Sonic (Sonic Boom) vs Timebreaker (Miraculous Ladybug)

[Monkey_Dunno]

So, lemme get something straight here: Sonic can't one-shot, and Bunnyx can skill skillmatch long enough to touch.

The point that is being made above it‘s that it's more likely for Timebreaker to tag Sonic that there is for Sonic to defeat her before that can happen. Pointing the most reliable wincon is not saying that Sonic lacks of options to pull a win. This is as invalidating any Thanos (Just for an example) win that relies on him snapping.

Why the hell did he even get it anyways? How does he even have foreknowledge? Foreknowledge should never be given unless there's an actual reason to give it.

The knowledge that a character possesses depends on the OP. And it's valid as long as it doesn’t turns on an spite thread. The only reason most of characters in versus matches lack of knowledge is because it goes unspecified and it's an Standard Battle Assumption.

 

[Lightbuster30]

The point that is being made above it‘s that it's more likely for Timebreaker to tag Sonic that there is for Sonic to defeat her before that can happen.

My point exactly. He needs to land countless blows on her in cqc while she only needs one touch, all while she herself is very skilled in cqc herself through scaling. There's a fine line between "unlikely" and straight-up not possible.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

He do have the knowledge to avoid her touch, but she can reliably touch him more often than he could win

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

He needs to land countless blows

Doubt "countless" is the word you’re looking for. No same tier match requieres that at all.

Sonic has an AP advantage and a foreknowledge to work with, saying that he's unable to pull not even a 1/10 is either silly or dishonest.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Doubt "countless" is the word you’re looking for. No same tier match requieres that at all.

Sonic has an AP advantage and a foreknowledge to work with, saying that he's unable to pull not even a 1/10 is either silly or dishonest.

Not meant literally.

It's exactly 1.17x. That's almost nothing. Foreknowledge only means he knows not to let himself get touched. It won't save him from being out skilled or save him from lucky grabs. If he has to engage in cqc, he doesn't have any choice but to put himself at risk.

 

[SuperStar]

Doubt "countless" is the word you’re looking for. No same tier match requieres that at all.

Sonic has an AP advantage and a foreknowledge to work with, saying that he's unable to pull not even a 1/10 is either silly or dishonest.

An AP advantage and prior knowledge is meaningless when you can get killed with just a touch. The advantage isn't worth notable at all

 

[Lightbuster30]

Okay, wait, just noticed, his standard equipment is a wrist communicator which lets him access fire and ice forms, as well as energy whips. Ice form seems to instantly freeze on contact, so it sounds like ice could incapacitate, not sure about fire.

Is an incon possible if he uses his ice form? He doesn't need to land a punch, just get in cqc range.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

It's exactly 1.17x

Not exactly, a higher one by an unquantifiable amount. He wouldn’t even be Town level+ if he was exactly 1.17 times stronger than Timebreaker.

It won't save him from being out skilled

Who said he would be outskilled? You went from her being even to her outright outskilling. Granted, I don’t know how skilled is this Sonic, but something here doesn’t adds up.

 

[SuperStar]

• Ice Mode: Sonic can cloak himself in a breezing blue aura. When in effect, anything he comes in contact with is then frozen solid. Frozen enemies become so brittle that their bodies shatter seconds after being frozen. His cold is capable of instantly freezing large blocks of water into ice.

It could work

 

[Lightbuster30]

Who said he would be outskilled? You went from her being even to her outright outskilling. Granted, I don’t know how skilled is this Sonic, but something here doesn’t

Out skilled over time is what I mean. Since a touch would very easily happen when two people are even or close to each other in combat skills start fighting. Add the ability to EE on said touch, and that's what I meant by out skilled. Bad wording in hindsight.

 

[Lightbuster30]

• Ice Mode: Sonic can cloak himself in a breezing blue aura. When in effect, anything he comes in contact with is then frozen solid. Frozen enemies become so brittle that their bodies shatter seconds after being frozen. His cold is capable of instantly freezing large blocks of water into ice.

It could work

Then I'm picking incon. Sonic goes for ice mode, and Nyx touches him only to get frozen at the same time she touches/EEs him, then shatters.

 

[TauanVictor]

Yeah, Incon FRA.

 

[Kflare63]

I'm going to switch my vote to incon fra

 

[SuperStar]

incon fra