Some Naruto Additions

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Hi, as this is my first CRT, there should be some problems, but i've tried my best

Rock Lee

• WA lee should be 6-C, possibly Low 6-B with the Sixth Gate (Should be comparable to Might Guy). also he was able to blitz Edo Madara and cut him in half just with Kyuubi Cloak.

Anime Version for better understanding

• 6th Gate Rock Lee Should Have Relativistic speed (was faster than Juubi Jinchuriki Madara's TSB and threw Hiraishin's Kunai Faster Than Juubidara's TSB)

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Dan Kato

• Tracking/Homing Attack (He can reach his opponent's location even if he doesn't know where is his opponent's location in advance)

Spoiler: Not needed

TSB Users

• Soul Destruction (Juubito took Right Hand of Minato & Juubidara took Left Hand of Minato. Tobirama admitted that Minato can't regenerate after that [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3] and we saw that his soul had no hands because of Juubi Jins. This even applies by Deidara as he states that an Edo Tensei can continuously regenerate their physical form as long as their soul remains intact, so when Minato's soul was destroyed in hands' part, his physical Edo body stopped regeneration)

Sasori

• Resistance to Pain Manipulation (Sasori stated that he doesn't feel pain and databook applies this)
• Resistance to Empathic Manipulation (he hasn't any feelings, even if his grandmother dies he won't feel a thing)
• Inorganic Physiology (Type 1) (There are many statements that Sasori's Body isn't a Human body and it's a Puppet [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3 (even here it's stated that sasori abondoned his humanity) & Link 4 (it's stated that sasori isn't a human being)] although he has a little flesh of his human part to control his chakra, but this is nothing compared to many characters that have gained this ability like kakuzu, who has a human heart but still accepted as inorganic physic. And sasori needs this part just for controlling chakra as chiyo stated, not for anything else. Also Sasori's flesh is sealed inside his core, which makes it more safe. and sasori's body is shown to be empty [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3 & Link 4 & Link 5] and it's stated that he only had a flesh inside his core and nothing more in previous scans. Also he hasn't blood, it's just a purple liquid [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3 & Link 4 & Link 5 & Link 6])
• Likely Self-Sustenance (type 1) (due to higher scans, sasori doesn't have organs like lungs, so he doesn't need to breath)

Zetsu

This is the image and it has been translated by the vsb translators
Translation:

The body of the White Zetsu having neither a fixed appearance or smell, can be dyed into any color. Not only his appearance but even his chakra can transform at will, making his "transformation" indistinguishable even to skilled ninjas. He used this power to cause chaos within the Allied Shinobi Forces during the Fourth Great Ninja War.
Transforming into Neji, White Zetsu launches an attack on the Allied Shinobi Forces from the inside. It is impossible to detect this deception even with sensory ninjutsu...

• Information Analysis (Was analysing sasuke and itachi's fight whole time [for example]. Had great analysis on how Sasuke created kirin [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3], and analysed kirin's speed with just one look)
• Resistance to Extrasensory Perception (can't be detected by sensor shinobis)
• Self-Sustenance (type 2) (for white zetsu; in zetsu's profile, it has been only written that black zetsu likely has this ability, while we are sure that white zetsu has this ability)

Pain

• Hive Mind (type 1) (I don't think this needs any explanations)

Spoiler: Not needed

Juugo

• Energy Projection (he is capable of creating Energy Blasts [Link 1 & Link 2])

Obito

• Intangibility (it was weird for me that his original ability is written, but it's not linked in his page as a separate ability)
• Fire Manipulation, Extreme Temperature and Forceshield Creation with Uchiha Kaenjin (its a barrier, and its fire is stated as hellish and so hot that even threats like Tailed Beast Chakra can't touch it and it keeps burning the one who touched it until that person becomes ashes)

I know feats like rock lee's ap are hard to accept, but i try my best. Thank you for the time that you spent on reading this. Sorry for any problems that here has, because this is my first CRT. Anyway i hope you guide me

(Staff only):

Agree: Damage3245, Reiner04 (both are Natural on Lee), DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Natural:

 

[Damage3245]

• Tracking/Homing Attack (He can reach his opponent's location even if he doesn't know where is his opponent's location in advance)

Seems fine.

