Here's the thing, Passersby:
if you're goinfng to address my stuff then quote me otherwise this is meaningless
Fiction, by definition, requires some
suspension of disbelief; that is, letting oneself appreciate a story as if it were real while knowing that it is fiction.
ok then?
and?
what does that have anything to do with what i said?
Fiction, by definition, requires some
suspension of disbelief; that is, letting oneself appreciate a story as if it were real while knowing that it is fiction. Obviously, there is no plumber in real life who can jump several times his height, who can grow taller using magical mushrooms and throw balls of fire using flowers, and who frequently fights a giant, sentient, fire-breathing turtle in order to save a princess; and yet, we can let ourselves forget about his unreality and enjoy the stories of his adventures as if they were real. Battleboarding, at its core, is about taking characters from different stories and the powers which they carry in these stories, and imagining which would win if they hypothetically met and fought. In order to do that, battleboarders employ even more suspension of disbelief than those who simply enjoy the stories, as they calculate the energy, force, and speed of the stories' events as if they occurred in real life, with real physics.
so basically this is a whole lot of nothing, i do enjoy fictional media thanks for asking, never said i didn't
However, fiction being fiction, oftentimes characters can break the real world's laws of physics: perhaps a character can move faster than light, or perhaps they can exert more work than physics would allow. Since that is such a common occurrence in fiction, we battleboarders have agreed to occasionally ignore the laws of physics in the name of facilitating our hypothetical battles: this community in particular has done that by separating work from speed, allowing faster-than-light speeds, and so forth.
and that's completely fine, never said to
not do that, i simply draw the line with hax, that's it, this feat is completely okay as a hax ability that disperses storm clouds, but as a beam with an energy output several higher than our best nuclear weapons?
**** no, it very clearly demonstrates that it doesn't interact with the physical laws or matter in a way which we can confidently state that it actually packs that ungodly ammount of energy, and the reaons are stated above
supersonic characters not making a sonic boom?
faster than mach 10 characters not compressing the air into plasma?
swordsman cutting mountains with a leaf?
creating bigger city shocwaves due to strenght even when that's purely a mechanism of speed?
sure!
completely fine, you can easily scale and quantify and accept that because it interacts with the world clearly and consistenly enough for us to scale the energy output they emulate, this feat doesn't, that's all there is to it
You argue that the feat in question is invalid because it ignores the laws of physics, dismissing it as "magical hax bullshit" (despite the fact that this community defines hax as an ability that can be used to "ignore/bypass one or more of a target's statistics, rendering them irrelevant,"
it can still exist, what i was arguing is calculating it's energy output is as useless as calculating the energy output of a spell meant to clear the weather, that beam doesn't damage the characters at all nor does it ever display what the ungodly ammount of energy this thread says it has, so it's invalid as an AP measurment when all it does is clear the weather
also that's how i describe hax, usually
"If a feat breaks the laws of physics, it cannot be used,"
never said that, that wasn't my argument
Furthermore, you argue that the rainbow that appears in the animation somehow proves that "there is no physics invcolved [sic] in any of this, it just popped out of nowhere 2"; besides the above proof of the unsoundness of the argument
...brother, your argument was have more suspension of disbleif and ignore the physics involved, you didn't exacly prove much
and yes, a literal rainbow appearing right above them for no reason actually proves without the shadow of a doubt there were no physics or known physical laws operating there, it just popped right there for no reason
this argument is also invalid, as even if the rainbow were breaking the laws of physics, it would not prove the impossibility of the cloud movement feat.
if the rainbow was due to the effect of the spell used then yes, yes it would, and the fact that there is actual white clouds literally right above them proves it 2
If you do not learn to accept the use of impossible feats in battleboarding, you will not be taken seriously by any battleboarder, including us.
that doesn't really matter,if you have no clear boundaries and definitions of what you consider as
hax and
actual physical attack that does damage then i don't think i'd take you seriously either, and i'm not trying to be a d*ck, feel free to argue and correct where i'm wrong, i'd happily concede, this is what arguing is for anyways
you can't just shove
appear to reality fallacy when faced with the slightest scrutiny to a feat just to get higher numbers
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