resistance to sleep manipulation for goku

[HrishikeshM]

remember when jackie chun fought goku in the first tournament of db, he used hypnosis to make goku sleep but goku woke up anyway because he heard bulma say "food"

waking up from a sleep manipulation attack alone proves that the character is somewhat resistant to sleep manipulation

 

[HrishikeshM]

bump

 

[QuasiYuri]

It's litteraly just wake up, he was still affected.

 

[HrishikeshM]

that is the whole point......he did something he should have not done, he woke up even when he was under the sleep manipulation.....obviously i am not asking for immunity but this calls for a resistance

 

[QuasiYuri]

Wake up from a sleep manipulation don't give a resistance.

It's just sleep inducement, nothing implied that Goku should sleep more than usual via the hypnosis.

 

[HrishikeshM]

you are wrong

master roshi himself said that goku wont wake up until he gives the signal/order

you can find it here http://*********.com/Manga/Dragon-Ball/Chapter-049?id=260634

 

[HrishikeshM]

bump

 

[AstralKing7]

Gag or resistance to mind manipulation

 

[HrishikeshM]

bump

 

[HrishikeshM]

bump

 

[HrishikeshM]

bump

 

[HrishikeshM]

bump

 

[HrishikeshM]

bump

 

[HrishikeshM]

bump

 

[AKM sama]

I think Resistance to Sleep Manipulation should be fine. Also, Sleep Manipulation should be linked in Master Roshi 's profile instead of Status Effect Inducement. He is already listed under the users of Sleep Manipulation.

 

[Dark649]

I think Manga Goku can be sleep induced.

 

[Damage3245]

Yeah, Goku had outside assistance there to resist falling asleep.

He shouldn't have it.

 

[Dark649]

Filler Anime Z Goku has it, albeit limited. He resisted the sleep inducing foods from the Princess Snake, but a magic sleeping potion was able to do so.

 

[AKM sama]

On one hand you can say that he did fell asleep. On the other hand you can also say that Goku could hear Bulma's voice even in his sleep and woke up without any order from Roshi. I think it can be limited resistance.

 

[Desmond253]

Goku is being woken up by his love of food not by some ability to resist sleep manipulation. In a versus match there isn't going to be someone around to scream food so goku can wake up.

I agree with AKM that Roshi should be given Sleep Manipulation

 

[AKM sama]

Goku was also affected by time stop before gaining resistance. It's not different from that.

 

[Desmond253]

being resistant doesn't mean you are immune to the effects. He doesn't even resist being put to sleep.

 

[Dark649]

Goku was able to move during Hit timestop, but was affected when Hit timestopped inside the timestop.

 

[AKM sama]

being resistant doesn't mean you are immune to the effects. He doesn't even resist being put to sleep.

I didn't even say that. Obviously resistance doesn't mean immunity. I'm just saying that the argument for limited resistance is coming from the following reasons:

1. He could hear voices in his sleep which he shouldn't have heard.

2. He woke up without getting any signal from Roshi.

And obviously he was put to sleep before he woke up. But that's not the first time Goku gained resistance from something after being affected by it. He was first affected by time stop too before gaining resistance later.

 

[Damage3245]

Might be a daft question but can sleeping people not hear anything when they're asleep?

 

[Dark649]

That could be due to the saiyans enhanced senses, which Vegeta perfectly described.

 

[Desmond253]

but it was triggered by bulma how is that going to be applicable in a 1v1 fight?

 

[AKM sama]

Might be a daft question but can sleeping people not hear anything when they're asleep?

I mean, when I am sound asleep I don't even hear my alarm lol

 

[Damage3245]

Desmond does have a point. Even if Goku did wake up when he logically shouldn't, it was still caused by Bulma yelling at him.

 

[Desmond253]

When I was in highschool i would sometimes fall asleep in class, I could still hear and answer the teachers when they called on me. So it depends on the person

 

[AKM sama]

but it was triggered by bulma how is that going to be applicable in a 1v1 fight?

What goes into a profile doesn't have to be applicable in a 1v1 fight. There are several abilities which are not combat applicable. This is first an indexing site, not a vs debating site.

 

[Desmond253]

my point was we are giving a character a resistance to something that only accured because of the actions of another person

 

[AKM sama]

Triggered by another person. The action of waking up was still Goku's own action.

 

[Desmond253]

how does he preform the action without the trigger though?

 

[AKM sama]

how does he preform the action without the trigger though?

Don't know. All we know is that he can hear voices even in his sleep and can wake up if he so wills.

When Goku heard about the food, it was his will to wake up. So he did.

 

[AstralKing7]

I hear voices when I sleep and wake up when I hear them automatically

I don't think I'm resistant

 

[AKM sama]

I hear voices when I sleep and wake up when I hear them automatically
I don't think I'm resistant

Were you ever put in a sleep manipulation from which you could only have woken up if the user had desired?

 

[Desmond253]

I don't understand the logic here, we are giving goku resistance to sleep manipulation based on an action preformed by bulma during a gag. If enough people agree that it should be added then that's fine, but I would at least like to understand the logic behind the decision.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Assuming this goes through, how would this particular resistance be applicable in a Versus Thread? Or would it not?

 

[Desmond253]

it wouldn't