Soul Destruction (Juubito took Right Hand of Minato & Juubidara took Left Hand of Minato. Tobirama admitted that Minato can't regenerate after that [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3] and we saw that his soul had no hands because of Juubi Jins. This even applies by Deidara as he states that an Edo Tensei can continuously regenerate their physical form as long as their soul remains intact, so when Minato's soul was destroyed in hands' part, his physical Edo body stopped regeneration)

We've already discussed and rejected this many times. We have a Discussion Rule on it.

• Resistance to Pain Manipulation (Sasori stated that he doesn't feel pain and databook applies this)
• Resistance to Empathic Manipulation (he hasn't any feelings, even if his grandmother dies he won't feel a thing)
• Inorganic Physiology (Type 1) (There are many statements that Sasori's Body isn't a Human body and it's a Puppet [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3 (even here it's stated that sasori abondoned his humanity) & Link 4 (it's stated that sasori isn't a human being)] although he has a little flesh of his human part to control his chakra, but this is nothing compared to many characters that have gained this ability like kakuzu, who has a human heart but still accepted as inorganic physic. And sasori needs this part just for controlling chakra as chiyo stated, not for anything else. Also Sasori's flesh is sealed inside his core, which makes it more safe. and sasori's body is shown to be empty [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3 & Link 4 & Link 5] and it's stated that he only had a flesh inside his core and nothing more in previous scans. Also he hasn't blood, it's just a purple liquid [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3 & Link 4 & Link 5 & Link 6])
• Likely Self-Sustenance (type 1) (due to higher scans, sasori doesn't have organs like lungs, so he doesn't need to breath)

This seems fine.

• Information Analysis (Was analysing sasuke and itachi's fight whole time [for example]. Had great analysis on how Sasuke created kirin [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3], and analysed kirin's speed with just one look)
• Resistance to Extrasensory Perception (can't be detected by sensor shinobis)
• Self-Sustenance (type 2) (for white zetsu; in zetsu's profile, it has been only written that black zetsu likely has this ability, while we are sure that white zetsu has this ability)

This is fine.

Energy Projection (he is capable of creating Energy Blasts [Link 1 & Link 2])

Jugo already has this.

Hive Mind (type 1) (I don't think this needs any explanations)

This is fine.

Intangibility (it was weird for me that his original ability is written, but it's not linked in his page as a separate ability)

I believe it isn't linked currently because he's only simulating intangibility.

Fire Manipulation, Durability Negation, Non-Physical Interaction and Forceshield Creation with Uchiha Kaenjin (its a barrier, and its fire is stated as hellish and so hot that even threats like Tailed Beast Chakra can't touch it and it's keep burning the one who touched until that person becomes ashes)

I'm not so sure this is Durability Negation or Non-Phyiscal Interaction but the other abilities seem fine. The "not even Tailed Beast Chakra can touch it" seems to be referring to when Gyuki tried punching it, and Gyuki had a physical form for that.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Hi, as this is my first CRT, there should be some problems, but i've tried my best

Rock Lee

• With sixth gate, His Tier should be upgraded to 6-C, and everything related to his Tier like AP and etc should be upgraded (was able to blitz Edo Madara and cut him in half with only Kyuubi Cloak)

Anime Version for better understanding

Why 6th Gate? Because it's the safest option. We know that first gate upgrades lee's stats by 5 times. But We don't know how much Kyuubi Cloak amps lee so i chose Lee's 6th Gate which is stronger than his Kyuubi Amp.

• 6th Gate Rock Lee Should Have FTL speed (was faster than Juubi Jinchuriki Madara's TSB and threw Hiraishin's Kunai Faster Than Juubidara's TSB)

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Note: If anyone has imgur, please makes the Link 1 to 3 into a same gallery and 4 to 5 into a same gallery because unfortunately i don't have access to imgur

Why FTL? Because it's already accepted that Juubito's TSB is FTL and Juubidara's TSB should be at least Equal with Juubito's TSB speed as Minato admitted that he had greater sage chakra than Juubito

Dan Kato

• Tracking/Homing Attack (He can reach his opponent's location even if he doesn't know where is his opponent's location in advance)

