Superman vs Rogal Dorn. I HAVE DONE THE WILL OF CHAOS!

[DaReaperMan]

I care enough to put pictures in!

Lex Luthor was sent through the Lexcorp tower, his Warsuit badly damaged, while the area of the city was already in ruins due to a somewhat fierce battle. Rogal Dorn stepped toward the now injured Luthor but before he could get to him Superman landed in his way "You've demolished the city enough, and he is beaten!" "The city will be refortified." "If this fight continues there won't be a city to refortify!" "I disagree." "I will remove you from Metropolis if you continue down this warpath!" "No you will not." Superman took a breath in and prepared to fight the 8'10 behemoth in power armor.

speed equalized

battle takes place in Metropolis

they start 50 meters apart

Superman: 0

Rogal Dorn.: 0

Lex gets his shit together and whoops both their asses: 0

 

[Garchomp777]

Whats the ap for rogal dorn

 

[DaReaperMan]

Whats the ap for rogal dorn

3.5 Gigafoe

 

[DaReaperMan]

if i recall Superman upscales from 600 Kilofoe so Dorn has a big AP advantage

 

[Garchomp777]

He usually starts with heat vision and frost breath when willing to kill, or phasing. He uses BFR at the beginning if he knows they have good regen. But sometimes he starts with normal punches

 

[DaReaperMan]

yeah... Superman needs to BFR because he is not hitting Rogal Dorn with anything ranged due to the ladders skill, Dorn has more then enough non-physical interaction to beat Supes when he is phasing, and considering Dorn is a Warhammer character I don't think I need to comment on just how skilled he is, but i aint no Warhammer expert either so yeh

 

[deonment]

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

if i recall Superman upscales from 600 Kilofoe so Dorn has a big AP advantage

Supes is 1.8 kilofoe

 

[DaReaperMan]

Supes is 1.8 kilofoe

Isn't there a 600 Kilofoe DC calc for post-crisis?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Isn't there a 600 Kilofoe DC calc for post-crisis?

was discarded and now we use a 1.8 kilofoe calc, either way, Dorn One-shot with a punch

 

[DaReaperMan]

was discarded and now we use a 1.8 kilofoe calc, either way, Dorn One-shot with a punch

So they both practically win with a punch, Superman lands a punch at all, that probably sends Dorn to orbit, which im pretty sure he can't get back from for Supes's wincon, and Dorn has a ridiculous AP advantage for his wincon

 

[Garchomp777]

Superman would probably survive and regen from it after getting knocked out, he has done that from stronger attacks and usually he would start with hax if he knows his opponent is strong. What kind of skill does dorn have? Superman has enough skill to adapt to an infinitely programmable armour, is equally as skilled as wonder woman who is more skilled than ares who has all martial arts from beginning till end of time and many more

 

[DaReaperMan]

Superman would probably survive and regen from it after getting knocked out, he has done that from stronger attacks and usually he would start with hax if he knows his opponent is strong. What kind of skill does dorn have? Superman has enough skill to adapt to an infinitely programmable armour, is equally as skilled as wonder woman who is more skilled than ares who has all martial arts from beginning till end of time and many more

You realize that this is the difference of a low-end low 7-C facing a High 7-A+ in terms of AP right? Supes isn't surviving a hit from dorn, but I do realize as i remember Superman having a match with Kharn that this is very similar: Supes needs to BFR to win, and Dorn kills in one hit

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Yeah, you don't get "knocked out" by a 600x AP difference. 7.5x is the difference needed to one-shot around here, generally.

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

The difference isn't 600, it's 1944444.44444

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Even worse. Clark won't get one-shot, he'll get obliterated.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Even worse. Clark won't get one-shot, he'll get obliterated.

Similar to Supes vs Kharn, I forgot that match existed as I was making this honestly, im pretty sure supes has a decisive loss against every primarch not named Magnus or Roboute Guilliman

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Honestly, not sure why Kharn vs Supes is still there, Kharn has a massive ap advantage, all of supes stuff is negged, and Supes would get utterly destroyed before he can do anything, the only way to make it fair is by making Supes bloodlusted

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Honestly, not sure why Kharn vs Supes is still there, Kharn has a massive ap advantage, all of supes stuff is negged, and Supes would get utterly destroyed before he can do anything, the only way to make it fair is by making Supes bloodlusted

Even then, Supes would probably go for phasing or something, not realizing its been nulled. You should request it get removed.

 

[Garchomp777]

Superman can somehow survive galaxy level stuff but not tank it, though im not sure if that counts as outlier here since it wouldn't really scale to durability but stamina

If its 600x then superman should lose

 

[Planck69]

That's an outlier.

This is an almost 2,000,000x difference. Rogal breathes.

 

[Garchomp777]

That's an outlier.

This is an almost 2,000,000x difference. Rogal breathes.

Is surviving but not tanking higher stuff outliers? And superman sometimes starts with frost breath and heat vision if willing to kill

 

[The_Wright_Way]

A 4-B surviving a 3-C hit like what you're describing is a textbook outlier, yes.

 

[Planck69]

Is surviving but not tanking higher stuff outliers? And superman sometimes starts with frost breath and heat vision if willing to kill

Yes, it is.

 

[Garchomp777]

I thought surviving stuff but getting easily one shot and KOed to near death didn't count as durability here

 

[DaReaperMan]

bump.

 

[Shmooply]

jeez, even dorn doesnt have space marine physiology on his profile...

 

[DaReaperMan]

jeez, even dorn doesnt have space marine physiology on his profile...

Should I just put that in?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Screw it, I put it in

 

[Shmooply]

I don't think anybody would find it controversial, since it is from an already accepted CRT.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Several instances of Dorn massively upscaling from his genesons on the profile so I just did it lol, with an apt description

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Stomp. Closing.