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exponential growth starts out slow and then gets faster over time
but it will not make him a trillion times stronger in 5 seconds
but it will not make him a trillion times stronger in 5 seconds
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Seals Lifted Kenshiro vs Parallel Timeline Saitama (KENSHIRO WON!)
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But Saitama grew so much that someone at his level that constantly copied him was completely destroyed by his strenght in a Massively FTL+ battle and even when his AD doesn't grow exopentially he is still able to oneshot himself after a day
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Saitama resists having his organs punched, not having them biologically altered via what is essentially magic
They can use ki which lets you do stuff like erase portions of existence, create poket dimensions with no gravity, manipulate matter and more
He can't become literally octillions of times stronger in the span of a fraction of a second, be real, the way exponential growth works is that it starts slow and gets PROGRESSIVELY faster, there is gonna be no progression here, Saitama has a net total of a fraction of a second at best to develop
it can activate while the user is knocked unconscious
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yeah lmao, sure Ken would get disorientated by something as mundane as that, it's not like he literally adapted to being thrown in a poket dimension without gravity before, SURELY being flipped upside down will **** with him lmao
You really have just no idea of how much of a skill monster Ken is
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He'll destroy the planet only for him to realize that the dude literally doesn't exist so he's completely uneffected by the explosion, the heat, the cold and the radiation and then die because he can't breathe in space, such a brilliant plan lol
azontr
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Yes, he can. It's on his profile.
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I know that i don't know
And again, he can breath in space. Anyway he would do that so the enemy will remain nothing forever or he will die
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Did a kid erased part of existence or panipulated matter?
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no, but they are still mastering a force that can do that. It doesn't matter because you're comparing Saitama to a literal untrained kid in HNK, the fact that there's even a debate to be had should show you that Saitama simply doesn't compare
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Then who showed to be able to manipulate matter and the other things?
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I read something about a week or something similiar, but i don't know if that's wrong or not
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Then Saitama is at that level, no?
So Saitama has to resist for 48h while Kenshiro is forced to be nothing?
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definitely not, just being able to copy supernatural stuff doesn't make you as skilled as someone else, it's just an ability, even fodder fighters in HNK have mastered hundreds of martial arts, have several types of precog, can neutralize moves etc, Saitama being able to copy shit like an energy beam doesn't matter
? "being nothing" is not incapacitation, it's a technique Ken can use, incapacitation is defined as "a state in which he can not harm the other fighter" on the wiki, which is not the case. If Saitama blows up the planet they'll just start floating until one of the two dies of starvation/fatigue
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In that state Kenshiro can do anything to Saitama and he starts floating then he will die in 53 minutes or the vacuum of space will take all the oxygen from his lungs, if i'm not wrong
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while in Musou Tensei he can do anything he can while not in musou tensei. If he even needs to breathe while in MT (which he likely doesn't, he becomes literal nothingness) then he can hold his breath for 53 minutes
You are completely ignoring the fact that Ken has literally hundreds of wincons and that Saitama would NEVER actually blow up the planet before Ken can one-shot him with any one of his insta-win abilities
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Kenshiro could honestly beat Garou and Saitama working together ngl
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fr lol, Musou Tensei is a bitch to deal with
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IF we assume he would be able to go back far enough to catch Kenshiro before he could use musou tensei
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Exactly
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I think the precog seals the deal as haxstomp.
Even if Saitama went back before Kenshiro used it he can still predog it and use it instantly.
And going before he mastered it requires assuming Saitama can go much farther back in time (Wich i'm not sure if the wiki allows, but it should absolutely be possible)
Even if Saitama went back before Kenshiro used it he can still predog it and use it instantly.
And going before he mastered it requires assuming Saitama can go much farther back in time (Wich i'm not sure if the wiki allows, but it should absolutely be possible)
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Considering Saitama's speed is racked up to 18 billion x FTL (in this wiki) (with Kenshiro at 30x ftl max) wouldn't Saitama have a massive advantage in this fight? Isn't there a possibility of Kenshiro getting blitzed without Muso Tensei activating assuming both are starting at base? Thirdly, considering Saitama broke through mental dimensions (which can't be seen by, humans), shouldn't it be more likely that he can interact with Muso Tensei considering the nature of OPM so far? It seems to me Saitama takes this bout more often than not.
And if this is a matchup with both opponents having prior knowledge Saitama's absurd speed advantage should allow him to Zero Punch ( which Ken shouldn't precog due to it being a reversal of causality), before Ken can use his own hax on Saitama, regardeless whether or not Ken has more ways of winning.
And if this is a matchup with both opponents having prior knowledge Saitama's absurd speed advantage should allow him to Zero Punch ( which Ken shouldn't precog due to it being a reversal of causality), before Ken can use his own hax on Saitama, regardeless whether or not Ken has more ways of winning.
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FoxySonicMaster108
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Pretty sure you need Void based NPI to even touch Kenshiro when he’s using Muso Tensei, which Saitama doesn’t have.
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While it is true Saitama has not yet exhibited Void Based NPI i'd say there's a higher chance than not he'll be shown to have it in the future considering what he's displayed so far regarding his NPI (instance 1 and 2). Either way, even if we say Saitama can't one punch Muso Tensei, OP wants this scenario to have both combatants to have prior knowledge and be bloodlusted, in that case Saitama should win the bout more often than not via being around 600 million times faster and thus being able to pull of the Zero Punch (disrupting cause and effect in the process) before Kenshiro can use haxes.
Just my 2 cents on this.
Just my 2 cents on this.
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