TSB Users

• Soul Destruction (Juubito took Right Hand of Minato & Juubidara took Left Hand of Minato. Tobirama admitted that Minato can't regenerate after that [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3] and we saw that his soul had no hands because of Juubi Jins. This even applies by Deidara as he states that an Edo Tensei can continuously regenerate their physical form as long as their soul remains intact, so when Minato's soul was destroyed in hands' part, his physical Edo body stopped regeneration)

Sasori

• Resistance to Pain Manipulation (Sasori stated that he doesn't feel pain and databook applies this)
• Resistance to Empathic Manipulation (he hasn't any feelings, even if his grandmother dies he won't feel a thing)
• Inorganic Physiology (Type 1) (There are many statements that Sasori's Body isn't a Human body and it's a Puppet [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3 (even here it's stated that sasori abondoned his humanity) & Link 4 (it's stated that sasori isn't a human being)] although he has a little flesh of his human part to control his chakra, but this is nothing compared to many characters that have gained this ability like kakuzu, who has a human heart but still accepted as inorganic physic. And sasori needs this part just for controlling chakra as chiyo stated, not for anything else. Also Sasori's flesh is sealed inside his core, which makes it more safe. and sasori's body is shown to be empty [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3 & Link 4 & Link 5] and it's stated that he only had a flesh inside his core and nothing more in previous scans. Also he hasn't blood, it's just a purple liquid [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3 & Link 4 & Link 5 & Link 6])
• Likely Self-Sustenance (type 1) (due to higher scans, sasori doesn't have organs like lungs, so he doesn't need to breath)

Zetsu

This is the image and it has been translated by the vsb translators
Translation:

• Information Analysis (Was analysing sasuke and itachi's fight whole time [for example]. Had great analysis on how Sasuke created kirin [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3], and analysed kirin's speed with just one look)
• Resistance to Extrasensory Perception (can't be detected by sensor shinobis)
• Self-Sustenance (type 2) (for white zetsu; in zetsu's profile, it has been only written that black zetsu likely has this ability, while we are sure that white zetsu has this ability)

Pain

• Hive Mind (type 1) (I don't think this needs any explanations)

Juugo

• Energy Projection (he is capable of creating Energy Blasts [Link 1 & Link 2])

Obito

• Intangibility (it was weird for me that his original ability is written, but it's not linked in his page as a separate ability)
• Fire Manipulation, Durability Negation, Non-Physical Interaction and Forceshield Creation with Uchiha Kaenjin (its a barrier, and its fire is stated as hellish and so hot that even threats like Tailed Beast Chakra can't touch it and it's keep burning the one who touched until that person becomes ashes)

I know feats like rock lee's ap are hard to accept, but i try my best. Thank you for the time that you spent on reading this. Sorry for any problems that here has, because this is my first CRT. Anyway i hope you guide me

I pretty much share same thoughts as damage for thee abilities. For rock lee's ap what exactly is the justification for him scaling over his kyuubi cloaked self?

 

[KingogKings777]

Agree with everything but the soul manip and lee stuff damage pointed out.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Hi, as this is my first CRT, there should be some problems, but i've tried my best

Rock Lee

• With sixth gate, His Tier should be upgraded to 6-C, and everything related to his Tier like AP and etc should be upgraded (was able to blitz Edo Madara and cut him in half with only Kyuubi Cloak)

Anime Version for better understanding

Why 6th Gate? Because it's the safest option. We know that first gate upgrades lee's stats by 5 times. But We don't know how much Kyuubi Cloak amps lee so i chose Lee's 6th Gate which is stronger than his Kyuubi Amp.

Lee was actually not using any Gates as far as we know at the time. His pupils are still visible so at least he wasn't using the 3rd Gate or higher. He was also almost certainly resolve amped from Neji's death so i think you could say he's at least 6-C, possibly Low 6-B+ via empowerment

• 6th Gate Rock Lee Should Have FTL speed (was faster than Juubi Jinchuriki Madara's TSB and threw Hiraishin's Kunai Faster Than Juubidara's TSB)

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Note: If anyone has imgur, please makes the Link 1 to 3 into a same gallery and 4 to 5 into a same gallery because unfortunately i don't have access to imgur

Why FTL? Because it's already accepted that Juubito's TSB is FTL and Juubidara's TSB should be at least Equal with Juubito's TSB speed as Minato admitted that he had greater sage chakra than Juubito

Is it accepted that Juubito's TSOs are FTL as projectiles? Well either way Madara's TSOs are accepted as scaling to him for now. I don't really agree though considering the inconsistency with its feats. Kakashi matches them after all. I think it'd be better to just say Resolve Amped Lee's faster than Kakashi.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Lee was angry because Neji died and also had Kyuubi chakra amp. It is not possible to prove that the buff given by the 6th Gate is definitely higher than this. But I think a value can be entered into the profile with mental buff. In The Last guidebook, it is stated that Naruto and his friends are stronger than before. We can increase the state of The Last and Boruto period by saying The Last Lee>Rage+Kyuubi cloak Lee.

