it should work
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I'm not against it.
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Could you guys also give your opinion on this please?
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Bump
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BumpThis thread has been accepted, making the maps depicted in the One-Punch Man anime accurate and canon to the original manga. As a result, a few things have changed, namely the sizes of A-City and Z-City, as well as the yield of their destruction. Additionally, the size of the main supercontinent where the story takes place has also been determined. The following calc has been accepted:
One-Punch Man: Cities and Supercontinent Sizes
vsbattles.fandom.com
This also changes the yield of this calc
What this changes:
- Old Hero Association: 7-B+ -> 6-C
- Elder Centipede and those relative go from 7-A to 6-C (Majority of the Cadre, majority of the S-Class Heroes)
- Gouketsu and those relative go from 6-B to 6-B+
Okay sorry for the wait, I was a bit busyrewatching The Flash Season 1. @Qawsedf234 told me to edit the OP to add a section to argue that the destruction caused by Lord Boros' Ship and the Giant Meteor to A-City and Z-City covered the entire named regions, rather than just the main urban living area.
Starting with the Giant Meteor and Z-City, we first need to establish something. This is the map of Z-City. The big red X in the middle is exact point where the Giant Meteor struck. Keep that location in mind.
The large, abandoned neighborhood of Z-City where Saitama lives (and where the Monster Association arc took place) is categorized by its high monster activity. Because of this, all civilians moved to the center of the Z-City residential area, making the uninhabited area its own town. In the original Japanese, it is referred to as a "町", literally meaning “town”. This area is located on the coast.
When the meteor was landing, Genos stated that it would wipe out not only the Z-City residential area but also the nearby surrounding towns. "町" was also used here. From that, we know that bare minimum the residential area and the uninhabited town would have been destroyed. The explosion was omnidirectional, meaning it spread out equally in all directions from the point of impact (which we established earlier was in the center of Z-City’s residential area) to all of the towns directly around it. This is what we know would have been destroyed so far.
Lastly, Bang believed that his dojo, which is not located in any of the surrounding towns, would also have been destroyed by the meteor. The only place that these mountains could be would be in this extended landmass on the side. So in the end, we can see that the entire Z-City region would have been destroyed by the meteor.
Now for Lord Boros’ Ship and A-City. This one is a lot more simple. After Dr. Bofoi cleared away all the rubble from the ship’s bombardment, it was stated that the Hero Association Headquarters had direct roads for efficient hero deployment outside the region. What this means is that the entire region of A-City was rendered uninhabitable and completely barren except for the headquarters and the connecting roads. We know the destruction extended at least the same distance in every direction, as confirmed by multiple panels in the manga. This is important because we see Tatsumaki drag Saitama from the center of A-City all the way to N-City and back, but the path they take was still within the destroyed area created by Boros’ Ship. This means the same level of destruction applied in all directions from the impact zone
I hope the situation it will be resolved soon
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If it's not related to this thread, I wouldn't mind applying the current accepted Z-City region rating to the characters if you want?
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Is it based on the barrage of bullets being above the Meteor?
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Is the OP being updated with a new proposal?
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Okay. I've got some thoughts on that. I'll need to see exactly how this is being argued. Also, the updated calculation isn't clear on how you got the results for the individual bullets.
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There were 37 bullets counted in previous versions of the calc, which is why Lord Boros' Ship is currently
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If it was okayed with the calc group I'm good with the bullet downscaling.
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