Proposed new speed levels

[Kulf_Boba]

Hyper FTL: 1,000,000,000,000c | 31,688 light-years/s

(Characters capable of crossing trans-galactic distance in seconds)

• Traverse half of the Milky Way galaxy in 1.6 seconds
• Traversing the Milky Way in 3.33 seconds
• Traverse 1,000,000 Light Years in 31.5 seconds
• Travel through 2,500,000 Light Years in 78.8 seconds

Hyper FTL+: 10,000,000,000,000,000c | 316,880,878 light-years/s

(Characters able to travel the entire universe in seconds during their fights and/or who are able to cross the universe in minutes).

• Traverse 500,000,000 Light Years in 1.57 seconds
• Traverse half of the Universe in 2.44 Minutes
• Traverse the Universe in 4.89 minutes

I use the term "Hyper" for these levels because it is a term that denotes superiority or excess.

These new levels help to better understand the huge difference in speed between characters, as well as adding more variety to the FTL feat classification.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

I'm pretty sure you need staff permission to post threads in the staff discussion board.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

I'm pretty sure you need staff permission to post threads in the staff discussion board.

Antvasima said he could make the proposal in the staff forum.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Oh, okay then.

 

[StekFence]

It seems to make more sense than just having mftls who blitz one another harder than a Light speeder blitzes a snail.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Not a huge fan of the name. Hyper Faster Than Light sounds kinda redundant to me.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

This comment will probably get deleted since I'm not staff, but yeah, Hyper FTL is a terrible name and sounds slower than Massively FTL.

 

[StekFence]

Oh wait this is staff. Huh.

 

[StekFence]

Not a huge fan of the name. Hyper Faster Than Light sounds kinda redundant to me.

I agree

 

[N_Kardashev]

why not just take it from top strongest and have trans universal speed

Speed

Speed is how fast a character is able to move, there are 4 main types of speed which are the following: Battle/Combat speed: The speed at which a being can fight. It is a common trope in anime/manga that travel (specially running) speed and combat speed greatly vary. Reaction speed: The speed at...

topstrongest.fandom.com

 

[Kulf_Boba]

Not a huge fan of the name. Hyper Faster Than Light sounds kinda redundant to me.

Ah, that's right, in my head I was only thinking of "FTL" as the name of a speed level and not "Faster Than Light".

Although Hyper also means excessive or above normal, then Hyper FTL can also mean excessively faster than light.

 

[Vietthai96]

Why we not use light years measurement

 

[Antvasima]

As I mentioned previously, I am not against this in theory, but it would likely require far too much work to apply when we already have lots of unfinished major projects.

 

[Antvasima]

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What do you think about this?

 

[QuasiYuri]

Well, it seems a bit useless but it's not like one would have a specific reason to refuse it otherwise.

 

[KingTempest]

Outside of the ridiculous amount of searching required to go to everyone who is in a specific value of speed.

Just say MFTL++ and MFTL+++ instead of "Hyper".

 

[Damage3245]

I'm not against it in theory, but "Hyper Faster Than Light" doesn't seem to be a great term.

 

[Planck69]

Not really harmful but feels very redundant.

 

[Therefir]

I think this isn't necessary at all, characters faster than the speed of light stretch beyond infinity and adding more tiers would not solve anything since there would be always a higher value.

Also, most profiles make sure to specify at what speeds these characters are moving at.

This would most likely cause more confusion for users, who would have to read the entire Speed page to know what "Hyper FTL" even means.

 

[Elizhaa]

The terms sound confusing; the proposals seem redundant. I do agree with Therefir's points.

 

[Everything12]

So is there any reason this is needed, I know we are an indexing site but most users probably wouldn't find it any more helpful to have HFTL nor be confused by not having it.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I suppose that it is usually easy to check the linked calculated speed levels oneself.

 

[Abstractions]

This comment will probably get deleted since I'm not staff

He says with his comment still present, in a thread where other regular users had commented before him and were fine.

I use the term "Hyper" for these levels because it is a term that denotes superiority or excess.

These new levels help to better understand the huge difference in speed between characters, as well as adding more variety to the FTL feat classification.

The irony of it all being that the term itself is excessive, unnecessary, and redundant. It doesn't exactly solve the issue of how wide the tier MFTL+ is and instead creates a new tier to take its place in that regard.

I agree with Therefir that it would make more sense for characters within MFTL-MFTL+ to specify their speeds directly on the profile rather than needing an extra tier where this requirement would then be shifted to.

 

[Antvasima]

Therefir and Abstractions make a good point.

 

[Cropfist]

Why was FTL not divided like hypersonic is, with "High FTL" between the base and massively stats?

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. I think that it is a leftover from Polar-kun's days that we never considered it worth the effort to get rid of.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This sounds overtly redundant if I'm to be perfectly honest. And "Hyper FTL" and "Massively FTL" really don't sound that much different. And some opinions may argue that Massively might be a more extravagant adjective. Massively Hypersonic is above High Hypersonic which is above Hypersonic for example. So in other words, I'm pretty much against adding this as a new speed rating let alone assuming Hyper FTL being assumed the name of something above Massively FTL+.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

I don't know what terminology could be used here... "Astronomically FTL/FTL+"? "Cosmic speed"?

Definitely not "Hyper FTL", that seems unnecessary and sounds a little too weird.

 

[Shadyboi0]

Like the concept, Not the name.

 

[InfiniteDay]

I don't know what terminology could be used here... "Astronomically FTL/FTL+"? "Cosmic speed"?

Definitely not "Hyper FTL", that seems unnecessary and sounds a little too weird.

I would also prefer the name of Astronomically FTL. However, like others have said, this is also redundant, so I disagree.

 

[Theglassman12]

I share the same opinion as Abstrsctions and Therefir.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I share the same opinion as Abstrsctions and Therefir.

This.
or just add an extra Plus if you must.

 

[DragonLord]

Once you get to Massively I don’t think there’s many words that naturally progress from that. or at least ones that don’t sound a bit silly

though if a new Speed Rating were to be made. If we have High Hypersonic already one could put High FTL inbeteeen FTL and MFTL

 

[Kulf_Boba]

I think this isn't necessary at all, characters faster than the speed of light stretch beyond infinity and adding more tiers would not solve anything since there would be always a higher value.

Also, most profiles make sure to specify at what speeds these characters are moving at.

This would most likely cause more confusion for users, who would have to read the entire Speed page to know what "Hyper FTL" even means.

But most characters in the fastest fiction hover around the Hyper FTL+ level and there are a very sparse amount that are immeasurably faster than those speeds. Therefore, this level for this large number of characters that cross the universe in minutes.

There are a lot of terms in the wiki that you have to go to a specific page to understand what it means and I don't see many people confused.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

The important thing here is the concept, the name can be changed.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

The irony of it all being that the term itself is excessive, unnecessary, and redundant. It doesn't exactly solve the issue of how wide the tier MFTL+ is and instead creates a new tier to take its place in that regard.

It does not solve it, but it does add new levels appropriate to characters and feats common in fiction.

 

[Antvasima]

It seems like this suggestion is leaning towards being rejected so far.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

"Hyper FTL" is likely to be rejected, but another term could be found, like the one I suggested which InfiniteDay seems to approve.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Hard against. What we have now is fine.