I agree with everything except the soul destrucion

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

We've already discussed and rejected this many times. We have a Discussion Rule on it.

Forgive me. Im a new user and didn't know this. Now i've read the rules completely

Jugo already has this.

The Problem was from me because although i've checked his profile, i didn't see this

I believe it isn't linked currently because he's only simulating intangibility.

Can't we add him Intangibility (interdimensionally)?

I'm not so sure this is Durability Negation or Non-Phyiscal Interaction but the other abilities seem fine. The "not even Tailed Beast Chakra can touch it" seems to be referring to when Gyuki tried punching it, and Gyuki had a physical form for that.

In the databook its stated that "even the threat of Tailed-Beast chakra can't touch it" that's why i've added NPI

And i've checked that it's stated opposing (resisting in the jp translation) it would turn you into ashes in the databook that i've linked

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Sasori

• Resistance to Pain Manipulation (Sasori stated that he doesn't feel pain and databook applies this)
• Resistance to Empathic Manipulation (he hasn't any feelings, even if his grandmother dies he won't feel a thing)
• Inorganic Physiology (Type 1) (There are many statements that Sasori's Body isn't a Human body and it's a Puppet [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3 (even here it's stated that sasori abondoned his humanity) & Link 4 (it's stated that sasori isn't a human being)] although he has a little flesh of his human part to control his chakra, but this is nothing compared to many characters that have gained this ability like kakuzu, who has a human heart but still accepted as inorganic physic. And sasori needs this part just for controlling chakra as chiyo stated, not for anything else. Also Sasori's flesh is sealed inside his core, which makes it more safe. and sasori's body is shown to be empty [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3 & Link 4 & Link 5] and it's stated that he only had a flesh inside his core and nothing more in previous scans. Also he hasn't blood, it's just a purple liquid [Link 1 & Link 2 & Link 3 & Link 4 & Link 5 & Link 6])
• Likely Self-Sustenance (type 1) (due to higher scans, sasori doesn't have organs like lungs, so he doesn't need to breath)

Looks fine tome

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Lee was actually not using any Gates as far as we know at the time. His pupils are still visible so at least he wasn't using the 3rd Gate or higher. He was also almost certainly resolve amped from Neji's death so i think you could say he's at least 6-C, possibly Low 6-B+ via empowerment

Yeah using under 3 gates makes a green aura around them:
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I think your tiering should be fine. Can we add possible ratings for 6th gate?

Is it accepted that Juubito's TSOs are FTL as projectiles? Well either way Madara's TSOs are accepted as scaling to him for now. I don't really agree though considering the inconsistency with its feats. Kakashi matches them after all. I think it'd be better to just say Resolve Amped Lee's faster than Kakashi.

It's correct but his 6th gate speed being faster than Juubidara's TSB was goal of kishimoto. Throwing a Hiraishin's kunai at that moment wasn't the goal of kishimoto, as we got some direction bugs:
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And i don't really think throwing a kunai is inconsistent. It shouldn't make any differences in Kakashi's profile.

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Lee was angry because Neji died and also had Kyuubi chakra amp. It is not possible to prove that the buff given by the 6th Gate is definitely higher than this. But I think a value can be entered into the profile with mental buff. In The Last guidebook, it is stated that Naruto and his friends are stronger than before. We can increase the state of The Last and Boruto period by saying The Last Lee>Rage+Kyuubi cloak Lee.

Thank you and im agree with your opinion

 

[DavidTPPM]

Iirc we don't scale kyubi cloak feats due to outliers or something on that line?

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Yeah using under 3 gates makes a green aura around them:
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Well either way there's no indication that he used any Gates as the aura is from Naruto

I think your tiering should be fine. Can we add possible ratings for 6th gate?

Can't really prove 6th Gate>Kyuubi cloak

It's correct but his 6th gate speed being faster than Juubidara's TSB was goal of kishimoto. Throwing a Hiraishin's kunai at that moment wasn't the goal of kishimoto, as we got some direction bugs:
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by "the goal?" Also not sure what's odd about the part you highlighted. Lee just jumps up and lands close to the others.

And i don't really think throwing a kunai is inconsistent. It shouldn't make any differences in Kakashi's profile.

Wdym by this? It's just his speed.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Lee was watching guy use 8th gates and lay down his life. That would be the craziest resolve amp he would have had in the series. Explains his bizarre speed for a moment

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Lee was angry because Neji died and also had Kyuubi chakra amp. It is not possible to prove that the buff given by the 6th Gate is definitely higher than this. But I think a value can be entered into the profile with mental buff. In The Last guidebook, it is stated that Naruto and his friends are stronger than before. We can increase the state of The Last and Boruto period by saying The Last Lee>Rage+Kyuubi cloak Lee.

I agree with everything except the soul destrucion

I think this is totally fair.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I don't think becoming stronger means they surpassed their temporarily elevated selves

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Well either way there's no indication that he used any Gates as the aura is from Naruto

Can you tell me how the green aura is from naruto? Even guy was using that before coming for saving KCM Naruto

Can't really prove 6th Gate>Kyuubi cloak

I know i said can we use "possibly 6-C"?

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "the goal?" Also not sure what's odd about the part you highlighted. Lee just jumps up and lands close to the others.

No the Hiraishin kunai's direction was the opposite of Juubidara's TSB, which means kakashi is behind of Guy and Juubidara is in front of guy but when lee saved Guy, he went to another side and on the other side there were Kakashi, Minato and Gaara which is at odd with kunai's diraction

Wdym by this? It's just his speed.

I've completely read the speed, how throwing a kunai would makes his speed FTL? He didn't travel any distances by himself

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Can you tell me how the green aura is from naruto? Even guy was using that before coming for saving KCM Naruto

Which panel are you referring to?

I know i said can we use "possibly 6-C"?

A possibly rating has to have some basis in evidence still

No the Hiraishin kunai's direction was the opposite of Juubidara's TSB, which means kakashi is behind of Guy and Juubidara is in front of guy but when lee saved Guy, he went to another side and on the other side there were Kakashi, Minato and Gaara which is at odd with kunai's diraction

Or he just jumped rightward and the angle is weird. I also don't see how it potentially being inconsistently drawn counters the feat Kakashi performed at all

I've completely read the speed, how throwing a kunai would makes his speed FTL? He didn't travel any distances by himself

It's part of his combat speed

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Lee was watching guy use 8th gates and lay down his life. That would be the craziest resolve amp he would have had in the series. Explains his bizarre speed for a moment

The 8 Gates is just more justification. Our original discussion is Rock lee being faster than Juubidara's TSB

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Which panel are you referring to?

Im talking about the green aura

A possibly rating has to have some basis in evidence still

Aren't they comparable? First gate amps his stats by 5 times. And 6th gate is far stronger than it. Aren't all these power ups relative to a Kyuubi amp?

Or he just just jumped rightward and the angle is weird. I also don't see how it potentially being inconsistently drawn counters the feat Kakashi performed at all

It means that Kishi wasn't trying to makes a slfeat for Kakashi, he was focusing on lee

It's part of his combat speed

By the bugs, it isn't a valid feat i believe

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Im talking about the green aura

I'm asking in which moment you mean. I'm pretty sure you were referring to this scene, where his aura is a result of the Kyuubi cloak.

Aren't they comparable? First gate amps his stats by 5 times. And 6th gate is far stronger than it. Aren't all these power ups relative to a Kyuubi amp?

Can't be proven

It means that Kishi wasn't trying to makes a slfeat for Kakashi, he was focusing on lee

That logic is very wishy washy. And the focus of a scene doesn't take away feats performed by less important characters at all anyways.

By the bugs, it isn't a valid feat i believe

What does this mean?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I definitely agree

 

[Damage3245]

Can't we add him Intangibility (interdimensionally)?

Since Spatial Intangibility is listed as a sub-type, it should be fine to fully add in Intangibility.

In the databook its stated that "even the threat of Tailed-Beast chakra can't touch it" that's why i've added NPI

And i've checked that it's stated opposing (resisting in the jp translation) it would turn you into ashes in the databook that i've linked

I don't think that necessary means NPI. And does burning people so that they turn to ash actually count as Durability Negation? Gyuki wasn't turned to ash when he touched it.

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Since Spatial Intangibility is listed as a sub-type, it should be fine to fully add in Intangibility.

Oh very Thank You

I don't think that necessary means NPI. And does burning people so that they turn to ash actually count as Durability Negation? Gyuki wasn't turned to ash when he touched it.

I've checked 3 characters that gained this ability by turning their opponent into ashes
Even i think amaterasu had a statement like this
And Gyuki has regeneration, at least a limited regen. As we know that gyuki can regen his tails after being chopped off or burned, and can heal from the damage that is dealt to his body upon entering Tailed Beast State, which peels off his skin, he shouldn't have any problems at regenerating part of his hand. Because manga never showed us how Gyuki's hand freed from its flame, and due to databook's statement and Gyuki's regeneration, i think he cut and regenerated his hand. Although we only have regeneration feat from his tails, but one of his regen feats was regenerating from burning by amaterasu, which shows us most likely he done what i said. He even said you made me to sacrifice my limbs, although it's refers to tails here, but we cannot ignore that hands are still considered as limbs and by gyuki's words we can find a possibility that he was able to regen his hands because he said he can regenerate his lost limbs, which should help to this fact that he regenerated his hand that got caught by obito's flame

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

I'm asking in which moment you mean. I'm pretty sure you were referring to this scene, where his aura is a result of the Kyuubi cloak.

Actually im saying that he wasn't using any gates at that moment because when he uses any gates below 3rd gate, he gains a green aura as i showed in previous scans

Can't be proven

That logic is very wishy washy. And the focus of a scene doesn't take away feats performed by less important characters at all anyways.

I explained why it's invalid, but seems like its ineffective still
Do you know the weight of Hiraishin's kunai? It's definitely different/lighter than a regular kunai as Hiraishin is used for the speed. And Kakashi threw Hiraishin which kept up with Juubidara's TSB. Did you see any other of his moves at this level? It's definitely no. So Kakashi only with Hiraishin can gain this not his combat speed
His regular kunai throwing has countless anti-feats, but his Hiraishin throwing has keeping up with TSB feat which shows us that its different with Kakashi's real combat speed and kakashi only with Hiraishin could do this

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

I've changed the OP because of FTL TSB isn't available anymore, and another little change

I'm happy to hear your opinion about that

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I'm fine with Sub-Relativistic

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

I'm fine with Sub-Relativistic

Sounds Good my friend !

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Bump
Should i wait until new speed revision get accepted?

 

[DavidTPPM]

In The Last guidebook, it is stated that Naruto and his friends are stronger than before. We can increase the state of The Last and Boruto period by saying The Last Lee>Rage+Kyuubi cloak Lee.

Wouldn't that line of thinking also upscale literally everyone else above their kyubi amp versions?

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Wouldn't that line of thinking also upscale literally everyone else above their kyubi amp versions?

That's how I interpret it

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Bump
Should i wait until new speed revision get accepted?

What speed revision? The Kirin recalc one?

 

[DavidTPPM]

That's how I interpret it

So that means 6-C possibly 6-B Hinata

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I don't think the statements saying they're stronger than at any previous point in their life

 

[DavidTPPM]

I don't think the statements saying they're stronger than at any previous point in their life

Nah trust frfr, I'll now reshape my entire belief system around this Japanese guidebook I've never seen before

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

What speed revision? The Kirin recalc one?

Post in thread 'Simple Naruto speed upgrade'

Feb 6, 2025

This should be pretty straightforward

• karo_senpaii

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[MinatoSparkle]

Maybe waiting would be good

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Due to the new Naruto's speed that got applied, i think we can evaluate this now

 

[MinatoSparkle]

At least Relativistic is fine both via being more than 5x above his base and his feats

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Yes i think the only arguable option that is left would be lee's AP
If most of users or staffs aren't agree with the ap, what should be his ap?
If they are agree, that's ok

 

[MinatoSparkle]

High 7-A via being dozens of times above his base